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Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

this chapter was such an emotional rollercoaster! I guess I hadn't realized how attached I've gotten to the characters over the... SIX YEARS??? oh god oh fuck

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Rhea's Egg discussion 26 Mar 11:36
Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

Rhea egg laying…

Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

Damn that sucks. She got rose colored glasses bc she ended up really into that girl, but she rly is a rental girlfriend client just the same as the others. Such an interesting premise. Come to think of it, i’ve never seen a “the sex worker actually loves me” deconstruction from the sew worker’s side. U see the “nah it’s her job” angle occasionally. But I really think I’ve never seen the “no she sees u as an emotional/sexual service worker” angle.

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Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

I really love how Remu responded here. Like fundamentally this story is about girls with different kinds of wants that are “disgusting” in different ways, and about seeing through what may seem repulsive on the surface to what’s going on inside. It’s about learning to think past your disgust. And critically, this extends to all 4 of the main cast members. Not just the sexual disgust of the main two, but the moral disgust of the girls we could call antagonists. There’s this ugly desire in us to want to see these people punished for doing wrong by the main pair, and the manga is asking us to take that same measured generosity to them as well. We’re not expected to just let it slide—in both cases, we see very clearly how the things they do are wrong, and the most heroic moments of the story are the main characters defending their space, setting boundaries, and critiquing that behavior—but it also doesn’t settle for the self-indulgent route of emotional vigilantism, of punishing what one receives as wickedness, but is in fact disfunction. Instead we are shown that these people have disgusting impulses inside them that come from very understandable places, that hurt them as they hurt others, and that that is a very human thing that doesn’t discount their humanity, or make them unworthy of love. In a society preoccupied with cutting away impurity, it’s a profound and deeply important act of compassion to accept the ugly and diffcult parts of oneself and of others. And that’s the virtue that Remu is displaying here: whether or not Niji can successfully take the hand that is being offered is up to her. It’s really beautiful.

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Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

This is so different! God it’s refreshing seeing an artistic vision that doesn’t just come from the same group of prior works and has a totally different intent. SO cool, I love how the art style matches the period too. I can tell this one is probably gonna be rough

Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

Yayyyy she's so fucked up!

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Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

Ok this could be tasty im investing now

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Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

Having a hard time putting this all together at the end. So is the implication supposed to be that Megumi conceived of this whole arrangement knowing Hime's feelings to both flex on her and give Ruri someone who would be really motivated to satisfy her in her absence? Knowing that Hime will go for it even knowing that Ruri won't fall for her, bc she just loves her that much? And the whole time, she's super confident that Ruri will never return those feelings. But then it turns out Ruri actually did catch feelings, Megumi didn't have control the whole time, and Hime decides to go for it?

I'm not confident in that reading. I'll probably have to take another couple passes through.

I think we will never know or fully understand what is the meaning of the ending, and I'm fairly sure that even the author doesn't know. Considering the author's other works, I think Ruri will still be together with Megumi while keeping a FWB relationship with Hime. This author has a thing for complicated/fucked-up relationship like this.

I don't find that to be a satisfying answer, though. Why go through the effort to put together and then dramatically break the sisyphus symbolism if not to signify that something changed? I agree that it being complicated and fucked up and tensely ambiguous is part of the point, but saying the author doesn't know what she meant to depict at the end is doing a pretty serious disservice to a pretty excellent work. It's kind of disrespectful to the mangaka honestly, this is a work obviously created with intention.

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Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

Having a hard time putting this all together at the end. So is the implication supposed to be that Megumi conceived of this whole arrangement knowing Hime's feelings to both flex on her and give Ruri someone who would be really motivated to satisfy her in her absence? Knowing that Hime will go for it even knowing that Ruri won't fall for her, bc she just loves her that much? And the whole time, she's super confident that Ruri will never return those feelings. But then it turns out Ruri actually did catch feelings, Megumi didn't have control the whole time, and Hime decides to go for it?

I'm not confident in that reading. I'll probably have to take another couple passes through.

