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Kiarasmall4
joined Sep 6, 2018

I'm so proud of our girl, she's come so far. QQ. Look at her connect with people! Look at it!

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Kiarasmall4
joined Sep 6, 2018

Oh, it's so cute now.

Kiarasmall4
joined Sep 6, 2018

This is the feeling when you're neurodiverse and find out she's also neurodiverse.

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Image Comments 02 Aug 04:53
Kiarasmall4
joined Sep 6, 2018
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seeing Coco in old memes hits different now

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Image Comments 02 Aug 04:40
Kiarasmall4
joined Sep 6, 2018
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Kiarasmall4
joined Sep 6, 2018

Her 'friends' suck... A lot. They basically spent the whole time talking down to, insulting and just basically disregarding Mio (and her self-esteem). She says it herself at the end of the chapter though, she's never had friends. She's right, they're 'classmates' that she hangs out with. If they don't want to either listen nor connect with Mio then why should she with them.
(Sorry, it was only a couple of pages but it really irked me. I mean if she spends day in day out with these 'friends' that are, well, condescending towards Mio and constantly ignore her feelings and opinions then it's just toxic. Say FK you to those people and walk away. Bondage time with Sasara is way more healthy AND validating because their feelings are reciprocated. Again, sorry for the rant but it just bothered me... A Lot.)

Yes, absolutely. I love that the author knows this, too. The way Sarasa looked heartbroken when Mio would talk about it like, "this is just the way things are, haha! I guess I need to get better" when her supposed friends are treating her like shit, that was really healing to me. She saw, she understands, and even if they're not in a place where she can help Mio realize how fucked that is, she recognizes she's contributing to Miyu's feelings of alienation (and, yeah, trauma too--having that kind of thing happen your whole life leaves a lasting mental/physiological impact), and it's enough to pull her out of her own head and be more honest about wanting to connect with Mio.

They're so good for each other. I adore this series. I want to see their feelings even more connected by yuri SM.

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Image Comments 31 Jul 15:08
Kiarasmall4
joined Sep 6, 2018
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Love these two. They’ve got that beautiful multicultural gay thing going on, and they’re so soft and good for each other. I would never expect that from a Nintendo game.

Also digging Petra’s tattoos.

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Image Comments 31 Jul 15:01
Kiarasmall4
joined Sep 6, 2018
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This Eresh is kinda scary. I love it.

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Image Comments 31 Jul 15:00
Kiarasmall4
joined Sep 6, 2018
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This artist is such a winner

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Image Comments 31 Jul 14:57
Kiarasmall4
joined Sep 6, 2018
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Wait can anyone tell me if the LN continues after they get married and move in? I thought it ended there…

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Kiarasmall4
joined Sep 6, 2018

Yeahhhhh this story is really overstaying its welcome. I’ve been enthusiastically in favor of it in the past, but like people are saying, it just feels stagnant. Everytime younger MC enters the picture, older MC just gets fucking weird and uncomfortable with the barely-filtered selfish jealousy. It almost feels like she thinks she’s entitled to Senpai, and that the manga thinks that’s okay. That ain’t it. Huge turn-off.

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Kiarasmall4
joined Sep 6, 2018

Well this is chapter was good till she start to lick her. Doesn't she know any other way of helping her understand romance and not use it on her own advantage.
On the other hand when Seto said she has to get use to lewd things, I think she is practicing this romance stuff for that she could use it on younger Mc.

Like honestly it feels kinda shoehorned in, like meeting a quota. I am really enjoying the story but the ecchi moments feel more and more out of place, honestly. Its unfortunate because I think these issues stem from limited page count, theres not enough time to properly build up to those moments without sacrificing plot movement.

Yeah I kind of agree. The knee licking scene kind of broke the enjoyment of this for me, like it spent a while setting up some surprisingly delicate feelings for this story and then broke them, although I am starting to see that Senpai's horniness is could actively as a character flaw that sets her back. Like it could be actively getting in the way of her relationship, and that's cool. I don't expect any long-term consequences that would capitalize on this potential direction, but w/e.

