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Chocolate Cake
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joined Jul 1, 2025

It was a bit sudden but I'm not upset with Niji's story not getting some neat resolution. I'd much rather have this than, say, something like the ending of Inside Mari.
I'm happy that Remu retained her focus on dolls; while I can see the inklings of a typical love triangle setup (though I won't reread it right now to confirm), I'm starting to find it a bit fatiguing in the same way het stories (and sometimes real-life situations) hardly ever seem to allow for confusing but non-romantic tension within relationships.
And sure, the rest went by fast and it could have been developed a bit better but I'm okay with the general direction. The failed high school romance working out in the end might look troubling from a certain moralistic point of view... However, I couldn't care less about that. It was cute.

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joined Jul 3, 2025

I liked this manga, despite the rushed ending. I would have preferred that the author had developed it further before ending it, but it was a good read.

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joined May 28, 2020

That was really the kind of ending that makes it feel like this was never worth reading.

AutumnWaterXIII
joined May 29, 2022

I’m happy Meguru got back with Azuki~ although I also wanted to see remu make up with her friend

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joined Aug 12, 2021

so I did do a bit of re-reading in no small part because a lot of people unhappy with Meguru and Azuki getting back together are saying her arc was rushed. And like that's just not what happened? Like she came to a resolution with Remu in the last three chapters that allowed her to fully accept both Remu and Azuki and herself for having sexual desires. But Meguru's breaking point was in chapter 10 and 11 where she tested Azuki for sexual desire (disgusting), Azuki passed (she acted as if sexual desire is digusting and didn't do anything), and Meguru found herself deeply unhappy about it.

Like that's the point she started truly working through her issues and she had all of volume three to do so. Yes her confrontation with Remu was chapter 15 and 16, three chapters before the end but by that point she'd already changed a lot from who she was at introduction. the idea that that is the moment she started to resolve her issues is just wrong, though I can see how it would be remembered as it was the big confrontation.

overall Meguru is a recurring character throughout the story and starts really working through her issues at the end of volume two pulling about a third of the focus on the entire series. I'd say that's not exactly rushed. Honestly it has me arguing she's not just an important character but one of the protagonists. So, ultimately I'm not going to say you're not allowed to like the idea of Remu and Azuki better than Meguru and Azuki but I don't it's fair to argue Meguru is underbaked.

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joined Dec 20, 2020

It really feels like the author picked and chose the most important things to resolve given the situation. And I think they did a really good job of it truthfully. I understand why people are upset at the idea of resolving things in a conversation, but if there were ever a series where that was possible, it would be this one. The act of unveiling the disgusting parts one was hiding has been put forward as the way to move on and accept them, and that this is a proper path to healing. I think that's exactly what we see. And with that what needed most to be resolved is resolved, and that's absolutely an acceptable place to end a story: to not tie everything up in a neat bow, but to have a very clear focus on a part of the character's lives that the story is about, and resolve it when that conflict is resolved. Like in Niji's case, they haven't made up or figured out how they're going to move forward, but it was that conversation where they put forward what was inside that created a path toward some resolution, and that act itself, not the resolution, is what's being celebrated.

I feel very similarly. Maybe it's because I knew it was ending sooner than we might anticipate, but this felt like a qsoft landing in that context. The author prioritized the more important relationships and maintained the trajectory the series was heading towards. Megeru deciding to no longer be defined by her childhood trauma, Remu finding relationships she can honestly express herself in, and Azuki demoting her idol worship into a fun hobby are natural endpoints the series was moving towards. Like sure, I would have liked to see Megeru personally realize there's more to intimacy than physical desire, Remu come to terms with her crush on Azuki, or Azuki more clearly display a willingness to move on had Megeru not wanted to get back together, but that's how the cookie crumbled. Really Niji is the only dropped thread. I imagine she would have been softened a bit from the start with the knowledge that there wasn't going to be another volume to complete that narrative throughline. Altogether, I'm rather happy with the series and the ending though.

