Shitposted too close to the sun...

At least MrEngenious was magnanimous enough to allow amnesty for existing shitposts.

Though yeah, it's way too easy to cross the line where it stops being funny to someone and starts being uncomfortable. That's why I limited myself to attributing an opinion that wouldn't get me banned if it were my real opinion. I laughed too though.

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Hanasaki Manio got a new manga out with a pretty similar vibe to this one.
It's called "I Like the You Who Bullies Me"

Hopefully I don't regret reading this, but if anything this is an even more aggressive start than Kitanai Kimi ga Ichiban Kawaii. The bullying scenes are like something out of To Not Die (https://www.webtoons.com/en/drama/to-not-die/episode-1/viewer?title_no=3787&episode_no=1) and we have the "victim" assertively peeing themselves in chapter 1. I think I can say that without it being a spoiler since that would get a watersports tag on here

oh no, it's ex-gf time

Oh yeah? I'm thinking it's Misa's mom whovh mean biiig trauma income. That's why she locked Io up in a panic.

nah it's her ex-lover. she showed up in a brief flashback ch17

It wasn't established whether it was her mom, her lover or someone else entirely. We can only hope it's not both, but, with this author, we can't rule anything out.

I feel there's three possible points people who defend Nanase miss:

Not quoting the entier post but the more backstory we got from Yuni and Fuuko, the more we got to understand them. Even though they act in a shitty way, we can at least understanding why they act that way. They both had difficult/traumatic experience and despite they awful action, they both have a lovely side. Fuuko is very caring and seems to truly love Yuni, and the way Yuni loves and cares for her mother is also very touching.

On the other side, Nanase is just super self-centered, and doesn't have anything good to balance that. So sure, she is not as bad, but she has nothing going for her, really. Honestly, she looks like a NPC with no inner thoughts. Enhanced why I think of her as just a plot device.

I think this is just to get us to empathize with Yuni more. A series were people cannot imagine themselves as the protagonist at all, even subconsciously, won't be successful.

Since Yuni is cheating, Nanase needs to feel like the worst and hardest to empathize with. At least, she needs to feel like the worst for Yuni. Otherwise people would just hate Yuni like they did early on and not continue with the series. Yuni and Fuuko don't need to feel "justified" to avoid that, but readers need to sympathize with them the most to balance out the discomfort caused by their misdeeds.

Nanase is loved by the volleyball team so, logically, she can't be all bad. They've made it amply clear they appreciate Nanase and enjoy spending time with Nanase even outside of sports. We don't see what Nanase does to make the team like her so much because this story is POV Yuni. The social dynamic around the team is a weird disaster like phenomenon that makes no sense to Yuni.

Even though we've been shown enough to understand Nanase has a positive impact on some people, the way the story is written makes the sports social dynamics feel like a natural disaster to the reader too. That is one well written aspect of this story.

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Nanase is horrible but in a very mundane way. It’s not her fault she’s just a bit of an idiot fratboy cursed to be a lesbian who let’s be honest are usually pretty insane. She wouldn’t be like an officer or anything but if it came down to it Nanase would probably be a Nazi

That uh sure took a twist

It's even harder to stop myself from posting fan fiction Nanase going on fascist adjacent "just asking questions" rants while pretending to be clueless than it was to avoid ball jokes.

Anyway this is now canon. Sorry everyone. Nanase is alt-right. As we speak, is probably posting some screed online about how affirmative action is discriminatory and people should earn sports scholarships through own effort if they want to get ahead.

There's a reason why we don't see Nanase's twitter account.

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Yuni really hates balls. The jokes write themselves, so I won't do so.

Totally possible that Nanase just did not even register her as a person until middle school and Yuki thought they were besties cuz Nanase defended her from bullies.

Given Nanase's personality, I could see it being the case that she would not remember what was a very big deal for Yuki. I believe this is the real explanation.

Yuki unmasking makes me think we are near the end. It's abrupt for her to suddenly do it with no set up after many years of masking, but it would fit if we are wrapping up.

