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Yay! Bonus episode!
I could be wrong, but this is the first time the word "love" has been used in the manga.
Yay! Bonus episode!
I could be wrong, but this is the first time the word "love" has been used in the manga.
Aya's camera was in all four of the volume extras and she herself mentions wanting to take a lovers' shot with Mitsuki in the first one.
Good job, uncle!
Tags should just be gone. What people want is full on spoiler summaries for complete series anyway, and tags don't actually serve as in their function as cataloguing content anymore, so better ditch them before further devolvement. People need to be untrained from checklist reading. ^^
Some want to know if this is actually Yuri, which is a genre. It's very normal to want to know what genre you're reading. Yuri lets you know if this involves romance or not (specifically between women). It doesn't say anything about the other outcomes or about spoilers, anymore than knowing that something is in the comedy genre spoils a film or book. I don't see anyone asking for much more beyond that.
Point of clarity! The romance tag lets readers know if it will be romance or not. There is a ton of content on the site that is yuri without being romantic. Anyone concerned with progress, or the (very outdated by this point) focus on whether or not something is yuri based on whether or not there is subtext, just needs to check if there is a romance tag. That's the tag to care about. The yuri tag is not designed to define romance, and the genre of yuri expands way beyond romance, particularly with how the genre has grown explosively in the last decade. Like, for instance, this series.
last edited at Oct 11, 2023 11:55PM
Point of clarity! The romance tag lets readers know if it will be romance or not. There is a ton of content on the site that is yuri without being romantic. Anyone concerned with progress, or the (very outdated by this point) focus on whether or not something is yuri based on whether or not there is subtext, just needs to check if there is a romance tag. That's the tag to care about. The yuri tag is not designed to define romance, and the genre of yuri expands way beyond romance, particularly with how the genre has grown explosively in the last decade. Like, for instance, this series.
This is a bit confusing to me. This whole series so far feels like a slow burn to an eventual relationship (especially given the side illustrations which often look "post confession/hookup" and the adults in the story "knowing" about the leads' true feelings for each other) and that in itself is why I would call it yuri. To make an analogy, something like My Dress Up Darling clearly has a main couple that will get together by the end of the story, which is why it's often labeled a romcom/romance even though the two leads aren't dating yet after several volumes. It feels like yuri fans have a much more narrow definition of yuri and romance compared to NL manga fans.
It feels like yuri fans have a much more narrow definition of yuri and romance compared to NL manga fans.
Some do, and they tend to be extremely vocal about it. Even series where the leads are incredibly lovey-dovey for dozens of chapters but without explicit statements about them “dating” or on-panel kissing/physical intimacy don’t make the grade for those folks.
But many, maybe most, other readers seem fine with Dynasty’s looser “at least one MC has romantic feelings for another girl/woman” approach. So it’s quite a generalization to label “yuri fans” as a whole that way.
The occasional statements by manga creators tend to complicate the issue further, because they often seem to have a culturally-specific, or even industry/genre-specific, definition of “yuri” in mind when they declare their work to be “not yuri.”
(Although it certainly may have happened, I can’t recall any example of a mangaka saying that their work is yuri when major parts of the reading audience disagree.)
Point of clarity! The romance tag lets readers know if it will be romance or not. There is a ton of content on the site that is yuri without being romantic. Anyone concerned with progress, or the (very outdated by this point) focus on whether or not something is yuri based on whether or not there is subtext, just needs to check if there is a romance tag. That's the tag to care about. The yuri tag is not designed to define romance, and the genre of yuri expands way beyond romance, particularly with how the genre has grown explosively in the last decade. Like, for instance, this series.
This is a bit confusing to me. This whole series so far feels like a slow burn to an eventual relationship (especially given the side illustrations which often look "post confession/hookup" and the adults in the story "knowing" about the leads' true feelings for each other) and that in itself is why I would call it yuri. To make an analogy, something like My Dress Up Darling clearly has a main couple that will get together by the end of the story, which is why it's often labeled a romcom/romance even though the two leads aren't dating yet after several volumes. It feels like yuri fans have a much more narrow definition of yuri and romance compared to NL manga fans.
