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cyberninjasio
joined Jan 5, 2020

Am I the only one who got the feeling that it isn’t a love confession she’s heading to do thanks to the call to Izumi’s confesson to Nanaki? Seeing as Nanaki’s the one Kurokawa told to face Izumi “head on” about her feelings not being romantic, but still wanting them to be friends.

joined Jan 5, 2020

that dude is a fcking idiot imagine not having a girl in your party

Not to spoil too much, but it’s not that he doesn’t want any girls in his party, but that he doesn’t want Tanya in his party. The reasons are pretty shitty, but it’ll be obvious later what they are.

last edited at Apr 20, 2021 3:15PM by OrangePekoe

joined Jan 5, 2020

my issue is that it feels like a lot of the stories i've read recently have main characters with the tropes of touko and yuu without really understanding why they worked so well in bloom into you. it just feels surface level, like a pale imitation. the main one i'm thinking of here is whispering you a love song, which i admittedly haven't been keeping up with lately. from the first chapters of that story all i could think of was how similar those main characters are to touko and yuu. (and there's a sayaka character too.) and then the story just... didn't seem to really get it. it just felt like it took those tropes to try to tell a story similar to bloom into you without understanding that tropes are only surface level.

I have to ask. Where in the almighty hells did you manage to get the idea that Yori has trauma and doesn’t want her love to be reciprocated in Whispering You A Love Song? That’s not the case at all. Yeah, Himari is immature and doesn’t really get what love is (and has an impressively dubious grasp on her native language), but she’s not thinking she might be aromantic like Yuu. About all they have as parallels to Bloom Into You is the sempai/kohai dynamic and that’s almost a standard trope for school girl yuri. The best friend who’s secretly in love with one of the protagonists but will never admit it is also a very common trope that predates Bloom Into You. You’re being very shallow in how you look at things if you’re just automatically assigning Bloom Into You roles to characters in every yuri manga you come across.

i'm not trying to say that all of the yuri that's been taking inspiration from bloom into you is bad or that taking inspiration is bad. there are some that i really like, actually. it doesn't feel like come rain or shine takes many of those obvious touko, yuu, or sayaka tropes, but it still reminds me of bloom into you, because i think arata iri gets what made it so good (she definitely read it)--it's the fundamental stuff that's key to romance stories, the themes and complimentary character arcs. the rest is window dressing.

Jeez, man. We get it. You like Bloom Into You. But that doesn’t mean every ofher yuri author out there writing school girl yuri has read it or was inspired by it. Come Rain or Shine doesn’t even have the Sayaka like character!

and on the other hand, a monster wants to eat me feels like it more obviously takes from the bloom into you character tropes, but i've still been thoroughly enjoying it. maybe it's because of the beauty and the beast factor and the monsters, or maybe it's because it gets it--right now it's a bit too early to tell.

A Monster Wants To Eat Me also doesn’t have senpai/kohai dynamics. Or other pertinent tropes that I won’t mention to avoid spoilers for recent chapters.

but yeah, this is just something i've been noticing in yuri (the yuri that gets translated at least) and i felt like commenting on it this time. like, this story is taking from the obvious character tropes AND rushing all the way to the play arc within the first 3 chapters. it's taking so much from bloom and just speeding it up. i don't even know these people yet. it makes me worried that it doesn't understand that it's the broader strokes that actually matter. it's obviously still too early to tell right now, but i just felt like talking about it.

Dude, seriously, just because there are vague similarities to another manga doesn’t mean it was inspired by that other manga. There are tons of school girl yuri manga out there. Not all of them take inspiration from Bloom Into You. And the ones you seem to think do take inspiration involve some Olympic record long jump type leaps and mental gymnastics that would put a gold medal floor routine to shame.

cyberninjasio
joined Jan 5, 2020

Wow is there ever a lot of people making wild judgment calls and heavily stereotyped reading of this manga in the comments. It’s one person’s singular experience with being trans. No, he wouldn’t have been A-OK with being in a female body if he’d been allowed to do “boy things” as a child. If that was a possibility, he wouldn’t have received the diagnosis he did. No, the underlying theme was not “hunting makes you a man”. That was a personal feeling for Chiaki and was derived more from his desire to be accepted as his hunter father’s son. And the fact that Chiaki was depicted as very feminine wasn’t some kind of “super girly tomboys are secretly trans!” BS. It’s just how some people deal with their messed up heads. Or are you going to say that it’s BS to depict a lesbian getting knocked up by some random dude because she sleeps around with guys while trying to convince herself (and possibly everyone around her) that she’s not gay?

