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Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

I enjoyed this new chapter, I'm really looking forward to the next.

@Nez You're really not helping your case at all.

@FluffyCow I'm just not going to respond when the first thing you call me is a troll just because I have a differing opinion than you. It's childish. You can scrape whatever ooze you want from the corner of the pages and call it "progress" but yet here we are back to status quo with nothing to show that the 15 chapters of drama was worth it.

I'd like to clear this up. I said you're starting to come across as a troll because your responses and specifically your wording really feels like you're trying to bait people into an argument. Also the main red flag for me was your comment saying how the mods ban people here for having an opinion that's different than the majority, that's one of the most common and obvious signs a person is trolling in from my experiences on forums. That's usually something a person says before they get banned for being hostile, then they blame the mods and claim to hold no responsibility for their own actions. I for one think the mods here are fantastic and much more so than most forums I've been on. I love Nez.

I want to make it clear to everyone that I do not think anyone is trolling for having different opinions. I welcome different opinions and a variety of different view points. I don't want to be in an echo chamber, so even if I disagree with an opinion that's different than my own I can usually at least respect it. Unless people come across as blatantly hostile and mean, that's my major exception.

I don't know if I'm getting baited into a response by you "Yuri Queen", but I really don't want to argue with you or anyone so this is my final response to you. I wish you no ill will and I hope you live a good life, have a nice day.

joined Apr 25, 2017

Pedophilia is not that bad, change my mind.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

There’s a little game people (often people with reasonable or at least arguable positions) run on the internet called, “If you react to my tone, I win.”

Enjoy your win.

Yuu
joined Mar 28, 2015

Because some misunderstandings got out of the way, they can (re)start their relationship on different basis. I think that even if they aren't dating, or are still just "friends", they understand and know where each other stand better.

Is this considered progress?

joined Jul 26, 2016

TBF Ririha didn't really even do all that much. She gave them a speculative prod or two and they pretty much proceeded to fall over their own insecurities and anxieties. Upside being they ended up doing some necessary soul-searching over the nature of their relationship.

That said, Ririha herself seems to be pretty confused by how easily they're forgiving her. I guess it mostly boils down to Mimika being a bit odd in general and Kade running on a somewhat idiosyncratic set of values?

Satchmo_Omega
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joined Feb 26, 2018

I don't know what sort of consequences Ririha could face other than being shunned by Kaede and Mimika which would put her out of the story. I think Mimika is forgiving because sympathises with Ririha's motive of wanting to be with Kaede.

joined Feb 21, 2018

I don't know what sort of consequences Ririha could face other than being shunned by Kaede and Mimika which would put her out of the story. I think Mimika is forgiving because sympathises with Ririha's motive of wanting to be with Kaede.

Except she never learned that. She forgave her before being told why Ririha did what she did. Which is just disappointing. I hate the trope of good people forgiving horrible people and the rewarding them for it.

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

It's fascinating how you easily impressionable sensitive snowflakes really do think elaborating on a point is the equivalent to "baiting" or "trolling". What even is "baiting into an argument"? You're here, in a FORUM, to discuss and fuel argumentation in the first place, aren't you? Whether you approve of others' manner of structuring their arguments or not is none of their business and thus you are the one who has to put up with it, if their posts are not throwing playground insults at you out of nowhere, of course. It's like every post ever has to pander to your exact standards of what's acceptable or not, otherwise it's ultimately invalid, goddamn.

Have we actually seen them bloom out of their status quo, like Queen has pointed out? No. Do I, personally-not-the-objective-truth-please-don't-ban-me-not-a-troll, consider this progress? Not in the sense that their relationship moved forward, since it actually just recovered from that 20 something chapters conflict simply to go back to exactly where it was in the beginning. If anything, the other loli was the one who got some development, which sadly is irrelevant to me because I am not reading this for her; out of her maliciousness it seemed to me that all she got was rewarded, she learned her lesson and still ended up benefiting from it. Maybe we'll get more chapters about Yuzumori's situation at home with her absent parents, maybe more fluff moments between her and Mimika without much thought provoking themes for a while. I would enjoy that.

