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really best friends.

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joined Feb 21, 2019

Or she could be the rarely-if-ever portrayed asexual lesbian and being thrown off by the tired old love = sexual desire bullshit. As if romance has to involve sex.

The Puritans got your back.

Ya’ll really can’t understand the concept of someone not being horny all the time, sad

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joined Oct 27, 2011

Or she could be the rarely-if-ever portrayed asexual lesbian and being thrown off by the tired old love = sexual desire bullshit. As if romance has to involve sex.

The Puritans got your back.

Ya’ll really can’t understand the concept of someone not being horny all the time, sad

"Not being horny all the time" isn't asexual definition at all. Asexual from my point of view is a zero tolerence for sexual act. It's very different

joined Jan 3, 2020

Or she could be the rarely-if-ever portrayed asexual lesbian and being thrown off by the tired old love = sexual desire bullshit. As if romance has to involve sex.

The Puritans got your back.

Ya’ll really can’t understand the concept of someone not being horny all the time, sad

No, it's real easy to understand conceptually, but it is pretty hard to relate to. Though you can say the same thing for almost any category in the LGBT+ spectrum if you aren't also in the same category.

Anyway, I totally think the author could go an asexual route here, and it would be fine if they did. However, I suspect she's just running from the real problem in her case, which is that she has a load of trauma from bad romantic experiences.

The dream bit at the end shows that she still does have lustful thoughts, but she just immediately gets defensive and starts telling herself she can't do it. She's sort of been conditioned to respond to both physical and emotional love with hostility because in the past it has only brought her misery.

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joined Oct 22, 2018

Or she could be the rarely-if-ever portrayed asexual lesbian and being thrown off by the tired old love = sexual desire bullshit. As if romance has to involve sex.

The Puritans got your back.

Ya’ll really can’t understand the concept of someone not being horny all the time, sad

"Not being horny all the time" isn't asexual definition at all. Asexual from my point of view is a zero tolerence for sexual act. It's very different

Not really. I'm not ace myself, but ace people only don't experience sexual attraction. They can still engage in or even enjoy sexual acts.

Credit for me knowing this goes to r/AskReddit.

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joined Aug 31, 2017

LESBIAN FRIEND
Join the battle!

thank god for this btw.
i don't got the ace vibe, but thats kinda nice too. sweet

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joined Jul 29, 2017

I keep forgetting how dark (to her) Hinako’s backstory is, and as the chapters go on I think about her as the usual useless lesbian who just needs to get clued in about her feelings. But then I recall how bereft and despairing Hinako was when Shiho found her on the street and realize she’s not going to simply go, “Oh, I’m gay! So I’m going to go for it with Shiho!”

She starts out thinking of herself as a “defective human,” and that doesn’t just go away overnight.

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joined Oct 27, 2011

Or she could be the rarely-if-ever portrayed asexual lesbian and being thrown off by the tired old love = sexual desire bullshit. As if romance has to involve sex.

The Puritans got your back.

Ya’ll really can’t understand the concept of someone not being horny all the time, sad

"Not being horny all the time" isn't asexual definition at all. Asexual from my point of view is a zero tolerence for sexual act. It's very different

Not really. I'm not ace myself, but ace people only don't experience sexual attraction. They can still engage in or even enjoy sexual acts.

Credit for me knowing this goes to r/AskReddit.

I might meet somes extreme cases of ace then. They really have zero tolerance for sexual act, and this is not something post traumatic like, total natural. If you force them to, they found it disgusting and prefer to avoid it, even how hard they love your body and want to touch your parts. But it just stop at cuddling, and end. I dont know if someone who doesn't experience sexual attraction but does enjoy sexual acts can firmly call themself ace. I just can't class them on ace representative, i might say that they have low libido, but that's all.

last edited at Sep 29, 2020 4:02PM

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joined Mar 25, 2019

This author is really really talented, I haven’t disliked a single one of their works. And this series is just so refreshing. In a sea of samey stories, this slow and quiet story about coworkers falling in love somehow just hits different.

last edited at Sep 29, 2020 4:00PM

joined Jul 26, 2016

TL;DR - Subaru is all tsun an' shiet towards Fuuka because the latter A) pines for Asahi (so Subaru's chances are poor to begin with) B) apparently fills the resulting emotional void with lots of casual relationships (not including Subaru) C) refuses to view her as more than BFF's cute lil' sis, friend and sort of honorary sibling.