You should probably drop that "NL" label, it's shitty to call het manga "normal love" since that indirectly calls everything else abnormal. (I've also seen NL defined as "natural love" before and that's even worse lmao) The tag on this site is "het" and that's definitely the best, even if it might lead to arguments for edge cases like My Dress Up Darling where the girl's bi and the guy has better than even chances of being an egg.
To make an analogy, something like My Dress Up Darling clearly has a main couple that will get together by the end of the story, which is why it's often labeled a romcom/romance even though the two leads aren't dating yet after several volumes.
To be clear, I'd personally consider this romance but the Dress Up Darling example doesn't work as well. That series very clearly had Marin think of Gojo in obvious and directly romantic ways. She thought about the potential of dating him, and crushed over him, wanted to kiss him. They were in undeniably romantic scenes, the bed scene etc. So while it was a slow burn, the audience knew early on what her sexuality was and that she viewed him specifically as a romantic partner and not just a very close friend.
The issue some have with this is they feel there is still wiggle room. These folks are looking for more concrete pinning (a toned down version of Marin's, for example) that signals clear, and obvious romantic interest that can't be second guessed as a close female bond or explained as admiration for an oshi. So there's a bit of difference between how the two series present their slow burn. Personally I think it's been direct enough and is clearly moving at its own pace.
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It's not her boyfriend, it's her girlfriend.
The more I read the forum, the more I get frustrated with this comic. First, the author says it's not Yuri then the uploader says it's not romance. So then, why is it even here? I feel so heart broken now and lost all hope towards this series. I wanna cry like totally.
The more I read the forum, the more I get frustrated with this comic. First, the author says it's not Yuri then the uploader says it's not romance. So then, why is it even here? I feel so heart broken now and lost all hope towards this series. I wanna cry like totally.
Why is it here? Putting aside all the genre-tag business which may or not turn out the way you think it will, this story is here because it’s a fun story with cute characters, unusual and evocative art, and sweet interactions among the cast.
Not every story is designed to meet your individual emotional needs. It’s possible to just read a story for what’s actually on the page and not obsess about what other people say about it.
last edited at Oct 15, 2023 8:21AM
So much going on in this chapter, it's even more confusing than usual... So we learn that Mitsuki is not good at studying, or at least worse at it than even Aya. Aya is self-conscious as usual, and then the twins and even her mom confuse Mitsuki for a guy, as well. Haven't they already met her? If not, it's still strange, since Mitsuki does not even present herself as particularly masculine here, apart from wearing a shirt (which isn't all that gender-specific, anyway, I think?). Also, we have a undercurrent of Mitsuki getting lost in thought every time the graduation exam is brought up, and by Aya's reaction, I assume it has something to do with her decision of whether to move the States or not. Lots to untangle...
Why is it here? Putting aside all the genre-tag business which may or not turn out the way you think it will, this story is here because it’s a fun story with cute characters, unusual and evocative art, and sweet interactions among the cast.
Not every story is designed to meet your individual emotional needs. It’s possible to just read a story for what’s actually on the page and not obsess about what other people say about it.
What Blastaar said.
Welp you know what they say, don't judge a book by it's eye glasses lol
The entire family has the same type apparently :P
It feels like the author is getting a little lost in the weeds when it comes to the plot and pacing. Not that there's anything wrong with what we've gotten, but the first 20 chapters or so (and the premise from title) felt more like it was quickly heading for explicitly GL territory. I still think it will become at least romance, but maybe it'll take a while, or maybe it'll just be implied... Tbh I'm not sure the author has made up their mind either.
All I know is that their families are super cute! This series really has been a 10/10 on the wholesome scale so far in a way that I wasn't expecting.
Now she's at her house!
The more I read the forum, the more I get frustrated with this comic. First, the author says it's not Yuri then the uploader says it's not romance. So then, why is it even here? I feel so heart broken now and lost all hope towards this series. I wanna cry like totally.
