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joined Oct 6, 2015

Shiho's back story is nice but please don't let Miwa cheat or anything. Saeko and Miwa are trying their best on "how to relationship". I wanna follow their journey so bad.

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joined Apr 16, 2012

The old unrequited love that comes to regret, but it's too late...

Maybe they'd be a better matched couple than the main.

I mean, I'm not even sure Saeko and Miwa love each other. They are just in it because "why not?"

Give Love A Chance!

I completely agree with u,
We shall see what will happen

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joined May 2, 2018

Are those Shiho's thoughts from page 15 on?

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joined Aug 10, 2015

Shiho's back story is nice but please don't let Miwa cheat or anything. Saeko and Miwa are trying their best on "how to relationship". I wanna follow their journey so bad.

Same, I really hope it doesn't go that route.

joined Apr 5, 2020

Homegirl shiho bout to get NTRed

joined Nov 23, 2018

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

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joined Oct 28, 2016

Dang, shiho's backstory is really, REALLY well presented. Overbearing family relations can really grate on you, even if they're not as upfront like in Shiho's case. Physical distance would be the best, otherwise compromise and slowly(with lots of trial and error, and looots of breakdowns from both sides and an external support web) building back relationships would be the way to go.

joined Jun 17, 2018

I sWEAR, THIS MANGA NEEDS ITS OWN ANIME ADAPTION

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joined Dec 23, 2014

Does anyone know where to read this raw? I'm addicted.

I actually just went down a terrible hole trying to find raws of the next chapter lol. The official website for the comic this series runs in only has the first three chapters and the last two chapters (44 and 45 at this point which are past volume 4). Apparently you can buy an electronic version of the volumes (our next English chapter, 26, is in volume 3) but since my IP isn't in Japan, it won't let me buy it lol.

So the short answer is, not for this point in the story as far as I can tell without using a VPN lol. Someone else might know though?

From what I could gather from the website where you could buy the raws electronically tho some stuff goes down. Idk how to use spoiler tags or else I'd say what happens ahaha sorry

Edit: Okay, not quite the same, but physicals can be purchased on Japanese Amazon! https://urasunday.com/title/603 I think that link should work. The comics cost less than the shipping lol but I bought Swap Swap this way and it was great

Thank you!

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joined Feb 15, 2019

NGL I'm kinda rooting for ShihoxMiwa.

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joined Mar 23, 2019

Oh great, my stomach is knots now.

I remember this used to be a fun exploration of college life and dating with band bonding. Hopefully Miwa doesn't cheat, that will absolutely destroy Saeko. As we've already seen Saeko's ego is akin to a glass house.

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joined Mar 4, 2018

Ask not for whom the bell tolls....

Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

Oh man I actually really like Shiho and I kinda want her and Miwa to work out (they're cute), but I also want Saeko and Miwa to work out because they've been working so hard on figuring out their relationship.

....If Saeko/Miwa end up like the one-shot, senpai would make a nice rebound HAHA

Ofc if Shiho and Miwa were to happen though, it shouldn't be immediately and Shiho would need to put in a lot of work to make up for those 2 years of ghosting. I hope at the very least they can talk it out and become friends again, but also acknowledge that Shiho did a shitty thing and shouldn't be completely forgiven so easily.

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joined Feb 18, 2015

Well, even if Shiho stops ghosting her, that doesn't change the fact that she's not going to be living anywhere near where Miwa lives. Miwa should at least tell Shiho that she's in a relationship so she doesn't try something thinking that Miwa is available and end up causing Miwa all kinds of angst because she was kissed by another girl, of course, would have to tell Saeko about it because the guilt would eat away at her. That would also make it very clear to Shiho what Miwa's feelings were back in high school... or at least it should...

Miwa: "I guess I need to tell you... I am in a relationship right now."
Shiho: "But you said you don't have a boyfriend?"
Miwa: "Yeah... I don't have a boyfriend... but I am dating someone... in a committed relationship... I am someone's girlfriend..."
Shiho: "OH... Then you have a ... Oh...." [Man... I really messed up back in high school, didn't I!]

Murcielago_reiko
joined Dec 9, 2019

I sWEAR, THIS MANGA NEEDS ITS OWN ANIME ADAPTION

IKR!

Utenaanthy01
joined Aug 4, 2018

Yeah I dunno
I mean it was nice getting Shiho's perspective and I sympathize with her a lot but like...
It's been two years of no contact and you suddenly show up out of thin air and want things to just go back to the way things were
Like I think that's the definition of too little too late
Miwa and Saeko's relationship is no bed of daises but I want them to stay together and actually confront their fears and be honest with each other for once.

