using tongtong choker instead of the doggy collar is somehow hotter.
the eroticism of intimacy

great summary. tbh it's really "not so bad" just kinda rushed... but i'm a big Vi stand and really feel like they did her dirty. she is who suffers the most in season 2 and the least developed character. so i was (and really still) very pissed that they hurt my baby so much

^ cait become a facist and vi is on the cuck chair

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miss these two.
arcane did a crime against them

If Joe leaves, I doubt he's going to just sell his shop. And Mitsuki would surely want to keep running it (and she knows how to do it). So... Mitsuaya living together and running the shop together while Aya goes to college and Mitsuki pursues music domestic storyline, yes? YES??

cottage core... but rock

do you know about "after care" now learn about "before care."

I know I'm late to the discussion, but I felt the need to chime in about Koga's intervention between Aya and Ono.

For context I watched something that was in regards to US and Japan differences in website design philosophy and how the cultural quirks define how things are designed, including food menus. To further explain how the different cultures figure out how to design these things the person talked about low-context and high-context cultures. In low-context cultures, for example if you have a noisy neighbor making noise at night you'd directly confront them, knocking on door or the such, and say "Hey, could you keep the noise down at night?". In a high-context culture, for the same complaint, you'd say to your neighbor in passing, possibly an accidental meeting in public or the like, something like "You have a good choice of music".

Because Japanese is a high-context culture Koga's question was perfectly fitting with how they go about these kinds of things. Tell the person in a way that isn't directly confronting them about the issue.

thx so much for the explanation.
my autistic ass would spontaneously combust trying to understand non-literal things like this on a daily basis
so i really appreciated this chapter with Koga being so direct

I was wondering whether they were dating too.

I'm rather curious as to what criteria for "dating" are required that would not be covered by make-out sessions while painting each others' nails. (See Chapter 126.)

Situationship
common in yuri stories where communication it's not the characters best lvl. skill
i.e: most yuri works / useless lesbians

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THANK GOD
THEY SAID THEY ARE DATING!
IS NOT A SITUATIONSHIP

wplace yuri

I see a lot of japanese artists using the term and tag "bara" for a long time now. Even the rose as a symbol like the bear flag is used here in the western. So not so sure about it.

Yep, roses (bara) are associated with gay men in japan, but it has never been the name of the “genre” of comic/ilustration by them. This topic was also mentioned by him and its because they -gei komi artist- know it is a genre outside of Japan, its for marketable/exposure reasons, some even tag it with yaoi, to reach more people. It is similar to GL, people in Japan use it but its not the name of the genre (in Japan) and is barely used compared to Yuri.

So is also very similar to the "BL and Yaoi" thing? The more you know

I do remember a lesbian japanese artist (the organizer of the ButchxButch anthology) saying something similar in her twitter, that she use yuri because it would reach more people, basically for marketing reasons. Not that she doesn’t like yuri or that yuri can not be lesbian but that a “lesbian” genre didn’t exist.

I mean a lesbian genre does exist, it's called yuri. And while you're right that yuri can feel restrictive with its focus on feminine women loving feminine women. The yuri genre is very specifically the lesbian erotica made by and for lesbians genre in japan. the fact is that Yuri got its start in bara magazines.

All that said while there's certainly a conversation to be had about breaking free of purely depicting the conventionally attractive. This is still the forum for a story about an egg who got isekaied into the body of a pre-op trans woman and is as of chapter 1 still coping about it. I'd rather we try to keep on topic. even if that seemingly generates transphobes at alarming rate.

“while you are right” I didn’t give a opinion on the genre, just cited what I saw from a author on twitter. I am not the type to expect a genre to adapt to my taste, I just go and search for it. I also know where yuri started, and it wasn’t bara magazines (bara as a genre has never existed) it was a gay magazine called barazoku and the yurizoku section being the reason for the name of the genre.

You are right, so I deleted my last comment. I was trying to change the topic to be honest. I don’t know if its posible for a Admin. to delete all comments and monitor from then on to avoid transphobia.

Barazoku was a Bara magazine. The "yurizoku" was not a section, it was a term a editor from this magazine used in reference to the female readers for a letter column. they basically just called it "yuri" (lily) because it's another flower (bara = rose). as far as I know. he wasn't even necessarily referring to them as "lesbians" but from then on, a joke was formed of naming lesbian characters "Yuri" or something. No one is quite sure where the term came from, because it was mostly these obscure magazines and the doujin and fanzine cycles.

Bara has never been a genre in Japan (Gengoroh Tagame talked about this). Barazoku was a Gay magazine, Bara was used to refer to gay men (that is why the magazine was called Bara(rose)zoku(tribe))and then become a “slur” similar to pansy in english. What we call bara is called gei komi in Japan. Gay magazines had a section for comics and then it become its own market.

To my understanding, the number of female readers was enough to create a section in the magazine for them (column if its different in english) who was called yurizoku. In Japan, lilies were associated with women before it was associated with lesbians, how it started to represent lesbians is something I also don’t know.