They could end this next chapter and it would be a better set up than so many yuri, so it ending in the next few chapters wouldn't surprise me. It's been a good run. We just need a little setup for Yuni to rescue Fuuko rather than continuing with Yuni's passive self defeating behavior.

It's the second most wholesome pee arc after Yuri SM de Futari no Kimochi wa Tsunagarimasu ka?.

And here we having a loving callback to the day Io peed herself in front of Misa, leading to their current relationship. The difference is that, this time, Misa is the one asking Io to pee herself and thereby demonstrating the strength of their relationship.

Okay, even I'm not totally sold here, but it probably makes sense to anyone who likes pee as much as the author and Misa seemingly do. Otherwise it was a cute chapter. Of course Misa shouldn't do this long term without breaks, but I'll be surprised if she intends such.

Seeing the dog's reaction to Rachael will be interesting. Either the dog will be afraid of her or else the dog will be very impressed with this super dog who stands above wolves.

I was thinking of reading the LN of this it's up to three volumes so far. But I heard by the third volume they're is basically some weird ass love pentagram with a bunch of people and that kinda put me off on it so I'll pass on that for now lol.

If that's true, I'm likely not to keep reading it. This type of thing is rarely executed well. Usually "dueling love interests" happens because the author is not going to develop the character and relationship of the main interests and resorts to throwing in some external conflict from another surface level character.

So far it's been well written, so I'll stick around to see where the comic ends up for now.

Yeah I can't think of a young female manga/anime character that's neither good looking nor cute in design without being a joke or parody character. Regardless of how "plain" a female character in manga/anime is, they're always at least "cute". (Though isn't that kinda true in reality as well?)

Sal Jiang has some designs that fall into what I'd consider "probably only visually appealing to a select audience", but then again, they're all emphatically adult characters.

I can only think of adult characters who are meant to look tough or senior citizens who are sometimes literally grandmas.

Part of this is because what's used to differentiate female and male characters are cutesty stuff like big eyelashes, whereas male characters usually have no eyelashes. At some point red cheeks like wearing blush became very common, often lips are red like wearing lipstick even if it's implausible for them to wear lipstick (eg Balsa in Moribito)*, eg. People usually take these "fashionable" cues as a sign that they're meant to seem attractive, even though, without them, they would not seem like female characters to people at all.

Likewise, with male cross dressers who are drawn femininely, they will lack the lipstick (unless they actually wear lipstick) and big eyelashes. I kind of hate this. It's like a lower level of anthropomorphic animals where the male characters look animals and the female characters are cat girls, lizards that implausibly have breasts, etc. I wish female characters could have a "default" appearance too where appropriate.

In the past, they would sometimes put giant swirly glasses on the female characters to hide their face if they were meant to be ugly, because they had no idea how to actually make them ugly. I think manga artists have gotten a little better at this since then, as they've come up with cues like what people are talking about in the thread.

*Incidentally, she has opportunities to buy lipstick. If we saw her doing it then I wouldn't really have an issue here, as it would be some characterization that she cares about more than fighting where this is a hobby for her. We're however given no indication she has this type of priority when it comes lipstick where she'd seek it out even while living roughly.

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Now that I quit reading, it's very funny to see these super serious discussions about social and societal significance of cucking. I realize the irony here.

A lot of fetishes aren't for everyone, but in most cases when someone sees fetish content that isn't for them they just move on by to find something that they actually like, but for some reason NTR specifically seems to make people so enraged that they feel the need to loudly proclaim their hatred of the media it's creators, and it's audience.

I'm not sure this is true. Eg, furries, so called 'lolicon', and more elicit a lot of anger online. NTR may still be a lot closer to what a lot of people are afraid of experiencing. Especially for men, for many of whom perceived "demasculation" would be a very a real safety concern.

It's been established that people subconsciously treat fiction like they're experiencing what the protagonist does, so it's not surprising when we get these reactions to this. We see something similar with non-sexual social humiliation, eg, re:zero anime season 1, where a subset of people get very very angry in a way they can't explain logically.