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joined Sep 30, 2023

It could’ve ended worse, but I do feel like this is missing something by not being a 20 volume behemoth entitled something to the effect of “Paraphilias Amongst The Lesbian Community - Trauma And Forgiveness” that steadily transitions from fictional narrative to longform essay by about the 2/3rds point. (I do think the ending was too abrupt, but the actual components OF it seem like what would be included in a better-paced ending, and if it had to end this soon I’m glad it ended this way??? In retrospect I’m mostly surprised Meguru never had a Big Plushophile Moment, it felt like that was the direction her brand of repression was going in lmao.)

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joined Jan 22, 2026

hmm i'm confused cause i genuinely found this manga to be pretty mature in its exploration of these i guess, taboo topics and the way their respective traumas made them who they are but it getting axed really undervalued it. sure i don't like niji but she was clearly mentally ill (delusions in such a level are indeed a mental illness) and she needed some resolution too that i feeel like the author was gonna give if she only had one more volume that's it. a lot would've been accomplished with just one more volume. hack i'm not even mad that the duo we were following weren't endgame even tho in my opinion azuki getting back with meguru thematically didn't make much sense, them both coming to this realization they both loved each other bla bla and had issues bla bla but now they'll work better as friends would've been better maybe i dunno... anyways this story was clearly not a romance and that's sth i liked tbh, need more messed up manga about lesbians not neceseerily being in love and whatnot

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

A very nice ending. ^_^

Bambinessa
joined Aug 2, 2023

Given the circumstances, this is the best possible ending. Of course the absence of the axe would have been preferable, but within the confines of it's shadow, I don't see improvements to be made. Dropping the plot of Niji ended up, whilst personally massively dissatisfying, as the only means to get at least some resolution for our protagonist duo.

I'm not sure what is there to complain about Meguru's arc. Perhaps you specifically were born already in full horndog mode and only got worse with puberty, but she's by far the least strange or deviant main character. Yes, from the outside it might not seem much to give physical intimiacy another try, but that's because doing something in spite of yourself is always easier in retrospect.

But I also think that Azuki would have needed more character development. The "reward" of scoring her crush does not feel deserved considering she just spent years being weird about it without finding redemption. And most of the Azuki/Meguru romance was off-screen, so it's no suprise Azuki/Remu looked like the way to go.

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joined Jan 3, 2022

I like the ending and the series as a whole. Hearing it was axed makes me sad but the author did a good job making it work. The only story's resolution I didn't care about was Niji's so her remaining messed up is preferable to her change being rushed

I'm happy Meguru and Azuki are together and I'm glad Remu isnt hanging around Niji anymore. I genuinely couldn't have seen Azuki and Remu in a relationship together despite Remu's feelings for her

Dumshork
joined Mar 19, 2022

The final scene with Azuki and Remu seemed a little off, but a good ending overall. Maybe Azuki was feeling more talkative after her reconciliation and progress with Meguru. I'm glad Meguru was able to grow from someone unreasonable and annoying into being more understanding. Not projecting their own trauma onto people who don't have anything to do with it is something more people need to learn.

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joined Apr 23, 2023

The ending was unsatisfying. The resolution was too neat for a years-long issue, and the ending made these complex characters and their issues too simple and flat. Niji's unhealthy obsession with Remu was built up for so long and the main conflict, someone refusing to engage with a person's real self, is super interesting just for Remu to say oh well I hope I get her to like my dolls one day :). And Meguru just lacked a lot of substance );...

I had gotten from earlier chapters that her deal was partially that she just didn't want to be engaged w for her body, but then she sees evidence of Azuki's obsession with her body and she's like I just disliked it because I had issues with my adulterous father but you're fine otherwise, let's have sex. :|

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joined Sep 10, 2022

The ending was unsatisfying. The resolution was too neat for a years-long issue, and the ending made these complex characters and their issues too simple and flat. Niji's unhealthy obsession with Remu was built up for so long and the main conflict, someone refusing to engage with a person's real self, is super interesting just for Remu to say oh well I hope I get her to like my dolls one day :). And Meguru just lacked a lot of substance );...

