muteKi posted:

johnb posted:

"It's perv man na na na na perv man!" Is that an actual reference to the campy 60's American Batman tv show? I find it hard to believe a modern Japanese teen could possibly get that.

Checked the "simulpub" (which came out 3 days after the scanlation, lol) and they used "Pervy McPervman", which is even less something a Japanese teen would use.

Hm, was it originally some kind of an anpanman reference then?

えっちマンだ！やーいえっさマン！

Which is, as far as I can find, a generic TV hero theme song, with "ecchi man".

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As usual, Fuuko being an angel and Natsume being worst girlfriend ever.

Also, Yuki showing her true colors, at last.

johnb posted:

"It's perv man na na na na perv man!" Is that an actual reference to the campy 60's American Batman tv show? I find it hard to believe a modern Japanese teen could possibly get that.

Checked the "simulpub" (which came out 3 days after the scanlation, lol) and they used "Pervy McPervman", which is even less something a Japanese teen would use.

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johnb posted:

"It's perv man na na na na perv man!" Is that an actual reference to the campy 60's American Batman tv show? I find it hard to believe a modern Japanese teen could possibly get that.

It's been a meme for a long time and I guess the translator adapted a similar super-hero Japanese theme song.

FiddlePop posted:

Since it is never explicitly mentioned what happened to the pendant, my headcancon is that Ai one day left it on a random park bench or sold it to get that car (hence, Kaede in car).

In the previous chapter, she said she'd keep it, as a memento, but nothing more.

https://mangadex.org/chapter/de1b280d-29fe-4b1a-bf8a-029ec57c3bf7/19

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Sleepyhead posted:

Here's to hope they would communicate for real and not just via musical instruments. T-T

Rock is their form of communication. Always has been.

Yuki Yukuzu posted:

Makes sense they'd bolt the fuck out of Japan, where they can't get married. In the US, Mitsuki can actually play rock (because in Japan it's very niche) and they can actually marry.

Mitsuki's problem is that she can't play the music she wants in Japan. Out of Japan, the problem is solved.

Wouldn't this just be going from a place with little demand and not a lot of competition to going to place with too much demand and endless amount of competition?

I don't think she's afraid of competition, but of losing her way.

I mean, Aya is studying English in college, Mitsuki is already fluent and plays western rock. And they have family there.

Makes sense they'd bolt the fuck out of Japan, where they can't get married. In the US, Mitsuki can actually play rock (because in Japan it's very niche) and they can actually marry.

Mitsuki's problem is that she can't play the music she wants in Japan. Out of Japan, the problem is solved.

Also, she didn't ask for them to get married right away. It's not possible in Japan, so they have all the time in the world.

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As far as I understand, for Kaede, to wait indefinitely and yearningly for an Ai that will never come, is the kind of human emotion she craved, so it works for her. What's important to her is not that Ai comes, but the process of waiting. Good for her. I guess.

Zesc posted:

That is an astute observation and partly the reason I'm burnt out with trying to make people understand each other on this topic, but you're forgetting that gender-nonconformity (which is not entirely the same as crossdressing but I'll spare you the paragraphs) is also an identity under the queer umbrella, and the vehement insistence of a loud minority that everybody who prefers a nonstandard gender expression must automatically be trans is erasure. It's not akin to, or paramount to, or any other evasive wording, it simply denies the validity of parts of this forum (incl. my own), not any different from trans erasure.

I'm generally fine with people reading stuff however they like (in the vastness of the internet, there are much much worse takes) and have some shitty headcanons myself (with Shohei's very tomboyish LRIG being super excited to snatch his body and feeling like always having had it, I think Dona might actually be a YOB) because in the end it's nothing more than military-grade yuri googles (trans goggles?) so whatever. But then there's some generalized bullshit that's frankly just insulting.

