Are false nails not a thing in Japan? Or is it that Aya is too stressed out to think about them at the moment?

There are some nail salon in Japan, but it's not that common and long fake nail don't seem to be as fashionable as it is in the west. I actually don't like long nail, especially when they are fake, so it's something I tend to notice and I don't see that often girls with long fake nails in Japan. When I do, mostly, it seems to be university students.

So my guess is that it's not a reflex for her, if she never did it before.

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Can't blame Elsa for her reaction, and it's totally understandable that Yvonne hide it from her as well. I think what hurts Elsa the most is more about coming to the realization that Yvonne was not her destined soul, because it's what gave her strength all of those years.

But I think she will come to realize that without that fake destiny, she wouldn't have fought so hard to be with Yvonne and in the end, this is what she truely wanted. It's only because she wanted her that she thought she was her destined soulmate. So in a way, that fake destiny was her own way of giving her strength to pursue her. I find it even more romantic :)

I don't think the angst will last long, but Elsa definitely needs time to herself to sort out what she just learned.

Aya, girl, like

the nails were gonna be gone sooner or later

Haha, nailed it!

Why would she have PTSD, though? What Sorawo went through is no big deal; it's a fairly common story, really.

This comment is hilarious to me. Are you also disassociated from the real world? - although this time, because of too much fiction. Characters in stories frequently go through a lot of trauma that's just depicted as NBD normal because of the particular story they're in. In real life ... not so much.

It's considered no big deal by Sorawo herself, as a narrator. Which is logical, when it's all you know, it's your normal. But everyone around her consider her story as a big deal. So even from a fictional point of view, this is not considered normal.

I don't think Sorawo is oblivious to her feelings for Toriko, she's just struggling to process them because half her emotional bandwidth is wrapped up in raw dogging PTSD while Japan's inadequate mental health support system shoots finger guns at her. [...]

Why would she have PTSD, though? What Sorawo went through is no big deal; it's a fairly common story, really.

You mean, having her mother die at a young age, then having her remaining family (father and grandmother) wrapped up in a cult, having that cult ruining her family, then trying to recruit her as well? Or do you mean her running away when the cult was planning to adduct her, or when she was planing to burn her house with her family and her at the same time and only to discover that they already died in an accident involving the cult?

Pretty classic childhood indeed. Nothing to be traumatized about.

I'm kinda getting sick of how Toriko is trying to force something that is only just developing and only focusing on her own feelings instead of seeing how Sorawo is suffering because of this behavior.

Novel volume 8 spoilers:

The reason Toriko acts like that is because literally since the first moment they met, Sorawo's been shamelessly staring at her tits, which Toriko took as an invitation. One of the great uses of unreliable narration in fiction

I don't think it was her tits specifically? I was under the impression that she's just been staring in general, at Toriko's face as well, I can't find the specific moment this was brought up, though. I agree that it was great to get a confirmation of just how unreliable a narrator Sorawo can be. I find that one of the best things in this series is to try and read between the lines and notice what Sorawo tries to conceal or just doesn't even realize, about herself and others too. It's especially fun in the book, where she almost always tries to downplay her emotions, but getting to see expressions in the manga is also great.

It was her whole body, the point is she's been looking at Toriko in a sexual way since the very beginning, she just didn't realize.
you can't spoiler embedded images, so here's a link instead, spoilers for vol 8 https://files.catbox.moe/o4fcug.jpeg
When Toriko said she loved Sorawo for the first time after fighting the cult, she wasn't doing it as a "confession", she thought she was responding to Sorawo's unverbalized but incredibly obvious feelings for her. She had no idea Sorawo was totally oblivious to her own feelings and thus assumed it was mutual and they were a couple. Which is why she was so absolutely gobsmacked by Sorawo's "you're acting like my boyfriend" comment.

It's even more fun to think about it with what happens in volume 7.
Even amnesic Sorawo think for a while that they may be going out, given what she understands of the situation. That even shock Toriko so much that she hands up slapping Sorawo haha ...

god yess we're entering one of my favorite files. probably the most significant event for their relationship. i really hope the manga can adapt it well!!