I think you have completely valid points, you're probably right that Queen also has good points. I do not normally think people expanding on their opinions is trolling or baiting, but in this specific context I thought Queen's attitude was hostile, especially with as I said the mod comment, if I jumped the gun and completely read Queen's tone and intention wrong I sincerely apologize. I don't mind you critiquing my character, but I rather you not refer to me as a snowflake please. It's hard to understand someone's attitude through text on a forum. There seems to be a good amount of people that don't think any progress was made, so maybe I'm wrong in my opinion. However I'm still personally pretty happy with the progress of the series, but I do hope the people that are like Queen and yourself will get more development that you desire. At the end of the day I just want everyone to get along and hopefully enjoy the manga.

Also I thought my last comment was ending things in a non-hostile manner but I guess people took that as me pulling an "I win" card, that wasn't my intention and I only wanted to stop arguing. I apologize.

last edited at Mar 9, 2018 3:49AM

joined Jun 21, 2017

So I was wondering if the chapter page could get properly organised?

Volume 1 - 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8.1
Volume 2 - 8,9,10,11,12,13,13.5
Volume 3 - 14,15,16,16.2,17,18.1,18.2,19,19.5
Volume 4 - 20,21,21.2,22,23,24,25,26
Volume 5 - 27,28,29,30,31.1,31.2,32,33
Extras - 0.1,0.2,0.3,8.2,8.3,8.5,9.5

The chapters for Vol.1,2,3 can be seen in the contents pages from the Amazon page, and Vol.4 I saw it mentioned on /u/ and then downloaded it myself to check.

I suppose putting 0.1,0.2,0.3 as Volume 0 could make sense because they're "Special Teaser"s (so maybe renaming them: Chapter 0.X -> Special Teaser X), and putting 8.2 and 8.3 at the very end of Volume 1 could also work because as far as I know they were in-store exclusives with Volume 1, but I still think putting the latter as Extras is best. But 8.5 and 9.5 are basically just advertising so should really be put as Extras and possibly renamed to reflect this.

Also as having 8.1 before 8.0 is ridiculous it should be renamed and then while we're at it 13.5 and 19.5 should be renamed too:
Chapter 8.1 -> Volume 1 Extra Episode. Prize. [OR] Extra Episode. Prize. 1 [OR] Extra Episode. Prize.
Chapter 13.5 -> Volume 2 Extra Episode. Prize. [OR] Extra Episode. Prize. 2 [OR] Extra Episode. Prize.
Chapter 19.5 -> Volume 3 Extra Episode. Prize. [OR] Extra Episode. Prize. 3 [OR] Extra Episode. Prize.

and also maybe:
Chapter 8.2 -> Bonus Comic 1
Chapter 8.3 -> Bonus Comic 2
Chapter 8.5 -> Tankōbon PR 1
Chapter 9.5 -> Tankōbon PR 2

Then finally, this one is completely and utterly unnecessary and personal preference:
Chapter 16.2 -> Chapter 16 (Latter Part)
Chapter 18.1 -> Chapter 18 (Former Part)
Chapter 18.2 -> Chapter 18 (Latter Part)
Chapter 21.2 -> Chapter 21(Latter Part)
Chapter 27.1 -> Chapter 27 (Former Part)
Chapter 27.2 -> Chapter 27 (Latter Part)
Chapter 31.1 -> Chapter 31 (Former Part)
Chapter 31.2 -> Chapter 31 (Latter Part)

last edited at Mar 26, 2018 9:08AM

joined Dec 10, 2017

If someone does organize the chapters, please keep the extras in the order that they appear in the books. It’s annoying when the extras are all at the bottom because then I don’t know what order to read them in.

Yuu
joined Mar 28, 2015

http://yawaspi.com/comic/yuzumori/pc/041/041_001_09.jpg The one initiating the almost kiss and the one refusing it are not who you expected

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joined Feb 9, 2016

applauses for mangaka and for Mimika
Time skip nao, onegai shimasu!

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joined Dec 16, 2014

Yuzumori is top. Aye

joined Jan 11, 2018

And just like that she saves it by realizing she is just a child and they both need to wait.

