because i am a defective freak the way i'm hoping this will go is momiji becomes a girl forever, where ao's willpower overwhelms kouyou. disappear for us, kouyou. make way for momiji

(the pessimist in me is not so confident)

There's nothing weird about rooting for that outcome, against all odds. A story where a boy pretends to be a girl as a means to an end is begging for an ironic outcome, and what could be a more poetic irony than the fake girl becoming real? Mainstream media is full of those kind of plots, especially in romance. Fake dating inevitably becomes real, and people love that and view it as beautiful. But somehow a fake girl can't become real, in fact the very idea is too silly to consider? It makes perfect sense to call that bullshit.

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The outrage on yuritwt was caused by Manga Mogure rage baiting with sneaking "yuri(?)" into their description of the series. The creators did not try to sell this series as yuri; in all official communication this was just a romcom, and at most crossdressing was mentioned.

As for removing the series from Dynasty, the people of yuritwt wouldn't be placated by that since most of them are not regulars here.

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There should be a "hold your partner like a game pad" challenge if there isn't one yet

Also, didn't something like this happen in Sasameki Koto?

IIRC there was a crossdressing boy in the anime; I forget why.

Yes, the protagonist of that series is a tomboy (Sumika), and she has a male classmate (Masaki) who adopts a girl alter ego to appeal to her tastes. The main difference is that Sumika starts that series already pining for her lesbian girl bestie, Ushio, so Masaki is somewhat of a loser heroine. He's also a more shy and quiet type, with no history of being mean to Sumika. He makes for such a pretty girl that her alter ego is hired to model for fashion magazines for a while, and ends up briefly catching Ushio's attention.

I might be one of the few people who liked that arc? The main weakness of it was that a bit too much of the shenanigans hinged on Masaki's younger sister. On the other hand, the fact that most of the (cis) girls in that series were so messy probably helped make Masaki stand out with his gentle demeanor (both in boy and girl mode).

Huh, maybe the creators of this series should have also surrounded the title character with a gaggle of messy, card carrying lesbians. They still have time to course correct...

They're already sleeping in the same bed as if it's normal!

I know it's probably better for Yuri if she doesn't get in another relationship for a while but jeezus the way she's thinking about Atsuko here... I'm gonna be sick

I'm surprised by how relieved I was that they didn't go through with it.

Also, Mai ends up clinging to Rinon without holding on to the railing? That was really risky but maybe that makes it harder to deny for Rinon that Mai wasn't just scared for herself, even though she had every reason to prioritize her own safety

Momiji is a pretty name. I won't say anything else because I don't want to get in trouble

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I mean it's exactly what I would expect from Takeda Ayano honestly, she clearly has the proclivity for this kind of stories.

the way Kumiko thought about and acted around some of her female bandmates was not that far off from this

I wonder if Hikaru will realize that her dilemma is pretty similar to "but we're both girls". Even though Misono knows her secret and in practical terms doesn't treat her as a boy.

From what I gather, it's unclear why Astora divulged that one detail (i.e., nobody has survived attempting the final boss) to Nana and kept it from Luliam.

Also, I actually like the idea of Luliam and Nana scheming behind each other's back...

Sorawo is so cute when she's sulking about how much Toriko fusses over her

When did the story say Toriko's moms have died? I only remember her mentioning them once, and how she was originally from Canada(?). So I assumed they were living there and Toriko came to Japan to study.

Kozakura mentions it first in File 4. But Sorawo doesn't realize that Toriko had two mothers until much later in File 9.

I feel like this arc went by a bit too quickly, but that's my only note. If that sounds like I want Igarashi to prolong my suffering, well...

Genre tags are decided by the publisher, I think. Maybe Kuzushiro's works aren't marketed as yuri because they don't focus on romance. Maybe the fact the most of the relationships start as platonic and only become romantic later as the characters come to know each other make not "romance". Which you would think is normal, but I guess in the majority of the romance genre the main pairing is expected to be set up since the beggining.

The Moon on a Rainy Night is different though, like when a series with similar pacing and speed of 'progress' is straight, people just call it romance. It's only unusual by yuri manga standards because it's way longer than what we can usually expect.

