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joined Apr 4, 2019

This girl is such a pushover and suffers for it. She really needs to learn when to say no; to her girlfriend when that ridiculous race happened and now to her boss.

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joined Mar 23, 2022

Daymmmm pretty sure she gonna missed that race, and viola drama here we goooo

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joined Sep 15, 2019

I hope the next chapter she just says no. God please!

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

I hope the next chapter she just says no. God please!

That would be nice...but for as much as I still genuinely have love for this series, we just can't seem to avoid drama that's easily avoidable sadly. Maybe I'll come back in a few chapters once the drama gets resolved and we get some fluff again, at least assuming we follow the usual pattern that should in theory make it easier to get through.

joined Jul 8, 2020

Oh boy there would be a mess next chapter for sure haha. But things like this good for their development though.

joined Jan 14, 2020

I will grant that giving in to your elderly employer makes a lot more sense than giving in to your roommate on a stupid bet.

Yuibless
joined Jan 30, 2017

If three different employees all quit in the same month there must be something going on at this workplace.

PLEASE JUST SAY NO

Old_Man_Majes
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joined Oct 25, 2022

Yeah, it'd be nice if Yamada just said no, but we all know that isn't going to happen.

Would be a great sign of character development if she did though.

joined Apr 2, 2023

At this rate she’ll miss the race because she’s at the hospital from collapsing. She’s a pushover but who would have guessed there’d be a florist black company. I mean damn. Just put up a closed sign for the afternoon. If the streamers are true the idea of regular hours for shops are quite nebulous in Japan anyways.

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joined Oct 22, 2018

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joined Jun 11, 2016

eh I find this at least believable and definitely something that could happen in college when you try too hard to get the best of everything, much better than that weird roommate race thingy.

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joined Apr 6, 2017

Here we go with more forced drama. Obviously she will say yes and 10am race her boss won't come back after a hour and she won't make it to the race.

The quality of the series really went down hill. I think ever since they switched publication or whatever it was and then started the sequel series.

Maybe the author doesn't know how to write a none high school story proper so just forces the drama to make a story. Or they have a editor that is pushing them to add drama.

joined Dec 23, 2016

oh boy oh boy this sure is another conflict created by a failure to communicate with each other

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Ah, I see it's Yamada's turn to cause the friction at last. It's mostly been Kase until now...

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joined Jun 21, 2021

Here we go with more forced drama. Obviously she will say yes and 10am race her boss won't come back after a hour and she won't make it to the race.

The quality of the series really went down hill. I think ever since they switched publication or whatever it was and then started the sequel series.

Maybe the author doesn't know how to write a none high school story proper so just forces the drama to make a story. Or they have a editor that is pushing them to add drama.

idk what's the problem here, taking too many things on your plate and struggling with priorities is a really common thing to happen. And it was properly set up and everything too.

Like, what do you even want? Would you rather there'd never be any sort of conflict bc apparently any kinda complications count as "forced drama" now. Is a story devoid of problems where nothing ever happens so there's no "drama" what you want? bc that's how you get "no substance, fluff only" slice of life 4-koma strips.

(which have their place of course but then ppl complain about how there's no "development" and nothing ever happens so, y'know, damned if you do, damned if you don't)

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joined Mar 4, 2018

Oh, here we go again. Why can't they just be sweeties like in the first season?!

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joined Apr 22, 2024

They both need to priorize their relationship above all else, well... welcome to japan, i guess XD

I hope that she will arrive "in extremis" when Kase is about to lose, and kase will have a boost just from seeing her and win the race.

Hmmm... I wonder why three of their workers quit lately...

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joined Aug 14, 2020

Ye of little faith I swear. Yamada's gonna make that race if it's the last thing she does.

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joined Jul 29, 2024

don't say yes : /

joined Jan 14, 2020

idk what's the problem here, taking too many things on your plate and struggling with priorities is a really common thing to happen. And it was properly set up and everything too.

The forced drama is "Yamada made a promise, circumstances seem likely to get Yamada to break her promise, Kase will be disappointed, etc"

As I said, it is rather more natural than the previous forced drama of the race. Feel obliged (especially in Japan) to (a) your employer and (b) much older women is pretty plausible.

OTOH it's coming not long after the race BS, and the author made up the employment pressure to apparently insert more drama, so many of us are tired.

If Yamada learns from recent history and actually holds a line, we'll change our opinion, but right now it's "oh no, not again". Author burned up her credit with the race stuff.

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

idk what's the problem here, taking too many things on your plate and struggling with priorities is a really common thing to happen. And it was properly set up and everything too.

The forced drama is "Yamada made a promise, circumstances seem likely to get Yamada to break her promise, Kase will be disappointed, etc"

As I said, it is rather more natural than the previous forced drama of the race. Feel obliged (especially in Japan) to (a) your employer and (b) much older women is pretty plausible.

OTOH it's coming not long after the race BS, and the author made up the employment pressure to apparently insert more drama, so many of us are tired.

If Yamada learns from recent history and actually holds a line, we'll change our opinion, but right now it's "oh no, not again". Author burned up her credit with the race stuff.

Yeah there's a lot of not learning from these things and a lack of character progression generally speaking. They found a good place together, and are enjoying their apartment life, that's some solid progression in terms of where the characters are at physically...but we need more emotional character growth as well.

I would love to be wrong and for the author to surprise us here, but right now for as much as I'd love to defend the series I definitely get a strong feeling of "here we go again" energy.

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

As much as Yamada loves working with plants, that place is going to be the death of her if this keeps up, and they better not make her miss Kase's race... In fact, the moment they try to make her stay even longer than already asked, she'd better quit and go to her girlfriend right away.

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joined Mar 6, 2021

idk what's the problem here, taking too many things on your plate and struggling with priorities is a really common thing to happen. And it was properly set up and everything too.

No, it wasn't. Adding random mass resignations from a florist's shop just to make your main character be the only employee "available" on the one specific day that they requested a day off isn't "properly setting up" anything. It's silly and it's even more silly after the ridiculous previous arc.

Like, what do you even want? Would you rather there'd never be any sort of conflict bc apparently any kinda complications count as "forced drama" now. Is a story devoid of problems where nothing ever happens so there's no "drama" what you want? bc that's how you get "no substance, fluff only" slice of life 4-koma strips.

(which have their place of course but then ppl complain about how there's no "development" and nothing ever happens so, y'know, damned if you do, damned if you don't)

The problem with this manga is that there is never any real development. There is drama, which a lot of the time stems from the characters' shortcomings —i.e. Yamada generally being a doormat— but the characters never seem to have learned much by the end of it. Combine that with an oftentimes unlikely set-up and it ends up feeling contrived.

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

idk what's the problem here, taking too many things on your plate and struggling with priorities is a really common thing to happen. And it was properly set up and everything too.

No, it wasn't. Adding random mass resignations from a florist's shop just to make your main character be the only employee "available" on the one specific day that they requested a day off isn't "properly setting up" anything. It's silly and it's even more silly after the ridiculous previous arc.

I will say in fairness this feels kind of like my friend's life, at least in terms of sudden overtime. Unfortunately she gets a lot of extra hours at work as one of the main reliable employees at her job.

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joined Sep 10, 2022

Like, what do you even want? Would you rather there'd never be any sort of conflict bc apparently any kinda complications count as "forced drama" now. Is a story devoid of problems where nothing ever happens so there's no "drama" what you want? bc that's how you get "no substance, fluff only" slice of life 4-koma strips.

Often when people say "forced drama," what they mean is "bad drama." This series has a lot of bad drama, as others have explained. I would love some good drama, instead. This isn't it.

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