Reading the comment section is always as entertaining as the manga's drama.

I kind of get it, that people wants to defend the girl being cheated on, but Nanase is just a terrible girlfriend. First of all, she is the one who confessed. Which doesn't makes any sense, because she never makes time for her girlfriend, nor does she is showing much affection to her. Since the beginning, the fact that she is busy with her club is comprehensible, but she not only takes a lot of time for her club activities, but also spends tons of time with her club members, going out and celebrating. On top of that, she is also very close to her childhood friend and spends a lot of time with her. Yuni is just never on her mind.

None of the things above are problematic, but when you get yourself a girlfriend, and still doing all of the above, making no time for her, WHILE expecting your girlfriend to support you (like taking a round trip to Osaka which is super expensive, just to see your game, while not spending time with your gf outside of that)... This is just super selfish. Did she get a girlfriend just for emotional support when she needs it while not wanting to give anything in return? Because it does look like this to me. Just stay single if you can't chose between all of your priorities, there is nothing wrong with that...

Don't get me wrong, cheating is bad, and Yuni is a terrible girlfriend too. I will never justify cheating. But damn, Nanase is also an asshole, just not the same kind.

can you make more excuse harder for the dumb beloved Yuni? you spend a wall A WALL of text making excuses for way Yuni did what she did! Nanase is not an asshole but sure in your head all victims of cheating has to have a blame in the OTHER person cheating first, and continue to cheat and continue to be the biggest asshole ever

Damn, people can sure become emotional with this title (this is the kind of comments I enjoy reading lol). I've never said I excuse anything Yuni did. I was just making a case of why I think Nanase is a terrible gf. Both Can co-exist at the same time. The whole post is about Nanase, not Yuni. I don't justify in any way Yuni's action. Just because of is a cheater doesn't mean the other party is a good person...

Not that you care, but my moral standard for cheating is actually pretty high. I actuality don't think I can make a case for justifying cheating, not matter the situation. Because for me, cheating is not only breaking the trust of your partner but also breaking your self trust in the process. This is also about self respect.

Still, I stand by the fact that Nanase is a terrible girlfriend. Nya-chan's post is also making really good points about it as well.

Reading the comment section is always as entertaining as the manga's drama.

I kind of get it, that people wants to defend the girl being cheated on, but Nanase is just a terrible girlfriend. First of all, she is the one who confessed. Which doesn't makes any sense, because she never makes time for her girlfriend, nor does she is showing much affection to her. Since the beginning, the fact that she is busy with her club is comprehensible, but she not only takes a lot of time for her club activities, but also spends tons of time with her club members, going out and celebrating. On top of that, she is also very close to her childhood friend and spends a lot of time with her. Yuni is just never on her mind.

None of the things above are problematic, but when you get yourself a girlfriend, and still doing all of the above, making no time for her, WHILE expecting your girlfriend to support you (like taking a round trip to Osaka which is super expensive, just to see your game, while not spending time with your gf outside of that)... This is just super selfish. Did she get a girlfriend just for emotional support when she needs it while not wanting to give anything in return? Because it does look like this to me. Just stay single if you can't chose between all of your priorities, there is nothing wrong with that...

Don't get me wrong, cheating is bad, and Yuni is a terrible girlfriend too. I will never justify cheating. But damn, Nanase is also an asshole, just not the same kind.

Every few months, I'm stopping by one of the library in Tokyo with the largest yuri selection to buy some of the latest yuri release, and I was gladly surprised that the first volume of the manga was out in a physical release! I completely miss any announcement about it, but I remember Kabocha mentioning that a physical release would only happens if the ebook had decent sales, so I'm really happy for her!

The first volume has a few exclusive extra pages at the end. The ebook version as well, but the extra pages of the ebook are not in the physical release and the one in the physical release are not in the ebook version.

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I'm not sure why a lot of people are saying it's too late, while the fortune cookie tells otherwise. It's clearly a hint that Joe will do something about that situation.

Joe better step up his game, or he will forever regret this, him not doing anything and being a pussy, taking everything for granted.

Yeah, for sure, but at the same time, she is the one whom left. We don't know much about what happened back then but from the little we know about Joe, I think he could have considered them becoming a family. But it's really difficult to impose that on your partner if your partner never really hinted that it was something they wanted.

As always, communication issue at it's best. I hope they can resolve their issues now and from a happy little family :)

Funny, that's not how I read the situation at all with Kanna. For me, she is telling Aya something like "if being her friend is enough for you, don't dwell on it and enjoy the thing you wanted to do with her, without her.".
Basically, get over it and continue your life (like she did with Joe).