It’s a manga. The methods of telling the story are limited. You’re only getting the picture drawn by the artist and the words put down by the writer. That’s it. Stop condemning one of the very few decent portrayals of someone going through transitioning just because you as a cis person think it needs to somehow be more psychoanalytical or maybe just don’t get it at all. You don’t have to get it! It’s not your story!

cyberninjasio
joined Jan 5, 2020

Bullseye 200 points? Are Japanese using different darts boards? 'cause I only know that as 50 ... which is why you go for 3x20, not bullseye ^^;

I don’t think that was the dartboard proclaiming 200 points but Kyouka who doesn’t seem to know how the game really works anyway.

cyberninjasio
joined Jan 5, 2020

It’s kind of mistagged though. This is yuri crush at best, not yuri.

cyberninjasio
joined Jan 5, 2020

@porurun You know, accepting criticism and feedback to help grow as an author is one of the points of being an author. Telling people they can't be disappointed or not like something just because someone created it is both not helpful in general and potentially harmful to the creator as it removes necessary feedback.

Authors and other creators cannot develop in a safety bubble created by overzealous fans like yourself trying to shut down honest criticism and feedback. So kindly reflect upon your decision to yell at someone for posting their opinion on the manga and thus provide a source of feedback and please stop trying to force others to not voice their criticisms. You are not the author's knight errant, so put down your sword and shield and take part in the discussion like everyone else.

cyberninjasio
Kill Switch discussion 19 Feb 06:51
joined Jan 5, 2020

MC is pretty easily manipulated by the girl with the bob. I mean, she’s goes to the trouble of asking if the incident happened, but doesn’t bother with the “why” that she wanted to know and just toddles off to beg forgiveness. For not believing it actually happened, I guess? She’s kind of a dipshit.

cyberninjasio
joined Jan 5, 2020

That was such a let down after chap 99. Oh yeah, it was faaaate that we met and became...uh... buddies? Clearly.

joined Jan 5, 2020

It’s a special world where making someone watch porn while sitting on your lap is considered a legit method of conversion “therapy” to change someone’s sexuality. Uncomfortable with having to sit in someone’s lap? Let’s make it more uncomfortable with making you watch explicit porn at the same time! That’ll make it more appealing! Like, really?

Man, she’s not interested in making her fall for her. She’s just interested in making sure she doesn’t freak out too bad when she inevitably fucks her. What next? Stick a finger in her without warning during a graphic lesbian orgy porno and assume any moisture means she’s raring to go?

And all of that ignores that the whole set up with the “bet” is designed to make Marika more resistant to “falling” since she doesn’t get paid if she does. Ugh.

cyberninjasio
Silky discussion 05 Feb 06:40
joined Jan 5, 2020

Wtf did I just read? That is... yeah, I got nothing. That was nothing I would or possibly could have expected.

cyberninjasio
joined Jan 5, 2020

"Race purity" ain't a good look on anyone, ever.

Well, no. But this isn't a race thing. Titans are literally a different species. That said, trying to restart a species with only two genetic sources is going to fail in an epic way. Their kids would have to have kids with each other and the whole European royal family should be proof enough of why inbreeding is a really bad idea.

cyberninjasio
Misaki discussion 18 Jan 06:56
joined Jan 5, 2020

Well, that was an awkwardly weird turn.

cyberninjasio
Null Hug discussion 29 Dec 07:21
joined Jan 5, 2020

Low-key headcanon for this is they're both lying about having partners and are just too dumb to admit they love one another without trying to goad the other on.

Yeah, it came off more like a cheating roleplay than actually being in other relationships. I mean, they’re staying overnight and there’s no actual signs of the other partners beyond them talking about them.

cyberninjasio
joined Jan 5, 2020

If you thought it ended badly, think again :

  1. Zombie-chan revenge-kills Murderer-chan.
  2. Because she was killed on Japan Zombifying Mountain (TM), Murderer-chan comes back to un-life.