Anyway, I can stomach some reluctance for a bit, but the point of that kind of trope for me is the breaking of it. Do boundaries get set and enforced, turning it into a commentary on consent and enthusiastic participation? Or does the reluctant or tsundere character start to melt into it and welcome it? IMO that aspect of their dynamic was hot for the first two, maybe three chapters, because it had some, "hot older woman has her eyes set on my body, oh no~!" vibes, and it was like, breaking the barrier that the MC had experienced when she was younger by being forward so that Seto-senpai also got to expereince the horni. But beyond that, it's definitely overstaying its welcome. They're not committing to either, "she kinda likes it and wants more," or, "this is actually a problem in their relationship," and so it just becomes weird non-con stuff that halts the pace of any fluffy feelings without building on them. Maybe if it didn't seem so disconnected to their emotions, or if Senpai's reaction was more of a "no, I shouldn't. But..." then I would like it more, but as it stands, I'm very ready for their dynamic to move on.

last edited at Jul 27, 2021 3:13PM

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Kiarasmall4
joined Sep 6, 2018

Assuming the artist did look at these "critiques," I'd point them to Linterdiction's posts on the previous pages

I'm blushing in the club right now.

<---actually mfw

...But anyway, yeah I was really happy to see the direction this chapter went in. MC is still very horny on main, but in this context she's also helping and being kind of sweet. It's good to know last chapter was basipally just what looks like a mistake in tone or implication, and the idea will still be that the MC is helping Seto-senpai out but like, in a fluffy and sexy way. It makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside.

I was just thinking about how it's maybe interesting that I'm okay with a fictional adult/underage relationship thing, but that the adult MC crossing boundaries and being petulant about wanting attention was absolutely not fine for me, even though both were treated with an equally "this is okay" bent by the writing. I think, since this is a piece of fiction, if we're shown only the good, sexy parts of that adult woman/teenage girl dynamic, then within the fiction, only those parts exist; like, the fucked up consequences that come with a young person being pursued by an adult IRL aren't actually present, and so it feels like it's just a bit of spice, and the gap in power and experience isn't really present. It's much more similar to a fantasy about this kind of scenario than it is to a reality. Meanwhile the terrible boundaries that were on display in the last chapter actually are happening within the world of the story, and it makes me feel kind of icky because they're not being treated or recognized as such.

There's an entirely separate argument to be made about what it means to scrub things like adult/teen relationships of their full, real-life consequences, but personally I'm not actually interested in that subject at all atm. Dealing with enough ethics questions in my own day-to-day. But if you're really interested in that kind of thing, there's a huge amount of critical literature surrounding Nabokov's Lolita, a novel in which pedophilia does carry all its real-world consequences within the fiction but in which the distorted mind of the pedophile-narrator pleading his case is the audiences' viewpoint into the world, and his logic is so insidious that if you don't engage with the novel by constantly questioning how he presents things, there is a very real danger that it will distort your perspective around that issue.

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Kiarasmall4
joined Sep 6, 2018

That outfit though… Toribami can lead me any day.

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Image Comments 25 Jul 01:21
Kiarasmall4
joined Sep 6, 2018
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^^This is the undeniable truth.

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Kiarasmall4
joined Sep 6, 2018

Thank you based Mochi. She is truly living up to her potential here. You love to see it.

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Kiarasmall4
joined Sep 6, 2018

This chapter definitely lowered my opinions of older MC. It didn't give the usual impression that she's aiming for Senpai and being around her in a somewhat mature way while indicating her interest through this sort of media-only consent style "I'm gonna get you turned on semi-publicly" kind of way. Instead, it just felt like her boundaries are fucking awful, and for me it kinda strained the fantasy that the story rides on.

I will say though, that one panel of her acting like her younger self at the end is fucking cute.