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"hideous primal instinct" that's right, ain't no one wanna deal with that ever, nuh-uh, no ma'am

Well, I think she's right most people wouldn't want to deal with a partner who is barely restraining themselves from killing you. That's the implication of taking mana from someone dealing with mana sickness.

It explains a lot of Rachae's behavior. We see that she is responsible, so, for instance, if it had been a full moon she might have run away instead of taking care of Lin Xiya. Lin Xiya wouldn't literally die from being left alone with mana sickness, so it would be a reasonable choice from Rachael. However, from the other perspective, it would seem like Rachael abandoning her in her time of need.

Likewise, Rachael doesn't speak kindly a lot of the time because she doesn't feel she is acting kindly. She has a mental block around "acting like a nice person" toward Lin Xiya because Rachael would feel hypocritical. Rachael has even killed a lot of people, which doesn't usually get taken seriously in these types of stories, but in real life people often have some level of trauma over that. Even if we disregard the war trauma angle, it makes sense she is dealing with a lot of guilt over her behavior.

Ah. The "cowardly" ending. Leaving a whole bunch of stuff "up to interpretation" because they were afraid to either have Takahashi eat Itou (Which would be creepy as fuck) or confirm that Takahashi actually saw Itou as more than a meal (Which would actually make this yuri)

I'm surprised the author was actually planning on the kill Itou ending and only chickened out because they also got attached to the yuri.

On a second read, she's actually a much more complicated character than I thought. It says a lot that she wants Fuuko to live alone and die alone, almost like she wants her to share in her suffering.

I was getting that sense in past updates too. She at least wishes Fuuko would make her Fuuko's number one and was dissapointed Fuuko didn't seek her out. We see her repeatedly asking Fuuko if Fuuko loves her this update, while knowing Fuuko is still carrying a torch for Fuuko's first love. Mashiro also liked how impressed with and focused on Mashiro Fuuko was when younger.

This chapter we get her whole love ideology, where Mashiro thinks it's impossible for her to love or be loved. That explains all this behavior. With love off the table, she'd like to monopolize Fuuko as much as possible. Fuuko getting involved with someone else is acceptable as long as Fuuko comes back to Mashiro in the end, but Mashiro took action because that wasn't happening this time. She is pursuing what she thinks is the deepest and most meaningful connection she can have with someone.

@ Mugino

So, what an eyeball taste like?

Only one way for you to find out.

I thought that at first too, though I figured out it wasn't a while back. It was somewhat confusing.

I don't know how I would have known what it was about either way prior to reading the chapters.

Nor do I have especially refined tastes when I'm reading stories like Bing Jiao Meimei Zhi Xiang Rang Wo Qifu Ta / The Yandere Sister Just Wants Me to Bully Her (https://mangadex.org/title/0663677e-a1a4-42b0-9422-c9f4ee53364d/the-yandere-sister-just-wants-me-to-bully-her). This includes plotlines like where the MCs future version of her current girlfriend returns to the past from a timeline where the MC is dead and attempts to steal the MC from her past self. Rather ridiculous ideas like this have real consequences in universe, while we're given more reason to care how the characters are impacted. I don't get anything out of sexual content without that level of emotional engagement in what's happening.

Similarly There's No Way I Could Date My Fave! (https://dynasty-scans.com/series/theres_no_way_i_could_date_my_fave) is a low stakes comedy where the storyline doesn't make too much sense, but there are some very well executed jokes and character interactions that keep it engaging. Therefore I can also enjoy a low stakes comedy if the comedy part is well executed beyond short term gags. The comedy in this one did not draw me in in the same way.

I think this is just a matter of preference. I don't find it especially disruptive to dislike the early chapters, say so, and then stop reading. But no reason for me to keep beating a dead horse, as it were. It's good you all like it.

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As an adult that's well versed in a lot of stories I still found these 3 chapters entertaining, though maybe it'll become too dark and violent for me down the road. I don't think everything has to be complex and deep, there's room for a variety and sometimes a simple raunchy dark comedy is fine.

To be fair, you are an adult who's not reading a low tier het harem manga. Never said this was that bad.