No shit she acts all exasperated and prickly, the kid's stuck in a very frustrating unrequited crush.

Subaru
joined Jul 31, 2019

I can't believe so many people seem to subscribe to this Subaru crush theory. I dunno, maybe I'm dense, but all I'm seeing is being extremely annoyed at an old friend of the older sister which now only visits them once in a blue moon.

Like, it's not that weird that younger kids like people that behave all cutesy and friendly, but Subaru now "smartened up" and sees through that shit immediately. Subaru changed, Fuuka did not, she just wants to have a romantic relationship with Asahi, she admitted to that herself when talking to Hinako. Subaru also very much doesn't like being reminded about how much Asahi sacrifices herself for her, she already expressed that sentiment multiple times in previous chapters.

I honestly don't see anything supporting that theory... but who knows. I'm certainly eagerly awaiting the next chapter, as you all do, to see how it pans out.

last edited at Sep 29, 2020 5:06PM

Capturedsfdsss_x213
joined Mar 16, 2018

I can't believe so many people seem to subscribe to this Subaru crush theory. I dunno, maybe I'm dense, but all I'm seeing is being extremely annoyed at an old friend of the older sister which now only visits them once in a blue moon.

Like, it's not that weird that younger kids like people that behave all cutesy and friendly, but Subaru now "smartened up" and sees through that shit immediately. Subaru changed, Fuuka did not, she just wants to have a romantic relationship with Asahi, she admitted to that herself when talking to Hinako. Subaru also very much doesn't like being reminded about how much Asahi sacrifices herself for her, she already expressed that sentiment multiple times in previous chapters.

I honestly don't see anything supporting that theory... but who knows. I'm certainly eagerly awaiting the next chapter, as you all do, to see how it pans out.

Really? For me I got the whiff of it in the last page of chapter 9 when Fuuka came to the door
Subaru was flustered and trying to fix her hair before opening the door
In my point of view Subaru has changed and wants Fuuka to recognize her as a woman and not just the kid sister of the girl she has the hots for. Fuuka being really ephemeral about her relationships making it that much harder for Subaru to get a leg in.
I dunno it could very be what you just described so I guess only time will tell

joined Jan 5, 2020

Or she could be the rarely-if-ever portrayed asexual lesbian and being thrown off by the tired old love = sexual desire bullshit. As if romance has to involve sex.

The Puritans got your back.

Ya’ll really can’t understand the concept of someone not being horny all the time, sad

"Not being horny all the time" isn't asexual definition at all. Asexual from my point of view is a zero tolerence for sexual act. It's very different

Zero interest in sexual acts. We can still have sex, we just don’t have desire for it.

Subaru
joined Jul 31, 2019

I honestly don't see anything supporting that theory... but who knows. I'm certainly eagerly awaiting the next chapter, as you all do, to see how it pans out.

Really? For me I got the whiff of it in the last page of chapter 9 when Fuuka came to the door
Subaru was flustered and trying to fix her hair before opening the door

I mean, when all we had is that one panel at the end of a chapter then maybe that was a possibility, but after the next one it's pretty clear to me that's the face of "oh no not her again". People get uncomfortable for more reasons than having a crush on a person :P

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joined Feb 23, 2016

Suddenly this comment section got so serious

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joined Aug 18, 2015

I'd like to see this be some good ace rep. I just don't expect it to.

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joined Oct 27, 2011

Or she could be the rarely-if-ever portrayed asexual lesbian and being thrown off by the tired old love = sexual desire bullshit. As if romance has to involve sex.

The Puritans got your back.

Ya’ll really can’t understand the concept of someone not being horny all the time, sad

"Not being horny all the time" isn't asexual definition at all. Asexual from my point of view is a zero tolerence for sexual act. It's very different

Zero interest in sexual acts. We can still have sex, we just don’t have desire for it.

This make me think a lots. It's very interesting, yet very puzzling. I try hard to dig deep into how you can enjoys someting yet not have any desire for it, without being on the puritans side.

joined Jul 1, 2018

I'd like to see this be some good ace rep. I just don't expect it to.