I get it, as I've said before. But I really wouldn't worry too much about that. It's given enough clear hints at where it's going. It's just not focused on doing the typical romantic beats and is focused more on other things. I also wouldn't overreact to the resistance over the term "yuri." That was likely more about the all important step of setting up proper expectations--expectations which I've felt for a while has gotten lost a bit based on how people were discussing things earlier and maybe needs some resetting. So some of these reactions are expected. Also the uploader didn't really say there wouldn't be romance? That was just about their opinion of what the term "yuri" implied.
last edited at Oct 15, 2023 9:39AM
Why is it here? Putting aside all the genre-tag business which may or not turn out the way you think it will, this story is here because it’s a fun story with cute characters, unusual and evocative art, and sweet interactions among the cast.
Not every story is designed to meet your individual emotional needs. It’s possible to just read a story for what’s actually on the page and not obsess about what other people say about it.
What? I can't comment what I want to comment? Ignore me because I'm a nobody who just want to whine about my feelings. If you're just so rational about things then ignore petty people with petty comments like me. As simple as that. No need to emphasize that all reading material here has to satisfy my emotional needs. I'm just a karen stating my feelings. That's it.
Why is it here? Putting aside all the genre-tag business which may or not turn out the way you think it will, this story is here because it’s a fun story with cute characters, unusual and evocative art, and sweet interactions among the cast.
Not every story is designed to meet your individual emotional needs. It’s possible to just read a story for what’s actually on the page and not obsess about what other people say about it.
What? I can't comment what I want to comment? Ignore me because I'm a nobody who just want to whine about my feelings. If you're just so rational about things then ignore petty people with petty comments like me. As simple as that. No need to emphasize that all reading material here has to satisfy my emotional needs. I'm just a karen stating my feelings. That's it.
You asked a question and I answered it. That "I can't comment?" stuff really is just pure whining. If you're going to have an emotional breakdown over what other people say about a story, maybe it's best to just read the story.
I don't know it's yuri or not but I love this it's amazing
"Tu quoque, mater?"
last edited at Oct 15, 2023 11:15AM
Like the Drowning Pool poster on Aya's wall - especially as Drowning Pool are on tour at the moment (wrong side of the pond for me though).
So much going on in this chapter, it's even more confusing than usual... So we learn that Mitsuki is not good at studying, or at least worse at it than even Aya. Aya is self-conscious as usual, and then the twins and even her mom confuse Mitsuki for a guy, as well. Haven't they already met her? If not, it's still strange, since Mitsuki does not even present herself as particularly masculine here, apart from wearing a shirt (which isn't all that gender-specific, anyway, I think?). Also, we have a undercurrent of Mitsuki getting lost in thought every time the graduation exam is brought up, and by Aya's reaction, I assume it has something to do with her decision of whether to move the States or not. Lots to untangle...
The twins have met her, but they're little kids who can barely talk, and they don't really understand concepts like "boyfriend", and they've already associated that term with Mitsuki, so that's what they call her. They're literally just greeting her out of familiarity and it's the only way they know to refer to her. Note how Mitsuki pals around with them once they come up with her, they're all familiar, she's just taking it in stride.
Mom doesn't know Mitsuki, so she mistakes her for a boy, partly because of Mitsuki's androgynous style, but also because her kids just ran into the room yelling BOYFRIEND BOYFRIEND! but then the little ones recount that Aya said she was "an Onee-chan".
Why is it here? Putting aside all the genre-tag business which may or not turn out the way you think it will, this story is here because it’s a fun story with cute characters, unusual and evocative art, and sweet interactions among the cast.
Not every story is designed to meet your individual emotional needs. It’s possible to just read a story for what’s actually on the page and not obsess about what other people say about it.
What Blastaar said.
Yeah, I mean, there's plenty of manga on here that are categorized as het, bi, yuri crush, subtext, etc etc. The suggestion that "why is it even here" like, actively ignores that Dynasty is not, nor has it ever been as long as I've been here, just for romantic yuri genre stories.
What? I can't comment what I want to comment? Ignore me because I'm a nobody who just want to whine about my feelings. If you're just so rational about things then ignore petty people with petty comments like me. As simple as that. No need to emphasize that all reading material here has to satisfy my emotional needs. I'm just a karen stating my feelings. That's it.
You can say whatever you want to say, and people are also free to have opinions about it.