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joined Jul 13, 2016

Is the shadowy figure on the last page mimika+yuzumori or someone else? .-.

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joined Sep 1, 2017

so cute, but I'm not sure how much futher it can go without crossing into forbidden territory.

Avatar_2018_dynasty
joined Oct 26, 2016

I don't understand why online people have to make a huge deal out of everything every time

Well...

It's fascinating how you easily impressionable sensitive snowflakes really do think elaborating on a point is the equivalent to "baiting" or "trolling".

Just talk about how you'd like to self-insert into Yuzumori without the repercussions of real life implications and involved ethical issues around it or something. Let others be. Even if they're wrong or crude.

It's like every post ever has to pander to your exact standards of what's acceptable or not, otherwise it's ultimately invalid, goddamn.

Do I, personally-not-the-objective-truth-please-don't-ban-me-not-a-troll, consider this progress?

Accuses others of making a huge deal out of everything. Then pulls the 'snowflake' card while going on a rant on how their view is the correct objective one and how everyone else should accept it but it's being stifled and labeled as 'invalid' for not conforming to the standard due to pandering.

If you want objective discussion is it really that hard to say 'I don't like this here are my viewpoints backed by events that occur in the work and why they make me dislike it' without all the attacking and accusing people and making it into this huge deal?

I can't say I entirely disagree. They naturally would understand and know where each other better, indeed. I believe my main complaint stands on the amount of time invested in the conflict and the no backlash consequences Ririha did not have to face.

This is discussion content. To the point, voices your viewpoint, completely reasonable and fair criticism, without being inflammatory.

Anyways, now that it has fully returned the plot back to pre-drama content hopefully we can finally see more development. It would be nice if it stops here and jumps a few years into the future so we can move past the whole 'too young' block on development.

last edited at Mar 21, 2018 1:35AM

joined Feb 1, 2013

The new chapter was great for sooo many reasons: When Yuzumori says "I wan't you all to myself" to Mimika- hghhhh! And the facial expression when she said. Not just that, there were a whole bunch of great facial expressions and lines in this latest chapter. I can't wait to see where the story goes from here!

joined Feb 1, 2013

Yuzumori is top. Aye

Yeah, it's pretty incredible that this little girl is such a perfect natural top at 10-yrs-old. XD

F4x-3lwx0aa0tcu31
joined Apr 20, 2013

Very cute confession, she needs a lot of determination and patience... also how long will she wait ? until Yuzumori is 14? until Mimika turns 18? until Yuzu turns 16? when they're both 18+?
The next chapter might bring joy or ruin ... We can time skip and see them happy or we can introduce some evil character who is evil just for the sake of being evil, like El Hermano- sorry! bad joke... what I meant to say was maybe Yuzu's mother? that character who lets her child alone for so long and probable doesn't even know about her friends or love? she doesn't have to be evil, but I doubt she will be nice.

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joined Aug 10, 2015

The next chapter might bring joy or ruin ... We can time skip and see them happy or we can introduce some evil character who is evil just for the sake of being evil, like El Hermano

this plebs everybody knows that gohan blanco already defeat el hermano to save shaggy

last edited at Mar 21, 2018 2:22AM

joined Dec 10, 2017

According to Dumbnut, this latest chapter is likely the second to last chapter. I really hope this isn’t true because I want to learn more about the characters and see a time skip.

Pout2
joined Mar 7, 2017

Alright looks like I can take the FBI off of speed dial.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

Between this and Bright and Cheery Amnesia, fireworks displays are getting pretty lewd these days.

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joined Jun 3, 2017

Hopefully, Ejima Eri won't come up with something that involves a time skip. What I like about this story is how well she plays with what can be done and whatnot, and the cuteness that comes out of Mimika and Yuzumori's interaction because of their age and the self-imposed restrictions. If she suddenly jumps to a time where everything is acceptable, "Yuzumori-san" won't be different from most of age-gap stories.

edited: (unless, of course, next chapter is the final chapter)

last edited at Mar 21, 2018 5:29AM

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