I still see her as an obstacle for them becoming a couple. She was the one pushing for Mitsuki to go to America. She will probably push her to follow music rather than a relationship with Aya. Of course, Mitsuki can do both. But I don't think Kanna wants to think it's possible. Otherwise, it would mean that maybe it could have been possible for her and Joe to find a way to stay together.

Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but that the impression I have of the situation.

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Probably the same for me. It was kind of fun up to a point, but this is seriously becoming ridiculous. I'm not even angry or anything, this is just ... bad.

It's always been a bit ridiculous. Remember the early silent second MC chapters (otherwise known as the "mysterious Yuzu" chapters, as b58 called them). It kind of improved for a bit but it's gone back to being very mechanical.

The characters don't act like real people. That happens in every story to some extent but normally the writer can mask it. Here you can constantly feel the writer kicking the ball down the road, hence the comments. People don't like when the mechanics are obvious and/or repetitive. This story has a lot of both.

Yeah, you are right, this is both a problem with the same gag being overused, and seing the author pulling the strings rather than feeling the characters are real (it can be a comedy while still having believable characters).

Even if they get together during next chapter, it won't even be enjoyable at this point.

The issue is not really the trope of having two characters obviously into each and not noticing it. This is fine and even cute/funny to an extent. But when one of the said character is being clearly explicit and the other reacts as "don't me make me wish for the impossible", this is just plain stupid... The girl said she wants you, and is trying to kiss you... What do you think she is going? Declaring to you that she is a really, really good friend?

At one point, the stupidity of a character stops being cute and is just annoying. But well, if some are still enjoying it, maybe there is a public for that.

Are people still enjoying this? Because at this point it's just sunk cost fallacy that keeps me here

Probably the same for me. It was kind of fun up to a point, but this is seriously becoming ridiculous. I'm not even angry or anything, this is just ... bad.

Aah, finally!
Just re-read LN vol 6+ recently, and am so glad at how well this was adapted.
Noice!

At which volume of the LN this moment occurs? I'm curious at how much I have to catch up if I pick up the LN.

That last panel—poor Aya . . .

I feel certain that all will be well in the end. But . . .poor Aya.

Yeah, it would be nice to see a bit more of Mitsuki's side as well. I know she admitted to herself that Aya was her safe place, but at the same time, we don't know that much about her own feelings and considering what is happening lately, i understand that Aya feels like Mitsuki doesn't need her anymore (not that it's true, but it does feel that way).

I'm definitely on the "Fuuko did nothing wrong" train lol. She has simply acted rationally in her own interest and has not violated any agreement or relationship she had with someone else. Yuni's cheating but Fuuko isn't.

Sure, she did not. Manipulation, black mailing, temptation... Pure as an angel.

She is my favorite character, but saying she did nothing wrong is pushing thing too far. If she did, she wouldn't even be an interesting character. For me, actively pursuing someone that is already in a relationship is also reprehensible as well. Presenting the option to the other party is one thing, but pushing for it is reprehensible in my book (not as much as cheating, of course). She is like an incarnation of temptation, it doesn't excuse Yuni's actions, but it doesn't make it less reprehensible as well.

It's understandable why Sendai isn't confessing. She was stopped by Miyagi. After that, I'll doubt she will say anything anytime soon.

That's why I started to lost interest a bit in the WN. The author is more interested into dragging the serie as long as possible, rather than having an organic progression. It was a nice chapter regardless, but I don't expect anything significant to happen before another 40-60 chapter (it seems like there is kind of a milestone happening very 50 chapter or so).

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is it's now clear that Sendai's student has a crush on her. And it seems that Sendai has picked up on this crush.

I wonder how this will come into play in future chapters. Will Miyagi somehow find out about this? Will the student(Kikyo?) continue to try to find ways to spend time with Sendai? Will Sendai have to let Kikyo know that she's more than just "roommates" with Miyagi so Kikyo knows she has no shot at romance with her.

I wouldn't call it a crush. She is just someone she is looking up to and admire. Not denying her potential feelings, but that's not how I read it.

I am curious if there is some kind of relevance to the moon and the clover maybe being related to their names? Like sharing a kanji or something maybe? It seemed to read that way. Hopefully someone with some Japanese knowledge can fill us in on that.

In the former Japanese calender, 葉月 Hazuki was just the Japanese name for August, it was later changed to 8月 (which just mean the 8th month of the year) but it's a popular name for girls, especially born in August.

