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stab each other with their fingers

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joined Sep 27, 2017

I think a "shared bath" situation is a possibility.

stab each other with their fingers

Incoming nipple jabbing arc

joined Feb 2, 2021

I think a "shared bath" situation is a possibility.

stab each other with their fingers

Incoming nipple jabbing arc

Sure hope a bath scene is the maximum extent on how far these go. I don't see how this could be salvaged after an actual rape scene.

One of Wakabas friends need to save her, or someone should suplex blondie out of orbit.

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joined Sep 27, 2017

I think a "shared bath" situation is a possibility.

stab each other with their fingers

Incoming nipple jabbing arc

Sure hope a bath scene is the maximum extent on how far these go. I don't see how this could be salvaged after an actual rape scene.

One of Wakabas friends need to save her, or someone should suplex blondie out of orbit.

Yeah I'm hoping sex only happens once they're on the same page, and it's a consensual first time sexual encounter.

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joined Oct 25, 2023

Surprisingly wholesome for this manga. Sure there were some "I hate you's" in there and Komaki telling Wakaba to strip, but that's mild as far as the toxicity goes in this manga.

Probably just forgot but it stuck out to me how Wakaba always refers to her as "Komaki" in her thoughts despite stubbornly refusing to call her by given name. That feeble resistance is adorably petulant.

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joined Sep 10, 2022

Surprisingly wholesome for this manga. Sure there were some "I hate you's" in there and Komaki telling Wakaba to strip, but that's mild as far as the toxicity goes in this manga.

Probably just forgot but it stuck out to me how Wakaba always refers to her as "Komaki" in her thoughts despite stubbornly refusing to call her by given name. That feeble resistance is adorably petulant.

Not enough resistance to prevent a Wakaba initiated kiss this time though lol. "I hate you" translates to "I love you but hate that I do." We'll get over that. If there was still some lingering doubt about how much Wakaba loves Komaki, I think this chapter would clear that up. She'll accept "losing," eventually; or she'll recognize she's already "lost." Of course they'll have to work through their issues in the process.

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Surprisingly wholesome for this manga. Sure there were some "I hate you's" in there and Komaki telling Wakaba to strip, but that's mild as far as the toxicity goes in this manga.

Probably just forgot but it stuck out to me how Wakaba always refers to her as "Komaki" in her thoughts despite stubbornly refusing to call her by given name. That feeble resistance is adorably petulant.

Not enough resistance to prevent a Wakaba initiated kiss this time though lol. "I hate you" translates to "I love you but hate that I do." We'll get over that. If there was still some lingering doubt about how much Wakaba loves Komaki, I think this chapter would clear that up. She'll accept "losing," eventually; or she'll recognize she's already "lost." Of course they'll have to work through their issues in the process.

if the story is trying to make it like that, it’s the most stupid way to write the i hate you( i actualy love you) type of relationship, not this stupid as hell way to make Komaki look like an psychopath and Wakaba being the most STUPID AND DUMB way of obeying what Komaki says!!!

I wanted to say Komaki acts like she is on some deep end spectrum of some kind, but I DOUBT the author was going for some kind of psychological romance and what not, so this chapter just makes me think this plot is just so fucking stupid!!!

but it did hook me so i guess the author manage to make it unique enough to hook people (-_-“) and unfortunatly i doubt the author will go the route of psychological romance and mental issue and such

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joined Oct 14, 2014

why is this 15 year old even still reading this

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joined Jul 29, 2017

Surprisingly wholesome for this manga. Sure there were some "I hate you's" in there and Komaki telling Wakaba to strip, but that's mild as far as the toxicity goes in this manga.

Probably just forgot but it stuck out to me how Wakaba always refers to her as "Komaki" in her thoughts despite stubbornly refusing to call her by given name. That feeble resistance is adorably petulant.

Not enough resistance to prevent a Wakaba initiated kiss this time though lol. "I hate you" translates to "I love you but hate that I do." We'll get over that. If there was still some lingering doubt about how much Wakaba loves Komaki, I think this chapter would clear that up. She'll accept "losing," eventually; or she'll recognize she's already "lost." Of course they'll have to work through their issues in the process.

if the story is trying to make it like that, it’s the most stupid way to write the i hate you( i actualy love you) type of relationship, not this stupid as hell way to make Komaki look like an psychopath and Wakaba being the most STUPID AND DUMB way of obeying what Komaki says!!!

I wanted to say Komaki acts like she is on some deep end spectrum of some kind, but I DOUBT the author was going for some kind of psychological romance and what not, so this chapter just makes me think this plot is just so fucking stupid!!!

but it did hook me so i guess the author manage to make it unique enough to hook people (-_-“) and unfortunatly i doubt the author will go the route of psychological romance and mental issue and such

So you’re saying “I like it (but I hate that I do)”?

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joined Sep 27, 2017

Well there's the bath, also this chapter really gives me the impression that Wakaba is even deeper in the hole than Komaki. Especially as Komaki seems genuinely surprised by the kiss on the bed.

I'm also getting the impression that Komaki is a coward, and that she's doing all of this because she's afraid of asking Wakaba out, but doesn't want anyone else to have Wakaba's 1st time experiences. It's almost dating with extra steps...

