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joined Jul 26, 2019

Otherwise the question is simple is what do you imagine one second that koyuki accepts that konatsu goes out with a boy and vice versa? the answer is clearly no, they would be desperate both of them, it's more than friendship then... Will they assume their feelings or have eternal regrets by repressing their feelings as from the beginning...
It's a possible sweet and bitter end that would be terribly frustrating, not having succeeded in admitting that they can't live without each other when koyuki leaves for Tokyo...
I wish more an end where konatsu promises to koyuki to join her in a year. I find it really hard to see the author ending with a simple "we finally understood each other and now we can each go our own way and still be good friends"... their relationship is so intense and full of innuendoes based on their loneliness as an excuse, that it can't end like that, it would be a huge disappointment of "all her for her".

last edited at Oct 28, 2020 8:31AM

joined Jul 26, 2019

Personally by reading the last raw chapter I am more optimistic for an good evolution of their relationship. We feel that they are asking questions about their emotions towards each other and not just as simple friends.Precisely for the story of the frog it may be that koyuki by this symbol would like to become the frog again with respect to konatsu and still not what was hidden in the koyuki drawer .. more on the flashback of the fairground and the fireworks at the beginning of the story , where konatsu asked if she was special for koyuki, she finally answers her ...
While waiting for the translation I think that the anguish of konatsu and koyuki is due to the fact that the departure for tokyo of koyuki is approaching and that they do not have much time to spend time and definitely discover what they are. feel towards each other.

The Mangaka really tried to tell us stuff with Konatsu's body language in this chapter, a lot of panels spent on her hand placement, and overall body expression through the chapter reveals a lot about how she's thinking... I might go back and do a re-read to see where else that happens, because it was as though she diliberatley wanted us to see her timidness and anger in some of those panels. Maybe she recently acquired an obsession with hand paneling lol

Yes it seems that there are a lot of "bodily" signs from koyuki unlike konatsu who remains .... konatsu.
But some looks towards konatsu, show a certain feverishness but also an evolution of koyuki which no longer hesitates to look konatsu in the eyes while smiling, which confuses konatsu ...
Then it will take a good translation because there are certain passages where they speak to each other with poetic and abstract sentences, like riddles, konatsu moreover on the end seeks to understand the meaning as well as the surprise to see the frog soft toy. . hard to tell who the salamander is and who the frog is at the moment ... konatsu seems to have accepted the situation and koyuki's departure, but koyuki seems to conflict with that, she is frustrated .. .
In any case, the author is very good at getting certain messages across in this scan, to make us ask questions, to leave the possibilities completely open, which is sure, is that she will take her time, and for me the denouement and the translation of this story of salamander and the frog, of which is which by them even! and finally it looks like koyuki is bought and put away something that must be intended for konatsu or related.

joined Jul 26, 2019

Personally by reading the last raw chapter I am more optimistic for an good evolution of their relationship. We feel that they are asking questions about their emotions towards each other and not just as simple friends.Precisely for the story of the frog it may be that koyuki by this symbol would like to become the frog again with respect to konatsu and still not what was hidden in the koyuki drawer .. more on the flashback of the fairground and the fireworks at the beginning of the story , where konatsu asked if she was special for koyuki, she finally answers her ...
While waiting for the translation I think that the anguish of konatsu and koyuki is due to the fact that the departure for tokyo of koyuki is approaching and that they do not have much time to spend time and definitely discover what they are. feel towards each other.

last edited at Oct 26, 2020 8:13PM

Stannis
Yuru Oyako discussion 25 Oct 20:52
joined Jul 26, 2019

lol sayaka who only hides one eye at the end ^^

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

There are still signs that show at the end that they are together more or less lovingly, the fact that uta says when she is at university that she did not see kaoru then a year and that at the end on the way home from work she returns and therefore lives at kaoru who says welcome to you is rather optimistic at this level. But I can't believe it ends like this, its feeling the end open with a jump in time I hope (I beg?) that they make us a citrus+ suite , or at least one or more chapters when they live together once uta adult!

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

It seems like a lot of readers want (or at least are predicting) what Kaoru wanted just before Uta left: for things to go back to being the way they were before.

Only with Kaoru now aware of Uta's feelings and the pain it causes her, and Kaoru aware that Reiichi doesn't love her romantically and wishes he could be with Risako.

Sounds like with one tough conversation around the dinner table this thing could have been about 3 chapters long:

Uta to Kaoru: "I'm in love with you romantically."
Kaoru: "I love you too, but not that way."
Reiichi: "I love you, Kaoru, but not that way. I'm going to go see Risako."
Kaoru: "Should I make bentos for you guys?"

And risako ? alas in one chapter you can't finalize every situation, even her friends are going to be zapped.... it's really a shame that it ends abruptly if it's a choice of the editor, letting the author take his time for some passages like 3 chapters flashback and telling him to finish in 2 chapters is frustrating.
I think it would have been nice to do one chapter with the final separation with reichii, the conclusion with risako, the move with uta, to do another chapter where they live together with the joys that go with it and then a last one with a timeskip where potentially they are together lovingly.