I had gotten from earlier chapters that her deal was partially that she just didn't want to be engaged w for her body, but then she sees evidence of Azuki's obsession with her body and she's like I just disliked it because I had issues with my adulterous father but you're fine otherwise, let's have sex. :|

Yeah the speed of everything just made it feel robotic and flat to me as well. This was a better way of explaining it.

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1pixel
joined Dec 3, 2010

Seeing Azuki san only reminds me of Nishi Uko sensei's work. One of her one shot involves a woman who made model/figurine as her occupation and was practicing how to propose to her girlfriend before actually delivering to it.

Happy to know that Azuki san and Meguru san got together again.

In before, everyone is rooting for Azuki x Remu because they both could accept each other's weirdness/kinkiness that others would find it disgusting.

I also wish that Niji san has a resolution.

I still don't think that writing fictional stories are delusional(something like ao3). She probably is the type that draws inspiration from people around her or that because she loves Remu san romantically but couldn't express it in a way that she decided to write it as stories.

The things that I don't quite understand is that she would expects Remu san to act exactly as what she wrote, and that she doesn't understand Remu san, mainly she creates a Remu out of her own perspective, and to publish them for views.

I wonder if Niji san still works on her fictional stories on her x Remu. Remu san doesn't seem to mind at all. That is one thing that I am shocked about when she knows what Niji san has done but didn't feel disgusted by what she did.

The usual case would be people find it disgusting when people read about what they think people imagine of them...

Remu san is indeed a gem. A good friend.
Though she also has her own kink.

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joined Jan 14, 2020

Hearing it was axed makes me sad

We don't know it was axed. But Usui Shio was doing two series recently, both of which ended abruptly relative to the stories they'd been developing.

The things that I don't quite understand is that she would expects Remu san to act exactly as what she wrote,

That's the "delusional" part.

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joined Aug 8, 2015

I'm being cynical, so warning for that.

A story about two girls being fine with their "disgusting" hobbies ended up with one of them basically sanitizing said hobby, and even having a typical manga ending of "doing my hobby... competitively!!" which is, y'know, very japanese but it definitely seems to bypass any emotional motivations she might have had for that. (a hobby that began as a very personal thing...Do you really want to put it out there for anyone to see, and if so, why? Questions like this weren't even considered.)

This story had a girl with a repulsion for sex that was so bad she spent almost the entirety of the manga convinced she was in the right for hurting a girl who loved her. In the end, she explains her trauma in the most matter-of-fact way, just telling us what we already know, almost like instead of processing it she's just... giving us the notes the mangaka had written about her when she had to sent this story to her editor's. Again, we aren't really privy to the emotional developments that led to her being okay with sex all of the sudden.

This story spent most of its runtime developing the relationship of two people, Remu and Azuki, who were way too compatible. They had sexually intimate scenes together. In the end, Azuki ends up with her ex-gf. Why? Because it is much more neat that way. LIke this, no one has to face any "awkwardness": Meguru doesn't have to face her little sister be with the person who she fumbled. Azuki doesn't have to grow out of her unhealthy attachment to a girl who she doesn't even know that well, and Remu... well, she was already a paper-thin character, so this way the story doesn't have to consider her inner world as a thing that might exist.

Look, I'm a self-described degenerate. Not in the sense that I'm any more of a pervert than anyone else, but moreso that I embrace that perversion. "Perversion", "deviation", "degeneration" these are just words that point to being outside the norm in ways that are socially damning, but I think people having such fixations is wonderful, since it allows for people to think and experience life in novel ways (not to mention, these are words usually used by fascist and authoritarian regimes to designate those they don't like). There's a quote out there by famous anime director Tomino Yoshiyuki about how you can only be a good animator if you're a pervert, and I agree; I think that goes for making manga, too. And this author isn't a pervert at all. I just think they liked the aesthetics of perversion. It managed to completely fool me into thinking that this would be an interesting work, but I am saddened by the flaccidity in which it has decided to finish. It definitely lacked the courage to engorge itself and revel in its perverted potential.

All in all, this series was a dissapointment and I hate that I wasted time of my life following it.

1pixel
joined Dec 3, 2010

I'm being cynical, so warning for that.