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joined Aug 28, 2019

I'm also getting the impression that Komaki is a coward, and that she's doing all of this because she's afraid of asking Wakaba out, but doesn't want anyone else to have Wakaba's 1st time experiences. It's almost dating with extra steps...

Yah, in her head, she thinks it's better to be hated forever by her rather than risk losing her by taking the step to just tell her she loves her.

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joined Oct 17, 2016

This is so hot

Lojsdbe
joined Sep 16, 2019

Well there's the bath, also this chapter really gives me the impression that Wakaba is even deeper in the hole than Komaki. Especially as Komaki seems genuinely surprised by the kiss on the bed.

I'm also getting the impression that Komaki is a coward, and that she's doing all of this because she's afraid of asking Wakaba out, but doesn't want anyone else to have Wakaba's 1st time experiences. It's almost dating with extra steps...

Yeah, on top of taking Wakaba’s first, I also think Komaki’s just looking to fulfill a fantasy of being with Wakaba, since she seems to be convinced that it can never happen otherwise. At the same time, though, I do think that she’s still holding out some small hope that Wakaba will eventually return her feelings, and I’d be very surprised if she ever goes so far as trying to use a win for actual sense (it’d essentially be the same as giving up on the two of them ever really getting together).

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joined Nov 7, 2022

Hate you Hate you too

Cheers It's mutual !

joined Sep 28, 2022

it almost feels like the author wrote a normal thing and replaced every instance of the word love with hate or something

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joined Oct 14, 2014

idk it captures the internal turmoil of someone you care about a lot going a bad way and you're not sure what you should be doing or how much of it you could have been responsible for but ultimately feeling too scared to show and request the vulnerability needed to work through that

joined May 10, 2021

Kinda weird, kinda toxic.
Kinda wholesome and kinda hot as well.
Great fucking stuff!
Thanks for the translation!

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joined Oct 20, 2017

I'm also getting the impression that Komaki is a coward, and that she's doing all of this because she's afraid of asking Wakaba out, but doesn't want anyone else to have Wakaba's 1st time experiences. It's almost dating with extra steps...

Yah, in her head, she thinks it's better to be hated forever by her rather than risk losing her by taking the step to just tell her she loves her.

I think Komaki has convinced herself that she already lost her, and that Wakaba only goes along with the game because of a misplaced stubbornness. And with every single "precious thing" she takes from Wakaba, the idea that Wakaba might still care about her becomes more and more unthinkable.

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Palucina1
joined May 26, 2020

Why do I hear Britney Spears singing?

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joined Jan 1, 2024

rivals my ass these bitches GAY

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joined Oct 2, 2021

We're just 2 lost souls black holes
Swimming in a fish bowl
Year after year

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joined Nov 22, 2019

She looks sorta like a homunculus in this panel.

I get making her shorter but sometimes the proportions are way off

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joined Jan 9, 2017

The nice One and the bitch one
Sharing a strong childhood connection
Poor mc

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joined Sep 21, 2019

"Umezono... I hate you... I hate you so much..."
"...I know. I hate you too, Wakaba."
proceed to passionately make out while naked together in the bathtub

HOW DOES THIS MANGA MANAGE TO HAVE THIS MAKE ANY SENSE

Officially top 10 material. Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.

So you’re saying “I like it (but I hate that I do)”?

I love this comment, and I hate that I do

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joined Sep 6, 2018

Goddddd this manga is driving me crazy!! Their feelings are so complicated!!

I'm also getting the impression that Komaki is a coward, and that she's doing all of this because she's afraid of asking Wakaba out, but doesn't want anyone else to have Wakaba's 1st time experiences

I think it’s something like that, but given it seems like her original trauma is “this girl who is the only person in the world with me, the only one who knows me and who I can trust, is moving away from me and focusing on other people and I’ll have nothing left,” I’d put it more like, “she’s trying to cling onto Wakaba as long as she can and carve a record of herself into her so that when Wakaba leaves her, at least she’ll still have her blood on her fingers, at least the scars she left will still touch her skin.”

It’s driving me crazy. There is no yuri more peak than this. The little cracks in Komaki’s cold facade revealing desperate, wild emotion just underneath. The way she looks invincible and alone, but I just know that if Wakaba told her something like “if only I had been a better friend to you when we were younger, maybe you wouldn’t have hurt Senpai like that” it would completely shatter her, like tear her guts out, in such a multi-layered and profound way… oogh im feeling faint.

And wakaba!! That desire to challenge and overturn Heaven to prove Komaki is human (so she’ll finally get off that high horse? so she’ll overcome that sense of alienation, and not feel so alone?) could carry a series on its own, just with her struggling and falling and rising again and keeping that girl in her sights on the ever-distant horizon… but they had to be gratuitous and ALSO include the conceit that she gets emotionally tortured in a sexy, dangerous and permanent way to further mingle her hate and love, her affection and disgust, to further complicate her motivation to beat Komaki (to tear her down. to reach her.)

She’s like. Defiantly, spitefully challenging komaki for her hand in marriage, but every time she loses and is subjected to erotic yet cutting Female Bullying that further scars her and brings them closer.

Oogh. It’s too muchhhh. Im gonna vomit up peat from the yuri swamp any second now.

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