i see we're all being very normal about compulsory heterosexuality

What exactly does that mean?

Are not enough people lamenting that comphet exists? Are not enough readers excoriating Ema for bowing to it? So what else should “we” doing about the theme of comphet in this story?

Just lamenting the takes that Ema marrying Hario was somehow a purely selfish and cynical act on her part, and not the result of horrific external pressures and expectations. Could have chosen my words better, it just gets very exhausting yk

i see we're all being very normal about compulsory heterosexuality

Is it really "willingly" when she was manipulated by him? He was about to put them into an even more dangerous situation, pretty much cornering Matsuri. Her and Koyomi are both the victims here—he literally targeted a vulnerability (her love for her daughter AND him) so he could get out of the pit he dug himself and push all the blame on her, all while acting like he actually cared.

She could leave him and seek help; instead she went and committed a crime while he had his handss clean and now while she's in prison she left her daughter with a man who can easily sell her organs to pay his gambling debts.
Women who enable their scum husbands are to blame too.

what a fuckin wretched mentality you have

we should all love women the way sal jiang loves women

gee whiz someone tell these lassies about polyamory

Helll yeahhhh tell him gurllll louder for his old stupid brain cells at the back! Damnn imagine all the satisfaction if he managed to punch that homophobic man. But still what a satisfying chapter! I really love how he stood up for himself and give his two cents on his homophobic father.

i wouldn't get too excited pal i think the dad is about to upgrade from domestic violence to state violence

It's written on the first page of every chapter: she's 24 and Ai is even younger

right so they're basically babies

tried to make her fit in the "normal" life she aspired to, even though it goes against Ai's nature and the very nature of their relationship (lesbians).

gonnae need you to explain this supposed "nature" of lesbian relationships pal

Not only is she innocent and dependent, but she’s also really young, I believe she’s only 20. Considering her age, it makes sense that she was overly dependent and naïve toward her ex, who was already married, no less.

Possibly the most astute comment here. 20 year olds are insane. Nobody has a healthy relationship at 20, you simply haven't had time to make all the mistakes you need to make to learn how to navigate that level of intimacy with another whole-ass person. Healthy relationships require years of experience.

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team i don't think this one has a happy ending

a succubus's natural enemy... someone on the ace spectrum

Is anyone else absolutely exhausted by the prevalance of "jealousy is an important aspect of romantic attraction and its a problem if you don't experience it"

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love to show concern for my girlfriend's wellbeing by refusing to come home and support her

GO TO THERAPY

good god send her back two weeks, that look is fuckin dyno

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Sorry bud, wasn't having a go at you, just Brains "trans is just a label and nonbinary people can be cis actually" Genius here. You cannot convince me anyone who says ""alternative sexualities/gender communities" is arguing in good faith

Still a bad faith gross misrepresentation

My point wasn't that "trans people don't exist" or "trans people should stay out of media", just that in this particular instance, Ren just doesn't conform to what's expected of her gender and immediately people, in and out-universe, try to put a label on her, whether trans, enby, or something, which is EXACTLY what makes the character suffer in the first place.

Ren is Ren. Not a flag.

Ren is a fictional character and subject to intepretation/literary analysis bud, you don't need to protect her feelings

This might be one of the most exhaustive attempts at "I don't want to see trans people in media but still want to appear progressive" I've seen. The idea that anyone has ever been pressured into being trans is pure TERF fantasy.

This seems like a gross misrepresentation of the entire conversation here. Quite the opposite, more representation for any minorities, including trans, can only be a good thing. Even if experience shows that especially with manga it's always smarter to expect more traditional characters and be pleasantly surprised when they turn out to be different, rather than expect a character to be trans, ace, aro, etc. and be disappointed when this turns out to be not the case. But in this particular case, people in the story have specifically caused this girl a lot of pain exactly because they have questioned her identity mostly based on her more androgynous looks. If I may have come across as accusing the commenters of the manga of doing the same, I apologize, my point was only that the events of this chapter may have made some of them feel like they've been doing the same as the people in the story.

Sorry bud, wasn't having a go at you, just Brains "trans is just a label and nonbinary people can be cis actually" Genius here. You cannot convince me anyone who says ""alternative sexualities/gender communities" is arguing in good faith

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Nobody was pushing anything, only suggesting that could be the case, especially when being forced to act in that gendered way and suffering deeply because of it is an experience many trans people share.
Especially with a scene like this this, come on. Those characters aren't "pushing her to be trans", they're treating her as an other for not living up to womanhood, which nobody here did when they implied to share a similar struggle with her and relate as a trans person.

Nobody was pushing anything, only suggesting that could be the case, especially when being forced to act in that gendered way and suffering deeply because of it is an experience many trans people share.
Especially with a scene like this this, come on. Those characters aren't "pushing her to be trans", they're treating her as an other for not living up to womanhood, which nobody here did when they implied to share a similar struggle with her and relate as a trans person.

Just "suggesting that could be the case" is exactly what made Ren suffer in the first place. It's the constant noise around her about defining who she is. Whether it's girl, boy, trans, or non-binary, it looks like after puberty, Ren was constantly surrounded by static noise about putting her in a little box, how she should act, or not, or even ask if she'd considered GRS.

That's what the spread pages 12-13 expresses : Ren is fed up and just wants the noise to stop.

So that's why Matsuri's cheerfully babbling away about random stuff and NOT about her gender/sexuality or whatever was like music to her and made the noise stop for a time. That's what she means when she says Matsuri created a world where she could be herself. By never trying to fit her in a little box, but just being the friend of "Ren".

And unsurprisingly, there's also a lot of noise around here from people trying to say Ren is trans or whatever, trying to put a label on her. People invested in the "alternative sexualities/gender" communities, which are numerous around here, tend to want to put labels on everyone. But some people don't want to be labeled. She's Ren, not a label and these people would probably hurt her too, even if not out of malice.

This might be one of the most exhaustive attempts at "I don't want to see trans people in media but still want to appear progressive" I've seen. The idea that anyone has ever been pressured into being trans is pure TERF fantasy.

goin back to chapter 1 to see what this is all about and immediately getting hit with the transphobia was a bit of a fuckin whiplash ngl

oh boy oh boy this sure is another conflict created by a failure to communicate with each other

big polyamory tag w

Oh thank god I was worried there might be some progression for a moment there

not gonnae lie i felt a palpable sense of relief when i flipped the page and they were actually kissing. god fucking bless!!!!!

it's censored because their lipstick might get smudged

if this story goes down the route of "I am not less of a person or less deserving of respect because I am a sex worker" I will be very, very impressed

"Emotionally cheating" please never get into a real relationship

Nanase, still the worst girlfriend ever.

This manga is a really good litmus test for people to out themselves as bad relationship material. Yuni was cheating on Nanase as recently as last chapter.