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Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018
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this is so crazy

Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

The slow build and guilty masturbation were done really well in this chapter, besides being rly hot it conveyed a lot of feeling and was great for setting up the complexity of their relationship. Although it felt like the flashbacks and their clash with the narrative she was telling felt like they didn’t live up to that standard, which is a bit of a shame.

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Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

This manga is SO fascinating and uncomfortable. I love how it captures how hard it is to step back and evaluate emotional situations when it all involves you and it’s happening right there. It’s really hard to bring out the whole “here’s how I think this situation should be healthily handled” as a frame of reference, which is exactly what it feels like when you’re in the mix.

It’s hard to tell what Mirei thinks about things—I don’t think she even knows herself. When Soprano is closing in on her there’s this complicated mix of what seems to be erotic fear and actual regular fear. I love how the mangaka doesn’t obviously hint one way or the other and leaves it troubled and ambiguous. And things are complicated enough that it doesn’t feel like melodrama either.

Super interesting story, there’s really nothing else like it.

Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

Okay i think this gonna be really really good. Investing now.

Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

Pure yurikino.

Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

Oh I'm so fucking hype that this is back, the new chapter is already so good. So many points of interest all at once. A lesser harem type story wouldn't get to all these thigns in 4 volumes. And here they are running up against each other all in one chapter!!

Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

Did not like the ending, I could see they were going for a statement on love and sacrifice, but it played poorly with all the little things that made the manga great. A lot of what the story spent time on was getting used to the little quirks of your lover, so to just erase her devil side felt at odds with what came before. The dramatic action didn’t have the measured groundedness and consequent intimacy that animated the manga, and almost felt like it was saying that kind of thing wasn’t important enough for a finale. The subtle hints of angel heritage felt a lot better than an explicit confirmation with full on flashback backstory. Sometimes things just work better in your setting notes and don’t have to be said.

I think the subtlety of this manga is part of what made it great, and with such a dramatic event, so much dust is kicked up that it obscures that strength. i really think we could have gotten a legendary ending using the same delicate care to tie everything together, and it would have been great. Honestly even leaving the story with the two of them partially cohabitating and lily going off to work may have been a better ending.

It makes me reflect for my own writing whether a standard dramatic action finale is even appropriate. You can justify it to yourself as an author by casting choices in the heat of the moment as a crystallization of all your characters’ discussion of love, but I wonder if it isn’t better to finish with the same strengths in writing that carried the story thus far. Much to consider.

Focusing on this part specifically:

A lot of what the story spent time on was getting used to the little quirks of your lover, so to just erase her devil side felt at odds with what came before.

Yeah that's one of the aspects I dislike the most about this ending, and I think you worded it well. A lot of the interesting narrative aspects for both Lily and her falling in love with a human was the elements of her devil side, and everything she had to deal with there. Plus those parts made their relationship uniquely fun. Un-Deviling her feels cheap in my opinion.

Agreeing with all of this but it doesn't really surprise me sadly.
Unfortunately a lot of these types of stories in general are very human-centric and end in the character "becoming human" in some way because that's viewed as the height of being a person which like...sucks?

It also results in the unfortunate implication of non-humans being "lesser" in some way than humanity which has always rubbed me the wrong way, this is also probably why there's a lot of weirdness around transhumanism but that's a whole different debate unrelated to this, all it really comes down to is a lot of authors unfortunately falling into "being like the majority good, being different bad"

I think the part that rubs me wrong, and I think encompasses some of what you’re talking about, is that in a relationship your partner’s troublesome traits or the ones that require some adjustment around do not simply go away. Learning how to deal with your partner’s disability or how the two of you can manage your respective traumas does not mean these things will go away. You will have to keep dealing with them, but now you’ve had that conversation, you have a gameplan. It’s part of the way that choosing to be with someone for life changes your life permanently. It’s part of what’s terrifying about committed relationships: it’s a commitment, it’s not always going to be easy or fun, and you have to keep putting in the work and it is inevitable that eventually, possibly quite soon, this person you’ve chosen to shape your life around will leave you, or you will leave them, one way or another. If you treat the traits of your partner as something to be fixed, that time will and should probably come very soon.

