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Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

For all her stated reluctance Misa is a really good dom, whenever Io is at a breaking point she find a way to work whatever is distressing her into being sexualized. It's a release valve that must be especially precious for someone who's always under such pressure and isn't allowed to do other things. She's very thoughtful, too--im not surprised Io is going to her in such a dire moment.

I think it's really cool of Flowerchild to let the Bad Thing happen. It permanently changes the dynamic of your story, it has big fallout for the characters and the audience, and it requires a lot of restructuring and changing in the world you're writing: it's not easy, even if I think it's worth it. It's really cool of her, and I'm excited to see where she takes this.

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

For all her stated reluctance Misa is a really good dom, whenever Io is at a breaking point she find a way to work whatever is distressing her into being sexualized. It's a release valve that must be especially precious for someone who's always under such pressure and isn't allowed to do other things. She's very thoughtful, too--im not surprised Io is going to her in such a dire moment.

150% this. Hase fails to comprehend that Misa doesn't just impose herself on Io but actually meets her emotional needs, which just happen to lie on the other side of subspace.

joined Jul 26, 2024

It's hard for me to say this is meeting Io's emotional needs, but it's the closest either of them know how to do that. Also, on some level nothing could make up for what Io's been through, so I guess like, good for them? At least you extracted some short term benefit.

Real world morality aside (this is not the way to handle important discussions in a relationship), Misa has shown herself to be constantly thinking of Io's well being for quite a while. It makes their dynamic enjoyable to read about and it seems like there won't be much they can't handle as a team if they get through this. We don't know what messed up stuff Io's mom will do, but we may be past drama within the relationship itself.

Noodlerama001
joined Feb 24, 2023

“I’m so sorry I’ll do anything you ask” translation: this situation is getting me off please sexually satisfy me with DOM play.

Man I don’t think this girl actually cares her career is destroyed if it means more fetish fuel lol

last edited at Jun 30, 2025 3:11PM

joined Jul 26, 2024

From what I can tell: She likely likes acting and wouldn't want her career ended or- at least, it's her one marketable skill that she takes pride in. What she doesn't like is the pressure to embody a pure and innocent persona she can never fully live up to, nor being treated as a tool to further mom's career or goals.That's the big difference between how Hase and Misa treat Io - Hase's 'care' is only to help Io embody that image and role better, while Misa is okay with Io being herself and will be on team Io regardless of what happens with Io's career. Io's insecurity gets displaced onto sex, which Misa is understanding well in how she responds to validate Io.

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joined May 24, 2025

With both of their careers pretty much in the gutter, perhaps it's time for a rebranding? Like Misa catering to women from now on instead of men, and Io graduating from being an innocent girl to fulfill the mature / villain(?) archetype.

But then again, maybe a complete reset isn't a bad idea either.

Akebi_underwater_2_10
joined Jun 1, 2020

Funnily enough, since they lost their livelihood and things can't really get much worse than this, and Io has an exhibitionism fetish and they do enjoy this kinky play all the time, they could just turn the tables, take advantage of the media circus and record or stream all their sex live for money - they regain a source of income to survive, Misa doesn't have to hide her sexuality and pander to men and it's not too big career shift, Io gets even more turned on at the prospect of possibly millions of online strangers watching. Kill two (or more) birds with one stone.

Oh dude if this is the start of the OnlyFans arc I'll be laughing for the next three lifetimes nonstop.

joined Mar 23, 2022

I like where this is going, I mean I'm not just talking about their impending and growing bdsm thing, but the fact how they thought and care each other instead of their own demise because of the blown issue, how they give each other's medicine thru doing the did instead of being paranoid, depressed and overly thinking on how their career will end up in the future.but damn I hope they will overcome what the final boss(Io mom) will do soon.I'm scared for mah babies.

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joined Feb 16, 2021

Wake up guys, the peak is back

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joined Oct 20, 2017

Misa's ability to make every problem seem surmountable by funneling it into a Scenario is really inspiring

joined Dec 5, 2019

Oh no a random woman is into women it's the end of the mother fucking world

That #2 seemed kinda torn up about it but now that she's #1 she seems like she doesn't give a fuck after all. Hope all those men who only care about your tits make you happy, babe.

Or should we say, "good luck babe" I'm a strong believer that waka didn't want the first spot she wanted the first woman. The face she did was not of happiness I think it was kinda blank for what it seemed to me.

Kafka(1)
joined Jun 9, 2025

Misa is a domme that every woman deserves to have/deserves to be. For all her talk about not being into it shes a complete natural at giving Io the release the needs. I aspire to be even half as good at what shes doing.

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joined Nov 27, 2022

Misa is a domme that every woman deserves to have/deserves to be. For all her talk about not being into it shes a complete natural at giving Io the release the needs. I aspire to be even half as good at what shes doing.

Absotutely. Bless the women taking up the reigns to reel in the wily ones. I dont envy Io but I could use a Misa of my own

Kafka(1)
joined Jun 9, 2025

Misa is a domme that every woman deserves to have/deserves to be. For all her talk about not being into it shes a complete natural at giving Io the release the needs. I aspire to be even half as good at what shes doing.

Absotutely. Bless the women taking up the reigns to reel in the wily ones. I dont envy Io but I could use a Misa of my own

I have my Io. I just gotta get on Misa's level!