I see a lot of japanese artists using the term and tag "bara" for a long time now. Even the rose as a symbol like the bear flag is used here in the western. So not so sure about it.

it was a letter column from the female readers (who probably weren't even lesbians) that were called the "lily tribe". later, other gay magazines began to have sections specifically for lesbian women meet each other, which also used the term "yuri." But it wasn't Barazuko, and after the "yurizuko" thing, and where the association of "lilies" with lesbians came from is still a mystery.

I do remember a lesbian japanese artist (the organizer of the ButchxButch anthology) saying something similar in her twitter, that she use yuri because it would reach more people, basically for marketing reasons. Not that she doesn’t like yuri or that yuri can not be lesbian but that a “lesbian” genre didn’t exist.

I mean a lesbian genre does exist, it's called yuri. And while you're right that yuri can feel restrictive with its focus on feminine women loving feminine women. The yuri genre is very specifically the lesbian erotica made by and for lesbians genre in japan. the fact is that Yuri got its start in bara magazines.

All that said while there's certainly a conversation to be had about breaking free of purely depicting the conventionally attractive. This is still the forum for a story about an egg who got isekaied into the body of a pre-op trans woman and is as of chapter 1 still coping about it. I'd rather we try to keep on topic. even if that seemingly generates transphobes at alarming rate.

“while you are right” I didn’t give a opinion on the genre, just cited what I saw from a author on twitter. I am not the type to expect a genre to adapt to my taste, I just go and search for it. I also know where yuri started, and it wasn’t bara magazines (bara as a genre has never existed) it was a gay magazine called barazoku and the yurizoku section being the reason for the name of the genre.

You are right, so I deleted my last comment. I was trying to change the topic to be honest. I don’t know if its posible for a Admin. to delete all comments and monitor from then on to avoid transphobia.

Barazoku was a Bara magazine. The "yurizoku" was not a section, it was a term a editor from this magazine used in reference to the female readers for a letter column. they basically just called it "yuri" (lily) because it's another flower (bara = rose). as far as I know. he wasn't even necessarily referring to them as "lesbians" but from then on, a joke was formed of naming lesbian characters "Yuri" or something. No one is quite sure where the term came from, because it was mostly these obscure magazines and the doujin and fanzine cycles.

EDIT: "Yuri" as "lesbian works" began in the 90s, but apparently the term had already been in circulation for some time and so no one really knows when it began to be associated with lesbians. I don't think I made it clear where the confusion came from. And the fact that indeed Bara is genre, but was just called "guei komi" before the Barazoku. Mb

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I do not agree and it is clear we have different idea of what a lesbian is. I do not want to start and further argument and I do not want to further upset you. It's clear this discussion is going nowhere so I will simply concede and affirm you;

Lesbians love penis!!!

There. Again, I am sorry if my previous words may have hurt you. Have a good day.

Don't really know how you being able to come to that conclusion, even after i'm saying: "It's not wrong for a cis lesbian not feeling confortable to have sex with a trans person but also don't make lesbians that do less lesbians."

I don't have skin in the game, so it does not hurt me, it just intrigues me what kind of conclusions are drawn from this.
But i'm feeling that somehow may be on purpose so i'll also no continue after this.

Truly, I had forgot that lesbians' are notorious for liking dick. I'm one myself and I forgot. Really sorry about that, won't happen again.

Trans women exist.

Yeah I know, I see one everyday in the office. She's nice and tells pretty good jokes. What's your point?

You're kinda indirectly implying that trans women can't be lesbians or have relationships with other women.
i think it's important to remember that no one is more or less gay for being in a relationship with a trans person, and that trans women also date other trans women and this is still a lesbian relationship.

How so? I apologize, if my words may have come off as harsh or rude (I'm ESL, tone isn't my forte) but how did I say that? I simply, but sarcastically, said lesbians don't like dick... Which is what lesbians don't like...Am I missing something?

if it's not on purpose, that's fine, but be careful with your words, especially in this discussion.

the biggest mistake here is to be focused on genitals. We can go on a deep "biological sex ≠ genre" talk or even "some lesbians use dildos and that's don't make them less lesbians" (not to mention bissexuals folks like me.)
all comes down to extremely personal preferences in the end. It's wrong for a cis lesbian not feeling confortable to have sex with a trans person? Of couse no. But it also don't make lesbians that like have sex with trans womans less lesbians.

If I get what you're saying, then I didn't mean for it to be on purpose.
That doesn't make sense to me. How is it a mistake to focus on the thing I am attracted to that makes me a lesbian and not heterosexual?

There is bisexuality for one also the whole "two trans womens dating is also lesbian" thing that i said. And again, genitals don't define your gender if you are trans, nonbinary and, to complicate a little more or understand of what is gender and sex even means, intersexual people.

Me, as a bissexual, i see genitals as irrelevant for faling in love with someone. It's only define "the type of fun" we can have doing sex. but some people don't like or have sex and still are on a relationship (the aro/ace spectrum varies.)

