What I've wondered about is the tradeoff between familyname-chan and personalname-san

JumboWheat01 posted:

Says she wants to cuddle, yet steals all the blankets. The absolute fiend.

That's the secret. You steal all the blankets so if she wants to get warm she has to go through you. It's called cornering the market, sweaty

Local woman found dead from embarrassment.

Reports say her girlfriend was on the phone with her uncle when he overheard the woman saying she wanted to cuddle more. Her girlfriend reported her passing shortly thereafter.

oh, Aya-san. we knew you so well.

That would be a way to end the series

Translator note: Aya now calls Mitsuki with her first name instead of "Koga-san". And Mitsuki makes a show of calling her "Oosawa-san" when speaking with Joe, but then, at the end, calls her "Aya-san".

The fact Mitsuki still uses a polite "-san" speaks volumes about who's on top.

For me this means that Mitsuki is on top but maybe I am misinterpreting your tone and you mean that Aya is on top?

It means that Mitsuki is more "respectful" toward Aya than Aya is toward Mitsuki.

Which implicitely means that Aya is "higher" in the hierarchy and "on top". Though I thought it was obvious all along the manga...

How you call someone carries very subtle implications in Japanese culture, because it's very hierarchical. Foreigners often trip on that and can inadvertently belittle someone without realizing it.

I am sorry I thought you were making a word play implying that Mitsuki was topping Aya, and Mitsuki still using -san was similar to the cookiness when a Kouhai tops her Senpai and is still very polite. Thanks for explaining! though I already know about that stuff, I thought what you said had a double meaning, I have my mind in the gutter lol

I was going to say Joe probably wouldn't tease them about this, but he would definitely tell Kanna and it would be dereliction of duty for her NOT to tease them about this!

This was a nice chapter, also nice to see them sharing a bed.

lol, still easily embarassed.

Calm down, Joe knows what's up. :D

Ha ha. My version is that Joe was like "Aya said the funniest thing during the call... I wonder what that was all about" and Kanna gave him A Look and said "Joe." and continued staring at him until the penny dropped and he clued in.

Good for Joe; you can tell he's acclimatized well to life in the States, because he's holding his phone like all the dipshits here do.

Thanks for explaining! though I already know about that stuff, I thought what you said had a double meaning, I have my mind in the gutter lol

Oh Aya definitely tops in the other meaning too.

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Good for Joe; you can tell he's acclimatized well to life in the States, because he's holding his phone like all the dipshits here do.

Ah yes, Standard American Dipshit Phone Holding, or SADPH. All Americans learn this in school.

Good for Joe; you can tell he's acclimatized well to life in the States, because he's holding his phone like all the dipshits here do.

What are you talking about? That's a normal way to hold it if you have speakerphone on.

What I've wondered about is the tradeoff between familyname-chan and personalname-san

As Kirin-kun said earlier, there is a lot of cultural subtlety around names and honorifics that depends on context that can include situation, age, family, and other interpersonal factors. So you can’t necessarily make a blanket statement about a permutation’s “place.” But I’d say “lastname-chan” is more formal; it’s always considered more familiar to use someone’s given name. “-chan” isn’t exactly an independent honorific, it’s really more of a “diminutive” or cutesy version of “-san.” When used on an adult it says more about how you perceive their personality than their social status.

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Thanks for explaining! though I already know about that stuff, I thought what you said had a double meaning, I have my mind in the gutter lol

Oh Aya definitely tops in the other meaning too.

sadly I prefer it the other way around, I don't think we'll see that, so my hopes and dreams haven't been shattered —yet

Poor Aya. LOL

Good for Joe; you can tell he's acclimatized well to life in the States, because he's holding his phone like all the dipshits here do.

What are you talking about? That's a normal way to hold it if you have speakerphone on.

You actually don't need to hold it like that.