Damn, Mocchi has her work cut out for her. Amano has what looks to be a working adult in her rotation, and Mashiro also seems to be older, possibly a college student now.

And I don't remember if it's already been confirmed that Amano remembers Mocchi, but based on her narration in the bathtub I think she does remember.

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she is never getting over sui-chan. im also kinda curious what will mizuki think when she finds out abt ren's employment as a rent a gf. she seems like the type to not be flexible yk

Yeah also the thing she said about guys only caring about their own pleasure but that's what she did just now lol

Mizuki seems a bit spoiled but I don't think that really compares to what she says about the men she's dated

Eru is a little shit but still not as big of a loser as looksmaxxers

We know of a cluster of sensations and emotions that are alleviated when trans people transition, which is commonly summarized as gender dysphoria, and gender euphoria, a related "opposite" cluster that is brought about by transition. And the evidence is at this point overwhelming, that no incentive or benefit (financial, romantic, etc.) can compare to these. Which contradicts you saying that, as a cis man, having to live as a woman would be a mere inconvenience for you that you'd just power through for the right reward.

What we actually know is that some people feel dysphoria, and euphoria on transition. That does not mean that every non-trans person would feel dysphoria if they magically transitioned. Genderfluidity exists, and what some dub "gendercasual".

Quite a bunch of people think that they wouldn't care much if they woke up as the opposite sex, without feeling any urge to actually explore it in reality. Whether they're correct or not is untestable, since we can't do scenarios like the manga's.

I addressed that in my next paragraph. I never said gender-fluidity was not real. I was trying to criticize the framework the person I quoted was using to speculate about the main character's gender.

If a boy suffers zero psychological stress from "pretending" to be a girl, for the rest of his life, then how does his gender identity affect anything? "I'm a cis man and I wouldn't care" is only a partial answer. What about other cis men, are most of them gender-fluid or gender-agnostic? And if they are, what does that say about the concept of cisness, about gender identity?

If there are cis men in our world who only identify as such only due to inertia, just going with the flow, then why not the inverse of this? If Yuuri ends up going with the flow, accepting his new life where people treat him as a girl, what will be the distinction between him and a cis girl who is also just going with the flow?

I know some (a lot of?) people get uncomfortable when the discussion gets deeper than the surface level ("what if magical sex-reassignment in real life"), and that's why I'm trying to push on the weak points of the arguments I see.

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I was pleasantly surprised that they made some efforts to fix the damage in the neighborhood after the shootout.

I like that the demo androids held the same dispassionate look on their faces throughout the fight, and then after they were reprogrammed. It's pretty unnerving, even more so with that panel where they were lying on the ground broken and dismembered. It provides a nice counterpoint to the flirting and goofing around.

Note that the word "terf" implies the subject is at least a self-proclaimed feminist (shrug)

And Kyouko is at least consistent and makes no exceptions. Terfs and fellow travelers might have grievances against certain men, but they will are happy to ally with "good" men in the war on trans people and specifically trans women.

I wonder if it's going to end up with something like Kyouko falling in love with Yuuri, because he's a boy in a girl's body. It's a perfect solution for a hetosexual girl with a severe case of androphobia.
I think that might piss a lot of people off, but not me. I'm actually intrigued by the idea. I would like to see more manga play around with biological sex and gender identity. Characters like Yamato from One Piece fascinate me.

Are you really sure about that?

Alright then, let's make a bet. If it turns out to be yuri, I win. If it turns out to be heterosexual, you win.

It'll be interesting to see which one of us ends up being right, hehe.

I'm not sure you understand what I'm saying. It's simple Kyouko falls in love with yuuri, because he is a guy in a non-guy package. Yuuri remains in a girl's body, to not frighten Kyouko. Yuuri and Kyouko will live happy ever after. It is totally a yuri ending. Well from a certain point of veiw.

Nah, there are a lot of things you're wrong about, but I'm not going to argue with you over them. I could easily prove my point, but it's more fun to turn it into a bet instead, hehe.

Okay how wrong can I be? I can only see three likely endings

1. Yuuri uses his girl form to cure Kyouko of her androphobia then turns back into a boy. Kyouko falls in love with him. Hetero happy ending.