But it’s also part of the beauty of that arrangement! You gain this constant developing intimacy with a person who is different from yourself, who thinks and lives differently than you, and you get to be part of the changes in the life of this person you love.

I think this ending is bad because it violates the premise of the manga in a way that ultimately contracts it instead of expanding it. It compromises the verisimilitude and the interest that one of the traits that shapes this relationship is that one of the girls is half-demon. It’s a perfect example of taking a fantastic condition and treating it in a grounded way such that you can see any condition, even an impossible one, can be fit into a relationship if two people are committed to learning and growing together. But the ending is not in harmony with that, and not enough interest or poignancy was added to the story by its removal to justify Lily losing her demon nature.

Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

Did not like the ending, I could see they were going for a statement on love and sacrifice, but it played poorly with all the little things that made the manga great. A lot of what the story spent time on was getting used to the little quirks of your lover, so to just erase her devil side felt at odds with what came before. The dramatic action didn’t have the measured groundedness and consequent intimacy that animated the manga, and almost felt like it was saying that kind of thing wasn’t important enough for a finale. The subtle hints of angel heritage felt a lot better than an explicit confirmation with full on flashback backstory. Sometimes things just work better in your setting notes and don’t have to be said.

I think the subtlety of this manga is part of what made it great, and with such a dramatic event, so much dust is kicked up that it obscures that strength. i really think we could have gotten a legendary ending using the same delicate care to tie everything together, and it would have been great. Honestly even leaving the story with the two of them partially cohabitating and lily going off to work may have been a better ending.

It makes me reflect for my own writing whether a standard dramatic action finale is even appropriate. You can justify it to yourself as an author by casting choices in the heat of the moment as a crystallization of all your characters’ discussion of love, but I wonder if it isn’t better to finish with the same strengths in writing that carried the story thus far. Much to consider.

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Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

Yakou was so brave when she was standing up for herself to her sister! This was her worst nightmare before, but now she is boldly asserting herself because she know's she isnt alone anymore! It's so heartwarming!

I know I was vividly imagining how things would collapse with her sister behind her, it felt so crushing. It's such a relatable fear, getting exposed like that and destroyed socially and in the eyes of those you love. I almost couldn't read it. But I'm so glad I did, she was so strong, she faced her worst fear head-on and the world didn't end or anything, I'm so proud of her. I love how she had the strength to lay claim to her own desires, and point out that her sister was actually the one in the wrong for violating her privacy.

Aghhh I love this manga so much.

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Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

Insanely painful, thank you very much

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Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

ITS FUCKING BACK

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Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

SO unexpectedly sensual, I love this short and I’m glad it made it here

Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

People here have said the series is 20 chapters total, so it is indeed wrapping up.

I see! That's basically the perfect median point for my money. It absolutely makes sense for them to wrap things up, but 4 more chapters is a much nicer pace than 1 or 2. I'm really excited!

Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

(Ch.16) This was really awesome, I love how heartfelt this was. This is ground that has been tread in art for literally thousands of years, not to mention in yuri manga, but there I feel like it really gets across the feeling and the thought behind the experience of navigating love and learning to communicate. It’s almost like a charming and empathetic primer on how to communicate in relationships. And I love how Lily uses her past experiences with their relationship and the trust those have built to help push her forward. It’s adorable. And the sweetness of the artstyle really helps. The eroticism and that little spike of danger from that succubus element works so well with the extremely shoujo energy, it’s like lesbian alchemy. I’m reminded of that classic line “I like girly things, like girls.”

I really hope it doesn’t just fade to black on their intimacy for the next chapter, not just because I rly want to see it, but because I think treating sex as natural in a relationship would go really well with all the stuff this manga has been doing. I’m not knowledgeable enough about the yuri manga publishing situation to know if that’s likely, but some manga seem able to go to places that I wouldn’t expect something in their genre to be allowed to touch, and I’n really hoping that’s the case here.

Seems like the manga is winding down, and if it is I absolutely support that as an artistic decision. But as a reader, I really hope it keeps going a little longer. I adore this series and these characters.

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Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

Absolute manatsu victory

Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

This manga is so interesting so far, lots to dig your teeth into. I love introspective works about complicated feelings.