A story about two girls being fine with their "disgusting" hobbies ended up with one of them basically sanitizing said hobby, and even having a typical manga ending of "doing my hobby... competitively!!" which is, y'know, very japanese but it definitely seems to bypass any emotional motivations she might have had for that. (a hobby that began as a very personal thing...Do you really want to put it out there for anyone to see, and if so, why? Questions like this weren't even considered.)

This story had a girl with a repulsion for sex that was so bad she spent almost the entirety of the manga convinced she was in the right for hurting a girl who loved her. In the end, she explains her trauma in the most matter-of-fact way, just telling us what we already know, almost like instead of processing it she's just... giving us the notes the mangaka had written about her when she had to sent this story to her editor's. Again, we aren't really privy to the emotional developments that led to her being okay with sex all of the sudden.

This story spent most of its runtime developing the relationship of two people, Remu and Azuki, who were way too compatible. They had sexually intimate scenes together. In the end, Azuki ends up with her ex-gf. Why? Because it is much more neat that way. LIke this, no one has to face any "awkwardness": Meguru doesn't have to face her little sister be with the person who she fumbled. Azuki doesn't have to grow out of her unhealthy attachment to a girl who she doesn't even know that well, and Remu... well, she was already a paper-thin character, so this way the story doesn't have to consider her inner world as a thing that might exist.

Look, I'm a self-described degenerate. Not in the sense that I'm any more of a pervert than anyone else, but moreso that I embrace that perversion. "Perversion", "deviation", "degeneration" these are just words that point to being outside the norm in ways that are socially damning, but I think people having such fixations is wonderful, since it allows for people to think and experience life in novel ways (not to mention, these are words usually used by fascist and authoritarian regimes to designate those they don't like). There's a quote out there by famous anime director Tomino Yoshiyuki about how you can only be a good animator if you're a pervert, and I agree; I think that goes for making manga, too. And this author isn't a pervert at all. I just think they liked the aesthetics of perversion. It managed to completely fool me into thinking that this would be an interesting work, but I am saddened by the flaccidity in which it has decided to finish. It definitely lacked the courage to engorge itself and revel in its perverted potential.

All in all, this series was a dissapointment and I hate that I wasted time of my life following it.

Ah, it feels like saying
"This story can be better because the element of the story itself is interesting in the first place".

Usui sensei probably wants to write this story in tame.

But hearing you say your disappointment because the story can have different ways of writing and probably according to how you imagine is exciting because it means the story can be refined better with some perversion -- like adding more something, since the story is about kinks.

But knowing Usui sensei (she's not Kodama Naoko or Asagi Ryuu sensei though), that's probably how she writes.
It is going to be how it is: tame, positive note, calm and perhaps mild slice of life manga.

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joined Aug 8, 2015

I'm being cynical, so warning for that.

A story about two girls being fine with their "disgusting" hobbies ended up with one of them basically sanitizing said hobby, and even having a typical manga ending of "doing my hobby... competitively!!" which is, y'know, very japanese but it definitely seems to bypass any emotional motivations she might have had for that. (a hobby that began as a very personal thing...Do you really want to put it out there for anyone to see, and if so, why? Questions like this weren't even considered.)

This story had a girl with a repulsion for sex that was so bad she spent almost the entirety of the manga convinced she was in the right for hurting a girl who loved her. In the end, she explains her trauma in the most matter-of-fact way, just telling us what we already know, almost like instead of processing it she's just... giving us the notes the mangaka had written about her when she had to sent this story to her editor's. Again, we aren't really privy to the emotional developments that led to her being okay with sex all of the sudden.

This story spent most of its runtime developing the relationship of two people, Remu and Azuki, who were way too compatible. They had sexually intimate scenes together. In the end, Azuki ends up with her ex-gf. Why? Because it is much more neat that way. LIke this, no one has to face any "awkwardness": Meguru doesn't have to face her little sister be with the person who she fumbled. Azuki doesn't have to grow out of her unhealthy attachment to a girl who she doesn't even know that well, and Remu... well, she was already a paper-thin character, so this way the story doesn't have to consider her inner world as a thing that might exist.