As for the significance of the necklaces, Hazuki is written with the kanji for leaf (ha 葉) and moon (tsuki 月).

I don't know is there is a particular significance for the clover as a leaf though.

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but it might just skip ahead to the next day instead if the author wants to be a jerk and keep dragging out eeeevery possible bit of progress.

That is to be expected. I'm pretty much sure that even if Sendai will say she loves her, Miyagi just won't believe her and call her a liar :p

Edit: And they've mentioned "group date" several times, including this chapter. Is this like a mixer or something else?

Yeah, that's exactly that, those group date that university students often go to meet other people (from the opposite sex).

None of them are interested in that obviously, but it was mentioned a few times to test the water and see how the other would react.

I've only vaguely been aware of this and kind of mentally wrote this off as Miyagi's abandonment issues from her mother being projected onto Sendai. I'll add it to the list of subtle things I missed when reading the MTL.

She also has abandonment issue from her father, who promised her again and again that they would do stuff together while failing to fulfill those promises. That's why she doesn't trust Sendai when she does promises (also because for her, it's a very strong commitment while Sendai uses that word more lightly).

Also, damn, Miyagi really can't live down the running away accusations, huh? Can those who are caught up to the MTL not agree that she has grown past that, and very much demonstrated to Sendai that she has grown past that as well? Guess that one really stuck a nerve with y'all.

She has grown indeed. But that's why it's not the only thing that I mentioned. She is constantly denying what Sendai is saying with stuff like "liar", "don't make promises", "I don't trust you". She is showing again and again that she doesn't trust her intentions and actions.

And yeah, Sendai is pushy for sure, not denying that. But if she wasn't there wouldn't be any story to tell at this point :p

In the MTL it's also really easy to tell when a phrase that doesn't have a 1-to-1 direct English meaning gets used. Like when Miyagi tells Sendai that they are no longer roommates but they are "living in something important." You can tell that it's an upgrade from roommates and that's it's basically "we're important to each other but it's not a committed relationship," but it's so awkward to read. I had to stop and stare at it for a while to make it make sense because an English-speaker would never use words that way to describe a relationship.

To be fair, I read the novel in Japanese, and the Japanese itself is quite convoluted. It's not something that someone would normally tell in Japanese as well. I have no idea how I would translate that in a none awkward way as the Japanese itself if awkward.

And she is not even saying that they are important to each other. 大事なものに住んでる人 would translate more to "the person that lives in a place that is important". In reference to Sendai saying that the apartment is an important place to her (because it's the place where Miyagi is).

Miyagi is just so precious to me. She is definitely of my favorite characters in a story. She deserves someone who will tell her that she is loved and cherished, and she deserves someone to tell her that they want to be with her forever, but unfortunately she is stuck with Sendai.

While I do love both characters, I would definitely think the other way around, given how much time, thought and affection and much more Sendai is giving to Miyagi compare to the other way around. Again, I do like both characters, but Miyagi is sure a pain in the ass. They have been living together for more than a year at this point, and only now, she have just made her mind about doing a nice gesture to Sendai, to show her her affection. And even then, she is a pain about it.

You have to love her as she is, but I'd personally would never be able to put up with that for so long. Sendai is a saint x) Love is a verb, and in that sense, Sendai is showing her love to Miyagi all the time. She is just not expressing herself verbally.

It was in another thread, so I don't remember it exactly but someone was saying that Sendai was a coward for not expressing verbally her love to Miyagi. But I would argue that Miyagi is even more of a coward as she is not even able to admit to herself that she is in love. And I don't buy the "she hasn't sort out her feelings". In my view, she is actively trying not to sort her feelings, she is putting energy into NOT doing that. In that way she is a coward. And while Sendai could have confessed by now, I also want to insist on the fact that not only Miyagi has run away once, but more than than, she never trusts Sendai's word when she makes a promise or is showing her affection. Tbh, it must be hard to confess to that kind of girl...

Btw, this is not a rent towards Miyagi as well. I do love them both. I'm just surprised to see people "siding" more on Miyagi's side.

Regardless, I think we can all agree on the way the author is now calling the WN on twitter: "面倒くさい女の子×面倒くさい女の子の共依存百合です". "A co-dependence Yuri of an annoying girl x an annoying girl".

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Not even gonna bother addressing the person thinking Koto wasn't being abusive in that moment, I think Aya running away from her is enough to say that that's how she read the situation, even if she did water it down in summarizing it later with Erika.

Well, you just did. To have an abusive behavior, you need a clear intend to harm. It is just not the case. Her trauma makes her say irrational and hurtful things, that doesn't mean it was the intent. Two actions can have the same results while being different.