I'm with you with that one

Me three.

but people will probably prefer Shiho because "it's more healthy". ANd like, my memories thought they were ex but literally nothing happen. No confession, no kiss, no nothing. Just a "you're special to me" with no real value. Then comeback 2 years later when nothing happen because that's how it is. Nothing happen between them during the 2 years, Shiho never contact her or anything. Also nobody said that their relation will have work better than Saeko/Miwa now.

Seriously! We don't know shit about Shiho. What kind of person is she right now? How does she identify? What kind of people has she been dating in Okinawa? Girls? Boys? A bit of everything? We don't know. We don't even know what she means by "face her feelings for Miwa" or what kind of answer she expects from Miwa rn. And those two years of ghosting... uugh.
Frankly, I hope this arc is over soon -- so that the focus returns to Miwa and Saeko, and they can keep working at their relationship.

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joined Aug 16, 2018

I sWEAR, THIS MANGA NEEDS ITS OWN ANIME ADAPTION

IKR!

It's not an art style that is easily animated, tho.

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joined Mar 24, 2015

I like Shiho alot and honestly Shiho>Saeko, but I think ShihoxMiwa has passed. It would had been sweet if they got together in highschool, but they haven't talked in so long and that means that both girls have grown so much in that gap that maybe their not really compatible anymore. It's the one that got away y'all

I see this to an extent but I don't think Shiho would have been a good partner back then. Her crazy parents and sister, never getting to go out. And she probably panicked about being gay too based on her reaction when she thinks about kissing Miwa.

Shiho mentions that bit at the end "I could only talk to you now" so I think she needed that time away and needed that gap. And now Miwa is at the point where she's finally saying what she's thinking, especially when she called out Shiho. So I think they could work!

Honestly I hope Miwa forgives her. I assumed her first love was gonna be some shitty girl who strung her along. Then to see that she was such a caring and charismatic senpai... swoon~

Ihstarresi
joined Jun 22, 2018

friendship ended with saekomiwa
shihomiwa is my new ship

joined Sep 13, 2020

Dammmn people really do switch fast. I'm kind of sad that people are suddenly rooting for Shiho and Miwa. I mean, there's only been a few chapters so far about her? She still feels like a stranger to me. Huhu I kind of began caring about Saeko and Miwa and their relationship as the chapters increased.

But I do know it's not Miwa's job to fix her and that Miwa deserves a healthy relationship. Anyway, I hope Miwa tells Saeko about Shiho, but for some reason, I think Saeko's gonna pull the "I'm not jealous" card again.

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joined Aug 15, 2019

Yo, do you guys think Miwa's mom is homophobic? Cuz on page 8, Miwa explained on how her mom rejected an important part of her, and how she was really hurt by it.

Yuu
joined Mar 28, 2015

J005812 posted:

Yo, do you guys think Miwa's mom is homophobic? Cuz on page 8, Miwa explained on how her mom rejected an important part of her, and how she was really hurt by it.

She's referring to when her mom criticized T.V. for showing women kissing.

Miwa's mom is just as homophobic as any average mom raised traditionally. All her life, she was told that gay people are abnormal people and she's a million miles away from thinking she could have raised someone like that.

Yuu
joined Mar 28, 2015

Ater posted:

Dammmn people really do switch fast. I'm kind of sad that people are suddenly rooting for Shiho and Miwa. I mean, there's only been a few chapters so far about her? She still feels like a stranger to me. Huhu I kind of began caring about Saeko and Miwa and their relationship as the chapters increased.

But I do know it's not Miwa's job to fix her and that Miwa deserves a healthy relationship. Anyway, I hope Miwa tells Saeko about Shiho, but for some reason, I think Saeko's gonna pull the "I'm not jealous" card again.

Well, the thing is that Miwa was really in love with Shiho. And Shiho as far as I understand, realized, too late, that she had feelings for Miwa too.

It happens : the timing was bad, they were young and there were family issues. So the serendipity was lost.

Now, there's a chance to repair that (but it probably won't happen).

But I wouldn't be disatisfied if it happened (in an honest way, no cheating), because the relationship of Miwa and Saeko (in this timeline) is fraught with misplaced expectations, misunderstandings, lies and compromises. It hangs by a thread. Saeko seems to be more moved by lust than by love and Miwa seems to be more moved by just being in a relationship than by love. They are trying hard, true. But you end up wondering if it's worth it to spend that much efforts to make it work.

But I agree that we don't know how a Miwa x Shiho relationship would work.

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joined Oct 20, 2017

lets gooo oo o

joined Jul 26, 2019

An unacknowledged double first love can make you think, upset a situation that seemed frozen especially knowing that the two loved each other but could not admit it to each other more the drama caused by the parents ...
No one has known an unspeakable youthful love and imagine that the girl goes back for years to say that she was finally in love and that she finally found the courage to come back to make her declaration? it would be very, very hard to resist and not to think about it day and night ...

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