One of my favorite as well! Makes me want to re-read it.

This manga is so awesome.

Indeed. The introspection aspect is so great. I really should read the novel, but it's a bit off putting that there are so many volumes.

The dad might actually not be so bad? Interesting lol

Maybe he is good person, but he is definitely a bad father.

Lots of good arguments that goes both way. I like the one that says that if this is the only thing that would arouse someone, that would be considered a fetish for that person.

But at least, we can all agree that both MCs are displaying unusual fetishes :p

I find it strange how focused many people are on women's breasts (at least in the culture's I'm familiar with), but society won't let me get away with calling that a fetish precisely because it is normalized.

Here is the first definition that pops when googling fetish definition:
"a form of sexual desire in which gratification is strongly linked to a particular object or activity or a part of the body other than the sexual organs."

Breasts are literally sexual organs, therefore it is not a fetish. Enhanced why many people like breasts. We are probably wired to like them.

I really hope Kabocha sensei is doing better , I bought two copies of volume one to show support .
I haven't been able to find the other volumes . But I hope this series continues and Kabocha recovers well

Kabocha posted a message on PixivFanbox saying they are slowly doing better. They started drawing a bit which they haven't done for while, with another title but there is still no sign of continuing this manga for now.

So, they are doing better, I'll take that :)

I feel like I'm the only one who genuinely enjoys the writing. It's fucking good, delicious food to me. These girls are so messy and self-sabotaging, but they want each other so bad.

I do like it, but I consider it my Yuri junk food. I can't, in all honesty, say it's good, because the writing is pretty bad and messy, but it's bad and messy in a good way (like junk food :p).

Maybe I have too much hope, but Takahiko seems fairly decent all things considered. He wants to be better than his father and marry into a good family, yes, but those things aren't mutually exclusive with Ayano and Tsubaki having a relationship. I don't think he'd be too happy with becoming a beard, but whatever.

ew, i do not like the implication of that >.> cuz they will have to also have a child for that to not look like something is not right, also whats with the whole discussion about “show how to fulfill her obligations property” ?

I’m inches away on regretting reading this and not wait for the story to finish and whatever is a tragedy or some bittersweet ending with Ayano having a child but also having Tsubaki as a mistress >.> OR a happy ending? but the chances are getting lower chapter by chapter T^T

First time picking this one up, but I don't think it's going into a bad direction. The way I see it, it will finish with both girls together, earning money from Ayano's cloths designs (with Tsubaki as her model) that she will sell to brothels. It's already been hinted that the brothel is interested and they have an ally into the brothel already.

As for the fiancé, he doesn't seem like a bad person, even if he has ulterior motives. He is also a prisoner of his condition and family and I wouldn't be surprised he ends up being an ally once his situation will be resolved.

Anyway, quite a refreshing manga.

A video game company in which artists have a single monitor? Poor employees.

Poly outcome where MC dates both sisters.

Throw in the mischievous classmate for added flavor

Flavor? Or toxicity? That girl is a landmine that would probably blow up the entire relationship.

But that would be fun in it's own way. I do like toxic yuri.

I mean, she sure is toxic but so is the MC ^^'

I think the situation is delicate in a way that therapy not being on the table is something I find easy to accept, at least this early. The thing about therapy is that -except when mandated by court order or you get committed/taken in by ambulance- it's voluntary and requires some level of willingness. And it can be hard to realize that you need it if nobody around you suggests it in an encouraging, non-judgmental way.

I'm just going to go there and say therapy isn't as good as people say it is.* The therapy techniques are not backed by science (ie the techniques perform similarly, even ones that are less scientific sounding like crystal energy healing). People subjectively liking how something feels isn't the same as improved clinical outcomes. See bath salts for an example**.

I'm not saying it -can't- help people, but people act like it's a miracle treatment suitable for all people if only they are willing to give it a try. This would make it unlike any other kind of treatment that has a failure rate, even among people who properly follow the treatment plan.