2. Yuuri starts to identify as a girl. Kyouko falls in love with her. A happy yuri ending.

3. Yuuri stays a girl but never stops identifying as a boy. Kyouko falls in love with them. Happy yuri ending, from a certain point of view.

Now I know there can be tons of other endings. Like Yuuri starts identifying as a girl. Becomes best gal pals with Kyouko, and then falls in love when she discovers boys. But it's almost certainly one of the three. You want to bet them my money is spread evenly between possibility 2 and 3, based on the things I read in the comments.

As much as I and I assume many other readers would love to see it, a scene where Yuuri just turns to the camera and says "I am transgender and want to be a girl." is never going to happen in a somewhat light-hearted manga like this, but the same goes for option 3. Much like with many of the other gender bender manga out there, the mc's gender is probably just going to be left vague and up to the reader's interpretation. Automatically flocking to the interpretation that it's "het in a non-het package" because of it is insulting to the original work and other interpretations. This might just be my opinion as a trans woman, but no living cis guy would ever choose to remain in a wrong-gendered body just for a crush. If Yuuri does ultimately choose to stay as a girl, a queer reading is unavoidable.

I agree that Yuuri's gender identity will probably be left vague. I kind of placed that possibility under ending number 2, because that's how I would interprate it.
Although Yuuri is bringing his gender identity to the forefront by having guilt over lying to Kyouko about being a girl, even though he is in a girl's body. It shows he still idinifies as a boy.I kind of want Kyouko to start to push Yuuri into identifying as a girl so she can remain friends with him
I think your wrong about no cis man would give up identifying as a man, for a woman. I'm a cis man, but I have no loyalty to my gender. The way I feel is I'm a man only because I was born male, if I magically woke up in a female body tomorrow I would just try to learn to be a woman. I'm sure it would suck for a while but I think I would eventually get use to it And if a woman I loved was rooting for me to be a woman. I think it might end up being an incentive to push me along.

Your hypothetical isn't unassailable, even if it's impossible to test directly, because trans people do exist. We know of a cluster of sensations and emotions that are alleviated when trans people transition, which is commonly summarized as gender dysphoria, and gender euphoria, a related "opposite" cluster that is brought about by transition. And the evidence is at this point overwhelming, that no incentive or benefit (financial, romantic, etc.) can compare to these. Which contradicts you saying that, as a cis man, having to live as a woman would be a mere inconvenience for you that you'd just power through for the right reward.

Maybe the real stakes of gender (as identity, as embodiment, as a social experience) make you uncomfortable as a cis person and you don't want to think about them seriously. But if it's not that, then assuming that you're not an outlier example of a cis person, the gender identity of cis people in general is so malleable as to destabilize the notion of cisness as anything more than a social construct.

And if you believe that gender identity has such low stakes, I don't understand why you would talk about Yuuri as "a boy in a girl package". Following your logic to its conclusion, if Yuuri can just "get used to" living as a girl to be around Kyouko, if being torn away from her past life as a boy takes no toll on her mental health, then any internal male identification that might remain ceases to affect reality. At that point, Yuuri is just a girl, with memories of a life lived as a boy and some associated habits, traumas, reflexes etc. that she can start to heal from.

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I also find the idea that the yuri genre as a whole is overindulgent in things like physical lesbian intimacy, unequal power dynamics... Not very consistent with my observations.

Yuri is already a small niche compared to BL, positively tiny compared to straight romance, so I think it's unfair to scold the yuri genre for indulging its audience's thirst as much as its competitors do theirs (though in my observation yuri is actually less indulgent). But relationships characterized by a rigid hierarchy are not even close to the norm in yuri. (My bias is that I do like problematic relationships and power dynamics in lesbian fiction, but these are also not the norm.)

By coincidence the Euphoria series finale just aired, and there's a relevant bit of text in the Guardian's review:..