Look, I'm a self-described degenerate. Not in the sense that I'm any more of a pervert than anyone else, but moreso that I embrace that perversion. "Perversion", "deviation", "degeneration" these are just words that point to being outside the norm in ways that are socially damning, but I think people having such fixations is wonderful, since it allows for people to think and experience life in novel ways (not to mention, these are words usually used by fascist and authoritarian regimes to designate those they don't like). There's a quote out there by famous anime director Tomino Yoshiyuki about how you can only be a good animator if you're a pervert, and I agree; I think that goes for making manga, too. And this author isn't a pervert at all. I just think they liked the aesthetics of perversion. It managed to completely fool me into thinking that this would be an interesting work, but I am saddened by the flaccidity in which it has decided to finish. It definitely lacked the courage to engorge itself and revel in its perverted potential.

All in all, this series was a dissapointment and I hate that I wasted time of my life following it.

Ah, it feels like saying
"This story can be better because the element of the story itself is interesting in the first place".

Usui sensei probably wants to write this story in tame.

But hearing you say your disappointment because the story can have different ways of writing and probably according to how you imagine is exciting because it means the story can be refined better with some perversion -- like adding more something, since the story is about kinks.

But knowing Usui sensei (she's not Kodama Naoko or Asagi Ryuu sensei though), that's probably how she writes.
It is going to be how it is: tame, positive note, calm and perhaps mild slice of life manga.

I think this kind of argument can be a valid way of interpreting art ("your expectations should be tempered by the kind of author this is"), but I interpret stories based on the premise and expectations they themselves set, not on the author's track record. I like to attribute authors more flexibility in the kind of stories they can bring out. They're not brands, after all.

I also don't really agree that this is a "tame" and "mild" story, it features a character who's deeply traumatized by sex, and another whose mom's habits had her recede into delusions...

Btw, this is not a dig or anything, but I think the way you write is kind of interesting. You have a prose that reminds me of japanese.

joined May 29, 2021

I'm being cynical, so warning for that.

A story about two girls being fine with their "disgusting" hobbies ended up with one of them basically sanitizing said hobby, and even having a typical manga ending of "doing my hobby... competitively!!" which is, y'know, very japanese but it definitely seems to bypass any emotional motivations she might have had for that. (a hobby that began as a very personal thing...Do you really want to put it out there for anyone to see, and if so, why? Questions like this weren't even considered.)

This story had a girl with a repulsion for sex that was so bad she spent almost the entirety of the manga convinced she was in the right for hurting a girl who loved her. In the end, she explains her trauma in the most matter-of-fact way, just telling us what we already know, almost like instead of processing it she's just... giving us the notes the mangaka had written about her when she had to sent this story to her editor's. Again, we aren't really privy to the emotional developments that led to her being okay with sex all of the sudden.

This story spent most of its runtime developing the relationship of two people, Remu and Azuki, who were way too compatible. They had sexually intimate scenes together. In the end, Azuki ends up with her ex-gf. Why? Because it is much more neat that way. LIke this, no one has to face any "awkwardness": Meguru doesn't have to face her little sister be with the person who she fumbled. Azuki doesn't have to grow out of her unhealthy attachment to a girl who she doesn't even know that well, and Remu... well, she was already a paper-thin character, so this way the story doesn't have to consider her inner world as a thing that might exist.

Look, I'm a self-described degenerate. Not in the sense that I'm any more of a pervert than anyone else, but moreso that I embrace that perversion. "Perversion", "deviation", "degeneration" these are just words that point to being outside the norm in ways that are socially damning, but I think people having such fixations is wonderful, since it allows for people to think and experience life in novel ways (not to mention, these are words usually used by fascist and authoritarian regimes to designate those they don't like). There's a quote out there by famous anime director Tomino Yoshiyuki about how you can only be a good animator if you're a pervert, and I agree; I think that goes for making manga, too. And this author isn't a pervert at all. I just think they liked the aesthetics of perversion. It managed to completely fool me into thinking that this would be an interesting work, but I am saddened by the flaccidity in which it has decided to finish. It definitely lacked the courage to engorge itself and revel in its perverted potential.