Thus begins the Dynasty Crossdressing Discourse Cycle, invariably leading to the same outcome you observed:

1. Something about cross-dressing, drag, etc. is posted and people get excited.
2. Somebody begins to make objectively incorrect blanket statements
3. Attempts to correct them are taken as a direct attack on trans identities. (In 85% of all cases that's an understandable, yet miss-placed trauma response from transwomen getting marginalized almost everywhere else. The other 15% are just assholes, a which every demographic can lay claim to.)
4. The sort of person who sees women as a mere collection of parts (and therefore transwomen as inferior, because they might not have the part you're looking for) joins the debate spewing bigotry under the guise of civil discourse.
5. People with zero interest in actually finding common ground sling mud (whilst a silent majority is wisely simply not engaging. I hope)
6. Regret living in a signatory of the 1925 Geneva Protocol without reservations. (Optional)

The one thing is people arguing about how to read a piece of media (though I won't deny there's the sporadic "lesbians don't exist" more often than not argued accidentally by people sucking at thinking things through) which is inescapable in this day and age. The other one's a highly volatile mix of misguided solidarity and genuine transphobia. (I'd generally argue the latter is much rarer than some people tend to believe in this decidedly queer space, whereas the former is a simple consequence of "being queer doesn't mean you're right on matters of queer concern" which I learned is the one thing nobody wants to hear.)

In the end it just genuinely ruins any attempt by anyone to have any opinion whatsoever without the whole tread derailing into the sort of forum drama you're eventually too old for.

Anyway there's also a futa-elephant in the room that begs to be undressed another day.

Very much this. Thank you.

Especially the part about gender non-conforming erasure and people jumping on some statements, construing them as direct attacks on trans identity, becoming very aggressive and derailing the thread. Just because you're queer doesn't mean you're right on everything queer. You have a voice, but it's still just your personal experience/opinion.

bookwyrm posted:

The meme in question being referenced is "assum[ing] [someone's] gender", not the phrase "bold of you to assume...", just to be clear.

Then even more indication that the poster didn't even reference it and, like most people not chronically online, had never heard of it. I've been somehow framed as "transphobic" myself sometimes, because some opinions or turns of sentences are easily construed as transphobic by people who want to cancel their opponent instead of addressing the topic at hand.

Ngl, discussion threads about crossdressing/genderbender/transgender manga turn radioactive very easily on Dynasty.

Lariria posted:

Are you 12????? Getting mad about adults using curse words in 2026?????

This is just baffling me!

I'm not mad though? I just think that resorting to curse words to make an argument just makes you sound brainless.

If it's the impression you want to give, please proceed.

Lariria posted:

(though I think she blocked me at some point)

Can't imagine why.

Bold of you to assume Skye's gender.

You ain't subtle. Using the fucking transphobic meme here says a fucking lot considering the context of the rest of what you've been saying. Just be honest with us instead of trying to be fucking coy.

Tbh, I myself didn't know what meme you're talking about before looking it up.

"Bold of you to assume " is a pretty common expression and no one is obligated to know it was part of a transphobic dank meme decades ago.

Also, please, be respectful. No need to be rude and use the F word. It just make you sound immature.

Characters dressing as the other gender is common in manga. Most of the time, unless it's specifically about trans-identity, authors never give any hints about the self-identification of the characters and just state "I like what I like, don't judge". It's more about challenging the rigid Japanese society of what is expected of you than about challenging gender perception.

Now, it's very different from what western readers expect, because they want them to have a label or something to frame the characters. So they always want the character to say "I'm gay", "I'm a man", "I'm a woman" and the other characters around to acknowledge it not only in speech but also in thoughts. If a character dresses as the opposite gender, they have to be trans or an egg.

Japanese culture about crossdressing doesn't work like that and it's creating endless conflict on manga like this.

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Pharmacist lady Chitose doxxed her and found her rental girlfriend profile..
Mizuki-chan is super high maintenance, jealous and already riffled through her phone and probably found out about her side job...

Ren is stalked and in a toxic relationship now. Good intro to the lesbian world!

Markus_Bomke posted:

Damn this runs since 2018. This must be a record for the slowest burning story of the century.... ^_^

And it's been forever since I saw a Gaia Online avatar.

adel91 posted:

Though..who is Akane san..o.o?

Akane is the girl Kaede met in high school with which she had a co-dependent lesbian relationship, until Akane grew up out of it and dumped her.