Not being able to talk about their relationship with anyone at all ends up being the root of a lot of challenges for them and so a therapist might help in that sense. I can't imagine most of the ones I've seen really understanding their situation or being able to respond in a helpful way, though. As a web novel reader, I just want them to talk with Maika... Okay, who am I kidding, I want more drama as they dig their hole deeper.

*I could say more about my personal situation, but I've had more success with non-therapy measures despite trying extensive therapy with different therapists over many years while doing my best to take it seriously. There's no one size fits all approach to healthcare.

** Yes, therapy is more likely to help than bath salts. It's just an example.

It's pretty rare to see people that understand that therapy is not the magic solution everyone says it is. It does help some people (and it did help me to be fair) but it also does harm to some people (mostly because there are a lot of bad therapists on the market, I must admit...).

But there are many ways of dealing with trauma/issues, and therapy is not really popular in Japan. That why is always make me laugh a bit when people are mentioning therapy for Japanese characters. Talking about therapy in Japan is seeing Japanese society with a western lens and it doesn't apply very well. I'm not saying that there are no therapist in Japan btw, just saying that is not common and therefore it's not something that we can expect to see in fiction as a way to resolve characters' issues.

Someone on Dex mentioned this, but Mitsuki had her shirt unbuttoned coming into the dance but buttoned up coming out of the room with Aya, so....you know....

In the last panel of the first page of last chapter, we can see the sole of both of their shoes (https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/the_guy_she_was_interested_in_wasnt_a_guy_at_all_ch117). I wasn't able to make sense of that panel before but it seems like they had an intense make out session (with Aya topping Mitsuki).

Anyone guessing what is the thing that fell on the floor in the same panel?

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I know I will be probably the only one to think this, but if they do kiss after this scene, whether it's next chapter or not, I'll be disappointed.

The reason why is that we never got to see Mitsuki realizing her feelings for Aya. Nor even question her sexuality. But we got her internal monologue for other aspects of the story, so it's not like we are strangers to her internal process. For all we have been shown so far, while it's obvious that Aya have feeling for Mitsuki, the reverse could be false. Mitsuki could see Aya as just a really good friend and it wouldn't wrong how the story have been written so far. Of course, I know it's not the case, but for the sake of storytelling, it does bother me and break a bit the suspension of disbelief.

So in a way, if it were to happen now, it would feel fake for me. The chapter is great, and as much as I want to see them together, I do feel like it's missing some chapters of Mitsuki internal process to arrive to that result.

Adding the Exes tag without the incest tag is wild

Putting the incest and Kasane's horniness aside, I hope I'm not the only one that does think the father's actions are off putting.

"You are forbidden from seeing your sister and now I will marry you off to my older dude friend" just gives me all the wrong vibes.

Honestly, I agree with Meguru that it makes me want to throw up. Not sure why but I find it especially gross in this story - maybe because I'm afraid they'll just have Hiromi married off and never bring it up again. I'm not saying Hiromi should get with her sister but she deserves better than "live according to your father's wishes and maybe he'll allow you to do things :^)"

Oh yeah the father is disgusting. She's an adult and she's only allowed to see her sister if the father "allows" it? Fuck that. Also marrying his daughter off to a man that looks like him? Fucking weird. She needs to find personal agency and rebel against him.

I wouldn't want my pedo adult daughter near my minor daughter either so separating them was the correct decision. Forcibly marrying the older daughter ain't good tho.

Actually, scratch that. This wouldn't be happening if Onee-san didn't prey on Meguru when she was 12, she's only going along with marriage to absolve herself from it. I don't feel bad for her at all.

This is not her being forcibly closeted for being gay, this is her running away from the situation she created for herself. She's just trying to show her dad that she won't mess with Meguru anymore

Damn, finally someone that is talking about the sister's behavior... While the father went too far, Meguru was the one at fault and I don't feel bad for her as well... I almost feel like Meguru did follow what her father was telling her to do just so she wouldn't have to reflect on what she did.

Honestly, the only one I have sympathy for is the little sister (and the ex, she's nice), all the other characters are just fucked up and shouldn't be near the little sister.

the only 'terrible thing' erika did in the past was make a wish that someone they are jealous of/angry at disappears lol. What angsty teen hasn't wished someone would disappear.