Yeah, but Zombie-chan would have to bury Murderer-chan under a specific cedar tree for that to work. Zomzoms aren’t totally know for their burial skills.

But Murderer-chan did get eaten out by her love interest in the end, so there’s that?

joined Jan 5, 2020

Hot damn Ataru, take it easy on the simping.

Can we just throw that word right back into the nasty dumpster fire that birthed it? It doesn’t really have any place on this site.

cyberninjasio
joined Jan 5, 2020

I wonder when this is going to be marked as licensed and taken down. I mean, the 8th volume just published in English by Kodansha USA last month and that’s fully caught up to the Japanese volumes.

joined Jan 5, 2020

I dimly recall hearing about an incident when I was much younger about a high school kid getting stabbed with a pencil or some other writing instrument in the chest and only being ok (relatively, I mean, he did get stabbed) because it turned out his heart was on the opposite side of his chest. If I remember right, he didn’t even know about his condition until that incident. Ofc, now I’m not sure if it was a real case or something I read in a book or manga it’s been so long since it happened.

cyberninjasio
joined Jan 5, 2020

Or she could be the rarely-if-ever portrayed asexual lesbian and being thrown off by the tired old love = sexual desire bullshit. As if romance has to involve sex.

The Puritans got your back.

Ya’ll really can’t understand the concept of someone not being horny all the time, sad

"Not being horny all the time" isn't asexual definition at all. Asexual from my point of view is a zero tolerence for sexual act. It's very different

Zero interest in sexual acts. We can still have sex, we just don’t have desire for it.

cyberninjasio
joined Jan 5, 2020

Lol, poor Hinako, the way she was describing her feelings, she very much wants to do those things but it's too embarrassed to do it or admit it. I hope she comes to terms with it in time.
loved the new character, gave some new progress to Hinako.

Or she could be the rarely-if-ever portrayed asexual lesbian and being thrown off by the tired old love = sexual desire bullshit. As if romance has to involve sex.

joined Jan 5, 2020

And here in Exhibit A we have the Japanese Box Cutter. Despite being cheap, flimsy, and mass produced, this dimmitive item possesses the hidden ability to become a mythical class weapon when wielded by yandere school girls, capable of inflicting deep stab wounds and even dismemberment.

With enough time and effort, you too could dismember someone with a craft knife. All it takes is the will. Craftknife-san will provide the way.

cyberninjasio
joined Jan 5, 2020

This is manipulation and incest is fucking disgusting. How much is the age difference?? Why do they insist on ruining yuri with these disgusting tags. Yuri is pure and real. Nothing like that bullshit hentai. This sucked.

So...why did you click on this if its tagged by the things you hate?

Because they wanted to pitch a fit to everyone who wasn’t turned off by tags. I mean, at least this was tagged appropriately, unlike some of the rape or death stuff (because spoilers are more important than letting people avoid things like that if they want to) lately.

joined Jan 5, 2020

She's either pretty bold, or pretty stupid. That is a really flawed plan, too many loose ends. One day the cops are going to be in her door.

I'm just imagining two Japanese policemen screaming in agony while fused to her front door as she levitates off into the night to her girlfriend's house, power transformers exploding as she passes by.

That sounds like a far more interesting twist than a basic bitch yandare murder, imo.

That said death would be a fairly non-spoilery tag, given that it's pretty clear fairly early on that the original childhood friend is no longer around for some reason. You don't find out it was straight up murder until you see the hands hit her back. A simple death tag would let people who want to avoid that skip it while still preserving the twist of how the death occurs.

cyberninjasio
joined Jan 5, 2020

Is there a translation error or is there just something weird in the original Japanese? The MC goes from calling herself a “working adult” who just goes back and forth from “home to the office” to calling the kid-adult a “college student just like me” and back to a “working adult”. It’s actually more confusing than adult-plus-kiddie-backpack = child logic for me. At least that’s just Japanese normal weirdness.

cyberninjasio
joined Jan 5, 2020

Why? Why all the rapey crap with no warning tags lately? It’s getting really frustrating.

I see i'm not the only one who noticed this, I guess it's to avoid spoilers? who knows..

I’m not a fan. You can’t blacklist this shit when it’s not tagged properly. Don’t really care if it’s a spoiler or not.