Jubzy posted:

(Chapter16) Whoa, she kind of handled that well.... a little too well that some evil shits probably gonna happen soon Y_Y

Next chapter is the last. Not much can happen, except a happy epilogue.

Looks like a retell of Ribbon no Kishi. Even the character design looks like Tezuka's.

Hope this one doesn't end in het, like the original.

laborgay posted:

Woah, wait a minute, did Mashiro fucking do THAT to Fuuko on that one page? Her fingers are wet and bloody, and you see blood dripping down Fuuko's leg.

If I'm right than did she technically sexually assault her?

yeah I'm a bit surprised how few people are really noticing this, and that it isn't tagged with dubcon at absolute bare minimum.

If you look at the previous pages, she's just apathetic and doesn't refuse Mashiro.

On page 21, you can see Fuuko willingly kissing Mashiro.

Also, the imagery of the spread is clear: she's covering the eyes of her child self herself, symbolizing that she willingly loses her innocence. Emotionless sex doesn't mean rape or dubious consent (also, they have at most a couple years difference).

My thought is that Yuni IS Fuuko's salvation as much as Fuuko is Yuni's salvation.

Yuni basically fell out of love with Nanase, because Nanase has zero EQ and is unable to provide what Yuni needs: attention and love.

Now that Fuuko fell out of love with her straight childhood crush, she's absolutely capable of sincerely loving Yuni and shower her with affection. She can absolutely be Yuni's number one, proving Mashiro wrong.

I think we're heading toward a confrontation between Yuni and Mashiro, with Fuuko at stake. I don't think Yuni will be afraid of Mashiro, except maybe because blackmail: as long as Yuni hasn't broken up with Nanase, she's on shaky ground to claim Fuuko.

But maybe that confrontation is where the deadlock will at last unravel.

Though I don't put it beyond the author to cook up a bad ending, with everyone miserable.

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It's the second time we see "Tsuzuki-senpai", who looks at Mashiro sideways. Maybe she'll be the one to rein in Mashiro.

coolsnail posted:

i read through 14sai not that long ago, and i should probably double check, but... this feels like a massive tone shift. like these are basically just different characters? or some kind of weird AU. reliance made more sense to me before i checked out the source work. it's honestly baffling.

14-sai was a light-hearted romcom with various side couples, sometimes a bit controversial (age gap, stalkers, obsessive characters...) but it didn't stray too far from its premise.

Reliance started 12 years later and probably the author wanted something darker for this one? It wasn't even published in the magazine, it was web-only, except maybe a couple chapters.

rainbow8 posted:

I don't remember this work well and I haven't read 14sai or whatever the original is.

Is the nurse likely Bad or is this all some massive misunderstanding? I remember getting big "paranoid delusion" vibes from the "go spy on her" girl who just got her glasses broken.

As far as I remember 14-sai, the nurse was in love with another female teacher (who was also her childhood friend?) who didn't see her that way at all and was more interested in the singing shota (see the other spin-off, Harmony)

The nurse was very abrasive and bitter because of her unrequited love. Shiki, the other lesbian with an unrequited love, built something toxic with the nurse after finding in her a kindred spirit.

Shiki is definitely a psycho lesbian and Haijima doesn't like her, but can't seem to get rid of her.

The events in Reliance take place in their last year of middle school.

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sujeon posted:
Mashiro tells Yuhi that if she get's good marks, she'll give her an award. Yuhi is conflicted afterwards, unsure if it /was/ love. But she feels happy knowing that someone older than her appreciates her. manipulation much, FUCK YOU MASHIRO

Probably missed the last panel of page 16 with their feet.

They actually did the deed.

Reminder though, while what she did is scummy, Mashiro wasn't an adult either. The age gap should be a couple years at most. The real scum is probably Aoi-san, who's fucking a high schooler.

Also, I don't think it was a grooming plan from the start. She saw Yoshino in Yuhi and used this to get brownie points, but she got desperate at some point probably because Yoshino didn't see her that way at all.

I'm not making excuses for her though. Just that some people make bad decisions under emotional stress.