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joined Oct 21, 2017

I kind of figured her mom just saw her daughter not as a daughter or a person but as a product

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joined Feb 8, 2024

Hey all, sorry this took forever, the redraws were a tall mountain to climb with not as much free time to climb them... Chapter 17 released on Thursday and it looks comparatively benign, so hopefully we'll have that up soon.

Just for the record, the narration on page 10/11 appears to be from Io's POV, so I'm pretty sure the choking is just another one of those "no contextually means yes" scenes. Do be dearies and actually have boundaries, safewords, and the like negotiated and understood before trying out CNCplay like this IRL tho!

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joined Jun 6, 2020

aww misa, you romantic

Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

God they're sooo sweet with each other.

Looks like Waka's customer who helped her with the expose isn't too happy about her becoming super popular now.

Interesting to see more of Hase's thoughts on her relationship with Io's mom.

Looking forward to the hot springs!

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joined Apr 25, 2020

Hm, a relatively wholesome chapter? I don't mind this change of a pace for once

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Looks like Waka's customer who helped her with the expose isn't too happy about her becoming super popular now.

How long until he grows entitled and blows the whistle on how he helped her sabotage her colleague's career.

joined Dec 28, 2017

Obviously the series conveniently forgets about safewords and talking anything through before sex despite it's semi realism (and it magically works for them perfectly, which, great) but I really like how the story always returns to how they care about each other - in juxtaposition with the sadism/masochism AND the genuine callousness of how Io's treated by the rest of the world, most of all Hase and her mother

last edited at Sep 21, 2025 7:31AM

joined Jul 24, 2025

Someone should really tell them about OnlyFans and Patreon. That would solve the work situation real easy.

Hoping the trip is another wholesome chapter!

joined Jan 14, 2020

Obviously the series conveniently forgets about safewords and talking anything through before sex despite it's semi realism (and it magically works for them perfectly, which, great) but I really like how the story always returns to how they care about each other - in juxtaposition with the sadism/masochism AND the genuine callousness of how Io's treated by the rest of the world, most of all Hase and her mother

IIRC Misa doesn't have prior BDSM experience, and Io certainly doesn't, so they're making it up as they go. You can't forget something you never knew.

I also occasionally see claims that safewords aren't as big a part of Japan's BDSM culture. A source I lost said they relied on "just pay attention"; this one is more negative: "Never have I ever heard Japanese people in the scene talk about considerations related to BDSM best practices in the States, such as negotiation or safewords."

https://www.sharingmytruth.com/the-japanese-bdsm-scene doesn't say "Japan doesn't have safe words" but Speaker A describes a relationship they were that didn't have safe words. "I didn't necessarily have a death wish, but I felt that I needed to be punished... But who was consenting? Not me, my subconscious, that wanted to be beaten up and punished. So although there was consent, inherent consent, it was coming from a very dark place."

Sound like Io?

joined Jul 26, 2024

It looks like my prediction of Misa keeping a completely isolated Io at her apartment has panned out, except Misa is almost in the same situation, and Io is refusing to sell her out. The agency may still try to blame Misa, but they won't be getting a statement from Io unless it's under heavy coercion, like something on the level of physically threatening her.

Waka went pretty fast from being worried about the implications of releasing photo to "It would have come out eventually, so I did nothing wrong." Like Io and Misa, she has demasked herself, but in her case it's that she's accepted she's okay doing things like this to get an advantage.

Hase and Marei having a breakdown powerlessly is somewhat funny, given how much they've been played up as a threat. It shows us that their relationship is a lot more than the professional one and that they likely both care about each other. At the very least Hase cares about Marei, but Marei must know she couldn't easily replicate her relation with Hase.

@rainbow8

IIRC Misa doesn't have prior BDSM experience, and Io certainly doesn't, so they're making it up as they go. You can't forget something you never knew.

I also occasionally see claims that safewords aren't as big a part of Japan's BDSM culture. A source I lost said they relied on "just pay attention"; this one is more negative: "Never have I ever heard Japanese people in the scene talk about considerations related to BDSM best practices in the States, such as negotiation or safewords."

Thanks for sharing that.

Strictly speaking "just pay attention" is enough outside of CNC. You only need an understanding of what it would look like if one of you needed to stop, which I increasingly think should be explicit conversation for any couple (even though it isn't always a conversation even in US BDSM). "No means no" is a good default, but some people shut down when they feel threatened or think they're being clear when they're not by the other's standards. Similarly, having a safe word doesn't establish the person will be able to use it if they need it.

From the referenced paragraph, I thought this was interesting:

I mean, there was one occasion where I was about to pass out and I said, in Japanese, it's choto kimochigawarui, which means, I think I'm going to faint or I feel odd.

Because it's roughly how I would phrase this. If I know the person isn't trying to make me pass out, I don't need to safe word or tell them to stop. All they need is this information about what's happening. I think this can generally be a good system.

The safe word would of course very much be necessary if someone wanted to replicate the comic IRL without Extremely Bad stuff happening, given they went deeply into CNC while barely knowing each other. Thankfully manga characters like Misa can reliably intuit the "subconscious consent" during dramatic scenes accurately enough that things mostly work out while skipping conversations, unlike people in real life.

last edited at Sep 21, 2025 4:05PM

joined Aug 10, 2021

I hope the story will become just a bit, a bit good for the little girl

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