Yeah. Typical "What angsty teen hasn't done or said something" defense lol.
I can understand as a immature teen couldn't help her thought like"My life would have been much better without that fucker". But actually act on it, especially when "that fucker" is one of your best friends, for the stupidest reason ever like "oh, she steal my crush who l like first even though she has no way of knowing it cause my cowardice", is a totally different story.

Please be explicit. What do you mean by act on it? Beyond making a wish at Tanabata which no one would reasonably expect to be literally actualized, what did she do?

Well, well, well. Another Erika's defender showing up yelling "She has done nothing wrong" is indeed one of my enjoyment now lol.

Look. She not only has the thought of wishing someone disappear, she actually writes it on tanzaku and hangs it up on bamboo. The hint in https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/how_to_break_a_triangle_ch17#34 is very obvious. She also apparently had a fight with poor Aya, who sincerely takes Erika as her best friend and has no way of knowing Erika's secret love. Considering Aya's good character, it must have been Erika's one side argument. Like hysterically screaming at Aya "l like her first", "Koto would eventually love me back if not for you", "You are just a stone between us", "l never consider you as my friend", "Why wouldn't you disappear?".
Yeah. What did she do? Ofc goddess Erika did nothing wrong ┑(￣Д ￣)┍

Like I said, this person is writing fanfic—the same fanfic over, and over, and over (although now with imaginary dialogue). Normal logic has nothing to do with the argument.

“Normal” would be understanding that lots of people wish for someone to disappear all the time without ever expecting that the person will actually disappear.

Like me. Right now.

You got me there, had a good chuckle x)

When people are so judgemental of others, for actions that most are deeming normal or at least understandable, I always wonder if they truly have really high moral standards or if they are just cruelly missing empathy. I won't say which one I think it is, but have my guess.

Because it was my turn to misunderstand someone, clearly. I missed that sentence, so the first time I thought it was referenced was Aikosaurus posting a disagreement to me. Though rosetammy has since acknowledged the reality of women's pants.

Apologies if I came across as scolding, in any case. I can go sit in a corner and scold myself instead.

Well, it's mostly my fault, sorry. I did misinterpret part of your post but I also didn't quote Rosetammy's post, even if I was mostly answering to that sentence in my post "We can switch her face with a man at any moment and wouldn't feel out of place.".

I never thought you had regressive thoughts about Japan, quite the contrary.

I have to admit, I have been a bit frustrated with that user because they are quite rude and condescending. But answering rudely on my side because of it is definitely not smart... My bad.

Btw, have any idea what happened on Kabocha recently? She haven't updated her Twitter nearly two months

She wrote about having a mental breakdown a few months ago on her Pivix fanbox. That's when the publication schedule changed from one chapter a month, to one every two months. At that time, she wasn't active on Twitter as well. My guess is that she had relapse (but I hope I'm wrong and she is just taking a break).

I think you are misunderstanding me. I am saying that to me being normatively feminine can involve pants, rather than precluding ("precluding" means "not being possible with") pants. Therefore pants being acceptable doesn't show a lack of pressure to dress femininely as I define the word.

Sorry, I misinterpreted the word precluding indeed.

I guess my standards for "femininely" aren't so strict as to preclude pants, so we can go with another word if we want. Implying women in Japan don't wear due to the supposedly alien culture was the type of thing I was wanting to avoid, but I do have the impression that beauty standards are somewhat stricter.

Most women are wearing pants in Japan and are still feminine. Even most office lady are wearing pants nowadays. It's 2024, even in Japan...

Saying that just because she is wearing pants, we can switch Erika's face with a man and it wouldn't be out of place is nonsense. You can be plenty feminine while wearing pants... Pants for girls are not cut the same way as the one for guys, same goes for Tshirt, shirt or any other type of cloth. Erika is definitely feminine in her way of dressing up. Not overly, but she is. Honestly, both her style and Koto's style are pretty standard if you are looking at women in their 20ties in Japan. In contrast, it is true that Aya is dressing in a more childish way.

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