Not even Aya reads the situation as being abusive. She is running away because she is unable to confront Koto seing her as a child, this is clearly express afterward. Nothing is showing that she thinks she was a victim of abuse.

Except it wasn't physical, which makes all the difference. To call Koto's behavior abusive, in my own definition, it would need to be a repetitive behavior. As a one time thing, it's out of line and not acceptable, especially with the age difference. But an isolated incident is not an abusive behavior, at least for me. And in terms of storytelling, the point of that scene was to show us her breaking point, not to show her becoming an abusive person. With this story, I feel like people are too quick to call behaviors as toxic, abusive or crossing a line.

Without going into details about my personal life (not interesting anyway), the reason I'd like to see the Aya/Koto relationship works is because I once was in Koto's shoes. Some past trauma made me possessive and jealous, to an extent it wasn't healthy. And the same as Koto, I wasn't aware of my own trauma.

The reason I was able to get past it, understand my own trauma and work on it was because I met someone that loved me enough to put up with my shit and see through it. If it wasn't for that person, who stucked with me while I was processing all of that, I don't think I would have been able to even be aware of my issues. Funny enough, I was around the same age as Koto as well when it happened (and that person was a bit younger as well, not as much though).

And while Aya is young, I definitely think she can be that person for Koto, while Koto supports her while we can finish her study and becoming a proper adult in society's eye. If they can make it work, it could end up being a strong and lasting relationship.

Erika on the other end doesn't seem fit for that role. She is too focused on her own feelings to be able to give the help or even just the push Koto needs. I don't hate the character though. Overall, she is still doing a lot for Aya, and while she does have ulterior motives, which makes her feels pathetic and like a bad person, she is still doing a lot for her regardless. If it wasn't for those flashbacks, and being able to read her thoughts, I don't think anyone would think badly of her. I don't see any of her behavior as actively trying to sabotage Aya/Koto's relationship either. That's what she hopes, but not how she behaves. Even asking the question "do you really love present Koto" is legitimate. Aya never questioned her feelings for Koto, and it's definitely necessary for their relationship to work properly. And yes, I know it's not what Erika is wishing for, but it doesn't mean the question is out of line/crossing a line.

tl:dr
While not behaving at their best, I think all characters's behaviors are relatable and understandable. This whole story seems to be written to allow those characters to go past their own flaw and trauma, in order to become better persons. That's the way I see it.

she's actually a nuanced character that puts a lot of thought into her relationship with Adachi.

Agreed but I'd add that...

she's actually a nuanced character that puts a lot of thought into [ nearly every aspect of her life ].

She's one of the most thoughtful MCs I've read and not over simple topics either. Very introspective and questioning. She really wants to define herself at every opportunity and feels uncomfortable when she can't do so. That makes her "slow" because she takes time to think things through first or to wonder about her experiences. That's largely why she gets misunderstood at times.

I do agree and for me that's the biggest selling point of AdaShima. But to be fair, being that thoughtful is not healthy. Instead of living in the present, it almost feels like she is an external character to the story, analysing what is happening. But this is what makes the character unique and what makes me want to see her evolve past that. The spontaneity of Adachi is certainly helping her in that regard.

I don't think there's anything unhealthy about it and she has no real issues in her life that would necessitate a change. Maybe we just use the word "unhealthy" differently. But I agree: her and Adachi definitely do balance each other out for sure.

Unhealthy was a poor choice of word indeed. But to be in a proper relationship she needs to learn to be more spontaneous and to be more in phase with her/other people's feelings. At the current time, she often Cannot react to Adachi's actions because she needs to process them first. Which in a way is good, but it kills the spontaneity and the magic a bit.

she's actually a nuanced character that puts a lot of thought into her relationship with Adachi.

Agreed but I'd add that...

she's actually a nuanced character that puts a lot of thought into [ nearly every aspect of her life ].

She's one of the most thoughtful MCs I've read and not over simple topics either. Very introspective and questioning. She really wants to define herself at every opportunity and feels uncomfortable when she can't do so. That makes her "slow" because she takes time to think things through first or to wonder about her experiences. That's largely why she gets misunderstood at times.

I do agree and for me that's the biggest selling point of AdaShima. But to be fair, being that thoughtful is not healthy. Instead of living in the present, it almost feels like she is an external character to the story, analysing what is happening. But this is what makes the character unique and what makes me want to see her evolve past that. The spontaneity of Adachi is certainly helping her in that regard.