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

I have the impression that people you have not understood that kaoru is the victim of this story not uta .
More this hatred when on the contrary the fact that they are going to live together without reicchi changes completely the situation... kaoru wasn't going to fall in love with uta from one day to the next when she has just undergone an incredible shock and has taken the worst decisions for her life...
The fact that she accepts with joy to live with uta while not rejecting her definitively in love leaves all the possible perspectives.
And excuse me for saying that kaoru is a bad partner when you see her when she is in her normal state (and not betrayed), that she is a warm, faithful, funny, generous, kind person that scares me on your criteria.
The fact that she will find herself will calm kaoru and uta, it's a huge evolution with all these depressive situations... they will be closer than ever, uta will become an adult and from then on everything will be possible, for me it's not the end but the renewal of their common history.

joined Jul 26, 2019

I'm afraid that it's like a lot of manga and that the author takes a lot of time and an "auxiliary" chapter and that in the end it's a kind of rush with a hurried end or with a lot of questions or opportunities to go deeper wasted.
I don't dislike kaede and fuyuki but it makes a whole chapter about something quite banal, the author wants to make too much melancholy at the slightest opportunity, you have to balance the situations, otherwise you get the impression that all these people are depressive and their lives are miserable.
I hope that in the next chapter we will finally have real interactions especially between konatsu and koyuki, because otherwise I'll start to think that the author is trying to save time for X reasons... and please don't take the easy shortcut where kaede wants to prevent konatsu and koyuki from making the same mistake. And it would also be frustrating if the story ends with an obvious melancholic good bye between konatsu and koyuki as just good friends, it would be a waste personally.

last edited at Sep 27, 2020 10:21AM

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

As often enough it's a pity that Japanese authors don't manage to make a successful end, to believe that they don't like to eternalize themselves on the outcome of a story ... stay 3 chapters on a flashback, take the time to see the couple friends of uta and hurry to finish the story when a deepening would have been great it's a waste, it's frustrating ... unless he decides to go on a spinoff but I doubt it.

joined Jul 26, 2019

An unacknowledged double first love can make you think, upset a situation that seemed frozen especially knowing that the two loved each other but could not admit it to each other more the drama caused by the parents ...
No one has known an unspeakable youthful love and imagine that the girl goes back for years to say that she was finally in love and that she finally found the courage to come back to make her declaration? it would be very, very hard to resist and not to think about it day and night ...

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

Stannis posted:

Sensei has a twin sister too! It's no longer a love triangle but a love square ^^

I only saw the first 2 and came to see the reactions to see how it is lately and this comment.... Lol it really made me laugh! like, good or bad, I know it won't be boring at least XDDDD

Sorry but the chapter has just come out, I would not have allowed myself to spoil if ^^ But yes this manga is full of little surprises ....

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

Sensei has a twin sister too! It's no longer a love triangle but a love square ^^

Stannis
Liberty discussion 25 Aug 20:45
joined Jul 26, 2019

It's up to liz and only to liz to solve the problem... it's up to her to manage her ex and to tell her that everything is over otherwise she will always leave a hope to her senpai... then to apologize to maki and to tell her clearly that she loves her.
On the other hand we feel that for the last chapters the lack of pages accelerate things too much, liz takes maki by the hand to then leave her alone, liz must have suspected that her senpai would take advantage of it....

Then it's quite realistic in the show business there's a lot of pressure... the mix of career, past love, can derail any person as we see it with current stars who cheat or take drugs.The stars are not as happy as their smiles would lead you to believe. Liz remains a fragile and tortured person.

last edited at Aug 25, 2020 8:50PM

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

I'm not sure if chigawa kon is back from the cave...

joined Jul 26, 2019

Am I the only one who notices it's the girl with glasses who's messing up?

joined Jul 26, 2019

I'm not sure that shino appreciates even if it's positive for nozomi ... I feel that jealousy will happen especially if nozomi decides to go to the cinema or to come out with the girl ^^ from the bar ....

joined Jul 26, 2019

Probably a story about her parents moving her out because they don't agree...

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

Wait before you take it out on Risako, it's thanks to her that Kaoru will stop insisting and try to save her marriage again... She may seem cruel, but she's saving reicchi and Kaoru from a life of lies and false hopes.
It's your turn to play uta, the way is clear !

joined Jul 26, 2019

The highlight for me will be the day when they will have to say goodbye (momentarily), they will finally let go of their emotions, feelings towards each other.
This is all the more true as their relationship has evolved and seems totally unblocked, each no longer wants to waste time and spend time together.
I hope that we will have the right to events where they will enjoy spending time together and why not get closer again ^^

joined Jul 26, 2019

Wouldn't label it as yuri count as spoiling the ending too? I don't think the author wanted that!

She literally has on multiple occasions said that the story isn't yuri. She is openly spoiling it. The denial gets stronger over time. People say its about not wanting to spoil the story but she has spoiled the story multiple times on twitter. Others say she doesn't like to use labels as if "not yuri" and "girlship" arent just more labels.

I always hated that, move on or just drop the story already.

Funny how you can't manage to do that for negative comments. Take your own advice.

I just find it cute that people hold out hope despite what the author has said.

Yeah, they just said on this chapter that they still need each other to move forward in life, they give each other complicit glances, they finally hold hands, that basically they feel lonely as soon as they are separated, I find that it's a crescendo of romantic friendship and you or I can't tell if it's going to end up as a yuri or not.
Based on a twitt to say that the author in a Japanese translation says that it won't be yuri to me a little too easy and pretentious. Because it's a certainty she doesn't want to spoil the end of her story.

joined Jul 26, 2019

I think more and more there was an old romance affair between touko and akari's mother... and Akari must be a lot like her mother and that's why Tuko seems so caring.

Stannis
joined Jul 26, 2019

On the contrary, I think risako has no feelings except for kaoru.
In any case risako has blown up any hope of kaoru to start again from zero with reicchi, the point of no return has been reached...

Stannis
Lily Marble discussion 09 Jul 06:13
joined Jul 26, 2019

I read of the deception but was it not obvious that moe was going to be in a couple with tsubasa finally ?

joined Jul 26, 2019

Well, what now? I feel like it's been a long time since she's thought about supporting nozomi... What will it be like to go out, smile with her, always eat together, the author doesn't get bored after a while? I hope for a surprise and finally some concrete movement so that we can come to a conclusion whatever it is !