On the other hand, I will say the shaky charecterization and plot elements may be a thinly veiled excuse for the author to self insert themselves into their sexual fantasies toward managa characters. In retrospect, "manga artist tries out their fantasies on a conventially attractive female character" is rather blatant.

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A lot of those are aimed at teenagers who haven't gotten tired of that yet because it's new-to-them. That is both boring and an excellent business strategy. Plus it's not like it's easy to write flat characters if you're not an experienced writer, so people have to start somewhere.

It's however not like we're rolling in in series similar to this one like we are with low tier het vanilla harem manga, so I can't blame anyone for not being bored of it yet. I certainly haven't seen another yuri story about an otaku beating up a group of gyaru bullies and forcing the gyaru MC to play out the otaku's defiled night fantasies and similar.

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three chapters to this point makes me think that the characterization will be entirely surface-level to put all the focus on the actual fetish at play. Which, more power to those that enjoy it, but I'm a touch surprised the author's not leaning harder into overt NSFW stuff like actual nudity, given the "plot" is basically "nerd beats up bully and sexually abuses her into a relationship".
Unless actual depth gets added to their characters at some point, I don't see this going far on a gimmick based around sexual violence with only implied lewdness and nothing more...feels like the stakes would have to be raised in some capacity to prevent it going stale, and each character is flat-enough that I don't know if banking on an actual narrative being the driving force is wise.

I have a similar impression. We go straight into MC being beat up with no setup and the story continues like that. It's hard for me to invested in what's happening, even though I could imagine the scenes working as part of a larger narrative.

The traits that are more unique are not even taken seriously. We are getting some serial killer level of obsession from Odagiri and team gyaru was laughing it off like some random trait. I assume there will be some minor development where they start liking each other more and the pretense for why they're doing it eventually matters less. That still reads as low on the priority list.

Maybe it's just preference here. However, I've read stories where much less extreme situations felt more impactful, as well as ones where equally extreme situations where treated more seriously by the narrative. The comparison to hentai style stories, where the characters and story don't really matter and which I don't like reading, is apt. If someone wants not-hentai sexual violence gags then they'll like this.

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The author, Chise, is purely a writer. The artists assigned to her works have lots of flaws. The Bully one is fine with people; this artist has left out people's legs.

the artist in this particular manhua does seem to be taking shortcuts whenever possible. I actually really like their particular art style at least in places where they're remotely trying.

Agreed. It may not be "good," but they pull through when it really matters in terms of character expressions and the like. I never had trouble telling what's going on and felt the mood was communicated.

I'm not a big fan of CGI, but such is life nowadays. At least it's not AI drawings.

is this worth reading? i hate cheating yuri

don't read it

They were certainly trying to give the appearance of being able to do everything effortlessly, while expending a lot of effort to survive and while using tricks to make it seem like they could do more than they could.

It's similar to what a magician dose. They know some cool tricks, but it would be nowhere near as impressive if you knew what they were doing. If you then get rid of their setup and sabotage their tricks, they wouldn't look impressive at all.

"Can appear to do anything as long as long as it's not raining, ..." (add long list of situations where super bugs aren't useful).

Someone like Takahashi outclasses them quite a lot when it comes to power levels, which may be part of why they are so sneaky and deceptive.

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a.) If Mr. N is a (basically nanomachine) shapeshifter, why does it need to pour bugs into Hiraizumi? It can just copy the girl's shape, right? Shapeshifter ≠ corpse puppeteer.

I interpreted this as a single bug that will reproduce, consume the body, and form a new hive mind. If so, the original hive had already consumed its body. It also could have been multiple bugs implanted, akin to a hive split. Regardless, the new body had its own personality and was more naive, so it should be understood as a new hive and not the same consciousness.

Instead of a hive mind, there also could be a queen type bug commanding the other ones and this is what got implanted. The point here is that we can come up with lots of possible explanations, even if it was never clearly explained in the story. If we had had more chapters, we might have gotten more signaling and fewer unexplained details.

I think it would be more satisfying if the facade had gradually failed over time and we saw more inconsistencies in their act, instead of Itou's brain growing proportionally bigger to the speed with which the story needs to end and figuring everything out suddenly.

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