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Image Comments 22 Jul 01:11
Kiarasmall4
joined Sep 6, 2018
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Gudako is such a sub that she can sub to Okkie. Truly powerful.

Kiarasmall4
joined Sep 6, 2018

sexually knowledgeable

I'm pressing X rn

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Kiarasmall4
joined Sep 6, 2018

Must... not.. spoil... forum... with snarky comments about people's moral complaints 5 chapters in i mean like come on the story didn't even try to hide what it--

Phew, that was close. My monke brain almost won. Nothing more fulfilling than fighting strangers on the internet after all! (Hey mod team! Love you guys! Keep fighting!)

...Aaaaanyway, with regards to the chapter, it was kinda cool seeing the parallel between adult MC and younger MC vis a vis Senpai's ambitions. Like her younger self bottled up the horny until it overwhelmed her and she couldn't really help much, vs. adult MC uh, letting it out, as it were, and then making a stronger resolve to help her. But I also feel like younger MC would push through to help as well, if she knew the stakes. Whiiiich makes me super hype for a possible plot direction of young and adult MC working together to help Seto and then also being super horny over her, so she's caught between cute subby starry-eyed puppy dog and ara-ara onee-sama. The mix of wholesome and horny hits just right.

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Naturies discussion 19 Jul 11:52
Kiarasmall4
joined Sep 6, 2018

Absolutely amazing. A modern parable about resisting gay pinning and showing your shot, told through classic fairytale lesbians

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Kiarasmall4
joined Sep 6, 2018

I predict a standard yuri ending where they confess and then the series ends even though they'd have kissed and had sex nth amount of times by then

I absolutely disagree, I don’t feel like this is the kind of story that ends after a confession. It’s too interested in the way feelings and relationships grow and change. And with the way things are shifting in this mew volume, it’s basically BDSM Persona which is fucking incredible.

Speaking of which, I love the way this chapter makes the connection between the classic idea of fighting someone seriously so you understand each others’ feelings, and a BDSM scene, which is similarly about pushing yourselves and having an intense experience to open yourselves up to each other.

And I really felt like I followed what was going on, too, at like an instinctual gut level that is honestly kinda rare with most manga—usually things sort of just happen and I’m like okay, here’s the new development; it’s rare to see a story like this that so consistently hits the, “oh, I totally feel you” place on the spectrum. Like, I can see that they’ve been pushing stuff too fast (what with Kiwi being the joke crush character—also fucking sick that they’re realistically pulling her out of it) in sort of the goings-on side of things, and they really need to slow down, and start building a strong foundation through connecting their feelings. And the author didn’t even have to say any of that!! It just comes across!! It’s incredible, and I feel something like this at almost every development. I have to say, this is my current all-time favorite manga.

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Kiarasmall4
joined Sep 6, 2018

Oh and I hate these types of stories with lines such as "I can never break free from her control", it's such an angst fueled defeatist attitude and only says to me that the author loves tragedy porn.

…but that kind of stuff is like, exactly what happens in abusive relationships. Abusers make you feel like you have to pay to keep having access to something you need, that the energy to get out is a super high requirement, and they want you to feel like it’s impossible. To someone who craves attachment and companionship, threatening to leave someone is a powerful tool to get them to do anything, it’s really good at making them stay.

… Aaaanyway, it’s really interesting how this is set up. The blonde girl likes coldness and abuse because she’s spoiled and gets anything she wants—but at the same time, her demanding their relationship be only that is another example of her being spoiled and feeling entitled to only get what she wants. Making someone dom/degrade you without boundaries and without safewords or any kind of aftercare is like making them drown in sludge. This scenario is viscerally icky, and makes me feel all sorts of horrible things. It’s really well-done in that regard.

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Image Comments 18 Jul 04:32
Kiarasmall4
joined Sep 6, 2018
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rocky growths coming out your spine? Fuuuuuck that. Get that out of my head dude.

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Image Comments 18 Jul 04:28
Kiarasmall4
joined Sep 6, 2018
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get you one that looks at you like this

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