All in all, this series was a dissapointment and I hate that I wasted time of my life following it.

You articulated this well. I think she sheer amount of time spent with Azuki and Remu makes this ending feel weird. The idea that Azuki would get over Meguru with this new relationship makes sense. The manga also made it pretty clear Remu was catching feelings for Azuki and they just…kinda dropped it.

Mangetsu
joined Oct 24, 2021

There's a quote out there by famous anime director Tomino Yoshiyuki about how you can only be a good animator if you're a pervert, and I agree; I think that goes for making manga, too. And this author isn't a pervert at all. I just think they liked the aesthetics of perversion. It managed to completely fool me into thinking that this would be an interesting work, but I am saddened by the flaccidity in which it has decided to finish.

i was not expecting to see Tomino cited in the dynasty scans comment section but I love this, you're cooking with gas and I couldn't agree more. This is a story that had so much room to be explored in depth and it feels like it never once dove below the surface, and its frustrated me so much that it just fell flat like this.

Illustration5
joined Aug 31, 2017

Pointless ending... such a shame, honestly.

Unnamed
joined Sep 11, 2019

Man wtf was this jajaja
Usui my GOAT is falling xd
Seriously, at least "Becoming her lover for her sake" ending was at least decent but this was outpaced and akward *sigh
It's always sad to see an author trying to rescue an axed series but more sad when the ending is unpleasing as this...

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joined Aug 4, 2021

I don't get how you can read the first half of this manga and think the author doesn't understand perversion.

joined May 9, 2017

I'm being cynical, so warning for that.

A story about two girls being fine with their "disgusting" hobbies ended up with one of them basically sanitizing said hobby, and even having a typical manga ending of "doing my hobby... competitively!!" which is, y'know, very japanese but it definitely seems to bypass any emotional motivations she might have had for that. (a hobby that began as a very personal thing...Do you really want to put it out there for anyone to see, and if so, why? Questions like this weren't even considered.)

This story had a girl with a repulsion for sex that was so bad she spent almost the entirety of the manga convinced she was in the right for hurting a girl who loved her. In the end, she explains her trauma in the most matter-of-fact way, just telling us what we already know, almost like instead of processing it she's just... giving us the notes the mangaka had written about her when she had to sent this story to her editor's. Again, we aren't really privy to the emotional developments that led to her being okay with sex all of the sudden.

This story spent most of its runtime developing the relationship of two people, Remu and Azuki, who were way too compatible. They had sexually intimate scenes together. In the end, Azuki ends up with her ex-gf. Why? Because it is much more neat that way. LIke this, no one has to face any "awkwardness": Meguru doesn't have to face her little sister be with the person who she fumbled. Azuki doesn't have to grow out of her unhealthy attachment to a girl who she doesn't even know that well, and Remu... well, she was already a paper-thin character, so this way the story doesn't have to consider her inner world as a thing that might exist.

Look, I'm a self-described degenerate. Not in the sense that I'm any more of a pervert than anyone else, but moreso that I embrace that perversion. "Perversion", "deviation", "degeneration" these are just words that point to being outside the norm in ways that are socially damning, but I think people having such fixations is wonderful, since it allows for people to think and experience life in novel ways (not to mention, these are words usually used by fascist and authoritarian regimes to designate those they don't like). There's a quote out there by famous anime director Tomino Yoshiyuki about how you can only be a good animator if you're a pervert, and I agree; I think that goes for making manga, too. And this author isn't a pervert at all. I just think they liked the aesthetics of perversion. It managed to completely fool me into thinking that this would be an interesting work, but I am saddened by the flaccidity in which it has decided to finish. It definitely lacked the courage to engorge itself and revel in its perverted potential.

All in all, this series was a dissapointment and I hate that I wasted time of my life following it.

I agree with most of what you've said. For me, Meguru should have been been an active character in the cast, and just stay the first love of Azuki. Meguru didn't brought much to the story and her own angst why really not that interested. I would have preferred if Azuki's story arc was about her getting over her trauma and embarrassing her hobby for herself only, and not as a way to cope with her trauma.

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