We are on a age where trans people have more visibility than never, they are a very small portion of the population but it's the basic to consider them and treat the topic with respect. It's not a black and white thing.

Truly, I had forgot that lesbians' are notorious for liking dick. I'm one myself and I forgot. Really sorry about that, won't happen again.

Trans women exist.

Yeah I know, I see one everyday in the office. She's nice and tells pretty good jokes. What's your point?

You're kinda indirectly implying that trans women can't be lesbians or have relationships with other women.
i think it's important to remember that no one is more or less gay for being in a relationship with a trans person, and that trans women also date other trans women and this is still a lesbian relationship.

How so? I apologize, if my words may have come off as harsh or rude (I'm ESL, tone isn't my forte) but how did I say that? I simply, but sarcastically, said lesbians don't like dick... Which is what lesbians don't like...Am I missing something?

if it's not on purpose, that's fine, but be careful with your words, especially in this discussion.

the biggest mistake here is to be focused on genitals. We can go on a deep "biological sex ≠ genre" talk or even "some lesbians use dildos and that's don't make them less lesbians" (not to mention bissexuals folks like me.)
all comes down to extremely personal preferences in the end. It's wrong for a cis lesbian not feeling confortable to have sex with a trans person? Of couse no. But it also don't make lesbians that like have sex with trans womans less lesbians.

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Truly, I had forgot that lesbians' are notorious for liking dick. I'm one myself and I forgot. Really sorry about that, won't happen again.

Trans women exist.

Yeah I know, I see one everyday in the office. She's nice and tells pretty good jokes. What's your point?

You're kinda indirectly implying that trans women can't be lesbians or have relationships with other women.
i think it's important to remember that no one is more or less gay for being in a relationship with a trans person, and that trans women also date other trans women and this is still a lesbian relationship.

I really like Bara a lot. I really like to see two boys chuu each other... Never once i fantasize about being a big hairy man to kiss another big hairy man... reconsider some things maybe

Today I learned Bara and Yaoi are not necessarily the same thing. Thank you.

they are considered entirely different genres. Yaoi/BL is mostly made by women for women, Bara is for the demographic of gay man that are also bears/chasers (and me as an intruder i guess lol.) tho the two are slowly blending together, in some ways, nowadays :D

You know, I've always wondered if there was a type of genre terminology of bara but for lesbian women. It certainly exists like you know when you see art that depicts lesbian relationships by a lesbian rather than a man but there's not really a term for it.

80% of yuri authors are woman. I can't say for sure they are also all gay, but well... connect the dots

This is the main reason why there is no equal separation on the GL genre compared to BL and Bara. Yuri is already the "lesbian women" genre. (tho the public is very equal in numbers of both genders)

tho, maybe Josei is a "close enough" there. But it's not exclusively for yuri.

I really like Bara a lot. I really like to see two boys chuu each other... Never once i fantasize about being a big hairy man to kiss another big hairy man... reconsider some things maybe

Today I learned Bara and Yaoi are not necessarily the same thing. Thank you.

they are considered entirely different genres. Yaoi/BL is mostly made by women for women, Bara is for the demographic of gay man that are also bears/chasers (and me as an intruder i guess lol.) tho the two are slowly blending together, in some ways, nowadays :D

I don't get it, this isn't a trans manga. I think about wanting to be a woman and in a lesbian relationship all the time, but that doesn't make me trans.

I really like Bara a lot. I really like to see two boys chuu each other... Never once i fantasize about being a big hairy man to kiss another big hairy man... reconsider some things maybe

i'm a cis woman, but i understand the "fear" purely because japanese authors are not known for being careful about sensitive topics. not with actual bad intentions i guess, just values dissonance and stuff.
let's hope for the best!!

I just find out that this manga is written by Izumi Kitta.
the voice actress of Tomoko from Watamote...

What the hell...

perfect blue vibes
i'm depressed now, and I don't even have skin in the game. wtf

with apologies to who uploaded it, I'm removing the Wednesday image. Regardless of if its AI or not, the content of it and the quality of the upscale has been negative, and I have to agree. I was hesitant to delete it initially due to not wanting my personal opinions on it take priority over other uploaders, as it's not my site, it's multiple peoples. But with the feedback given, I've gone ahead and removed it. I do want to encourage other uploaders to post images inbetween the big batches too, but in this instance it didn't really work out.

god bless dynasty, thank you

LOL glad to see i'm not the only one that got weird out by this.
Now, saying as someone who is an digital artist: It's not "FULLY" GenAI.
It seens to me that is an AI upscale (like those waifu2x sites) but the whole vibe of this artist is weird too... He came into existence this year and already posted dozens of pieces, all very consistent with each other. If I had to guess, given the weird vibe of the drawings themselves (always looking foward eyes) and all the other stuff, this person uses AI to generate the initial art, but probably has a good technical knowledge to minimally over-draw them (fixing things that would make it very clear that is GenAi) that's why it ends up being so strangely consistent. Still very shitty in my opnion.

tho, there's a real chance that i'm wrong and he just has a weird style and posts drawings in very low resolution because of patron-exclusive content.