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I feel like this is going more a Bloom into You route. To me, it seems like Hinako is scared about what it means to love someone, based off of her past experiences (or trauma). Though we could still have ace representation with Asahi, who seems to never have even been interested in a sexual relationship. We don't really know much about how she feels, whether she's had attractions to others and kept them to herself (highly unlikely imo), or she really doesn't understand how it feels to love someone romantically ( she could be a-romantic for all we know). I honestly think that this romance is just going to take all the time it needs to develop properly, though an ace relationship is something that I would for sure like to see somewhere.

joined Aug 21, 2017

"Which one?" lmao

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joined Aug 21, 2013

Or she could be the rarely-if-ever portrayed asexual lesbian and being thrown off by the tired old love = sexual desire bullshit. As if romance has to involve sex.

The Puritans got your back.

Ya’ll really can’t understand the concept of someone not being horny all the time, sad

"Not being horny all the time" isn't asexual definition at all. Asexual from my point of view is a zero tolerence for sexual act. It's very different

Zero interest in sexual acts. We can still have sex, we just don’t have desire for it.

This make me think a lots. It's very interesting, yet very puzzling. I try hard to dig deep into how you can enjoys someting yet not have any desire for it, without being on the puritans side.

I mean sexuality is a spectrum, so not every asexual person will have the same feelings about sex.
And I don’t know if this analogy would make sense, but it’s kind of like a person who doesn’t necessarily like desserts, but can still enjoy eating a slice of cake once in a while.

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joined Oct 27, 2011

I mean sexuality is a spectrum, so not every asexual person will have the same feelings about sex.
And I don’t know if this analogy would make sense, but it’s kind of like a person who doesn’t necessarily like desserts, but can still enjoy eating a slice of cake once in a while.

I thought for a while that your exemple is more plausible and clearer, but when i rethink about it, there are a big loop here:
Should we considering ace is a part of sexuality spectrum, or totally outside?
I think this point is the one that make ace confusing. A-sexual is the negative form of sexual so it should not be considering something inside of sexuality spectrum. If it is inside, it should be other name, but not ace.

last edited at Sep 30, 2020 5:12AM

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joined Oct 22, 2018

I mean sexuality is a spectrum, so not every asexual person will have the same feelings about sex.
And I don’t know if this analogy would make sense, but it’s kind of like a person who doesn’t necessarily like desserts, but can still enjoy eating a slice of cake once in a while.

I thought for a while that your exemple is more plausible and clearer, but when i rethink about it, there are a big loop here:
Should we considering ace is a part of sexuality spectrum, or totally outside?
I think this point is the one that make ace confusing. A-sexual is the negative form of sexual so it should not be considering something inside of sexuality spectrum. If it is inside, it should be other name, but not ace.

Language is weird, making supposedly strict rules, and at least as many exepcions.

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joined Oct 27, 2011

Should we considering ace is a part of sexuality spectrum, or totally outside?
I think this point is the one that make ace confusing. A-sexual is the negative form of sexual so it should not be considering something inside of sexuality spectrum. If it is inside, it should be other name, but not ace.

Language is weird, making supposedly strict rules, and at least as many exepcions.

By this question instead of critic how language are used wrongly, i want to say that we might miss the real spectrum of a-sexuality, and some obscure part of sexuality spectrum that mingle with ace spectrum. So a lot more room to explore

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joined Jun 5, 2015

m_nguyen_chau posted:

Zero interest in sexual acts. We can still have sex, we just don’t have desire for it.

I try hard to dig deep into how you can enjoys someting yet not have any desire for it, without being on the puritans side.

They said "have" not "enjoy". Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you enjoy it. Imagine eating a food that you are neutral for. You don't particularity love or even like it, but it's not like you hate or dislike it either. You're fully capable of eating it and filling your stomach with it, but you don't necessary enjoy eating it.

joined Dec 5, 2019

m_nguyen_chau posted:

Zero interest in sexual acts. We can still have sex, we just don’t have desire for it.

I try hard to dig deep into how you can enjoys someting yet not have any desire for it, without being on the puritans side.

They said "have" not "enjoy". Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you enjoy it. Imagine eating a food that you are neutral for. You don't particularity love or even like it, but it's not like you hate or dislike it either. You're fully capable of eating it and filling your stomach with it, but you don't necessary enjoy eating it.

damn, that can lead to some very frustrating relationships if both parties involved are not in the same wavelenght

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