Beyond the distracting shootouts and drug cartel wars, season three of Euphoria was at its strongest when it reflected the increasingly nihilistic world young people are consuming online, where they’re being raised to believe that they either have to be the hunter or the prey. As the show ends with the American flag rippling in the wind, I was reminded of Trick Mirror – a 2019 book of essays by Jia Tolentino, where she argues that scamming is becoming central to American life. Tolentino writes that to be American is to learn that “one of the best bids a person can make for financial safety” is to get “really good at exploiting other people”.

In other words, this manga is more than just a toxic relationship, it's the entire streaming ecosystem, globally.

This critic’s read of Jia Tolentino is basically asking a personal question she could not have any possible insight into, like what influencer is making her kids tie other children to lampposts. How is scamming just “becoming” central to American life? Historically it’s been very profitable to just lie to people and say you have what they need, and strivers coming to a land they have no real connection to are going to be a particularly lucrative source of income for this kind of thing. Almost every regulatory body and protection the US has is a response to this, and with the sanction of corporations - the more monied and sophisticated of the swindlers. This is par for the course, not an aberration, these regulations are sclerotic by design and the American middle class does not have the power it did once for a very brief time 80 years ago or the power it thought it did for like 70 years after that. But that has nothing to do with this manga, which is about what is happening to the Rizzler right now, and it has nothing to do with Euphoria, which is a show about hating younger women for getting naked or not getting naked enough depending on how you’re feeling about your relationship with your father that day

This is fair, though my impression is that scams contribute more to economic growth in general than what we were used to. Right now the hottest thing in the hottest sector which is tech, is Gen-AI. A few years ago it was the metaverse and crypto. I'm calling these scams because even their claimed benefits to consumers are bogus. Fake products and fake services; for devastatingly high costs in the case of gen-AI. And I think all of this is related to the manga because even before I came to the comments, I got a pretty dystopian feeling from it.

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MC specifically experienced alienation from being a man, which is common in trans women but not enough to say much either way.

Also Misono so obviously just wants to have a penis herself who are we kidding.

People wanting to experience being the opposite sex is actually very common. There are enough physical and social differences to make the idea compelling.

"Wanting to experience" can mean that the person responds with some curiosity when prompted to think about the experience. But also that they think about it regularly and voluntarily, or it's constantly in the back of their mind. It also matters how the process affects them emotionally.

Considering it's just one volume, there was a satisfying arc to the relationship. Nina managed to become the person who Mao turns to for comfort, which was not quite the case when they were in high school either. I'm comfortable with thinking of this as a grey area in terms of "yuri", but this feels like a happy/hopeful ending.

hmmm i get the whole debate over this being yuri or just subtext and my opinion is... doesn't matter i guess. they both don't end up with men in the end and are clearly the closest with each other so it could turn into them dating in the future so i'm happy

That description also applies to Tropical Fish Yearns for Snow and that's subtext. I don't think the bar should be "don't end up with men".

Instead of how plausible it is that they will date in the future, we could focus on what we've seen so far. The relationship status of the leads by the end is important, but I also like to consider how that status came about and how the story frames it. In this case, for example, Mao drops the shitty male FWB thanks to Nina's efforts after the latter has been itching to get rid of him the whole time. Maybe more straight girls would find that aspirational in 2026 than I would expect, but...

I guess I’ve said it before, but I didn’t experience the first arcs of this series as being so consistently fluffy and drama-free—quite the contrary. Aya’s initial accidental discovery that “Onii-san” was Mitsuki, Mitsuki giving away the concert ticket to the friend, Mitsuki’s “coming out at school as cool” arc, etc. were all about uncertainty, interpersonal tension, and misunderstanding.

Those arcs all resolved happily enough, to be sure, and there were indeed loads of purely fluffy moments, like the music festival arc, and Mitsuki’s interactions with Aya’s mom and siblings, etc. But I just don’t see the latest chapters as less interesting than the earlier ones, even though everything doesn’t get resolved with a “Mitsuki’s unconscious rizz” moment anymore.

From what I've gathered, the "Mitsuki's unconscious rizz" moments played an important role in managing the audience's frustration levels from week to week. Without them, you are left without reprieve for longer periods. So now Mizuki gets booed every week, as if she was a sportsball player having a particularly bad season.

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Tremendous amounts of aura in chapter 5. I don't care about soccer irl but I love it when an artist can make it look fun