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joined Dec 11, 2017

Yeah, I think it's a little early to decide if this is a problem with the girls or if it's just Mitsuki getting in her own way again. Nothing they're saying is necessarily wrong, but it depends on if this is a pattern where Mitsuki always comes second to the rest of the band or if it's just down to this particular situation.

It's not wrong to point out that you need people to hear your music if you want to be a successful musician. But it's also true that compromising the quality of your music to hit better in an algorithm doesn't necessarily lead to the long term goals you might want for your work.

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joined Dec 11, 2017

Oh, come on... I find the romanticizing of the idea that love can survive any kind of abuse and disrespect absolutely disgusting.

Right! It is all very icky

I mean, they're children. Kids lash out, do things they don't mean, say things they don't feel. They don't understand how to process their feelings and they mishandle things all the time. There's a reason we don't punish children for doing things that are crimes in the same way we punish adults. They don't know how any of it works. And that's so much harder when you have a kind of feeling about your friend that society tells you you aren't supposed to have.

Like, it's up to every individual how much they're willing to forgive. And I definitely wouldn't point to this as a model to follow, for anybody. But we don't just read stories because they're good models for how to behave. We read stories because they're interesting, and two kids learning how to have feelings for each other in the worst way possible, while probably not a good lesson for anybody, is certainly interesting to watch.

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joined Dec 11, 2017

Those handcuffs are too big lol

"You won't be able to leave! You'll have to stay here and let me take care of you!"

(looks at handcuffs that are clearly larger than the widest part of her hands, that she could easily slip out of) "...Oh no, how terrible. I am clearly trapped forever."

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joined Dec 11, 2017

I mean, let's be real honest. Given the way she turns on a dime to be completely smitten over whatever girl is immediately in front of her, Soraike is, like...trash? Like, she's amusing and likable, but her affections clearly flip on a dime and I personally don't feel like it's very likely that if she managed to snag an official girlfriend, she wouldn't just immediately cheat on them with the next person that was even a little aggressive. And even if I'm wrong about that, she's DEFINITELY not currently capable of picking somebody from the lineup right now. Honestly I don't see her slowing down and cooling off until somebody gets hurt. Probably Riri.

She is the protagonist of a story, so probably she has some growth in front of her, but for the moment, she's just an unrestrained ball of hormones ready to unleash on anybody that seems remotely receptive.

Heavensrun
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Well that's a horrifying experience for her, but at least this probably means Kon isn't gone for good, because I seriously doubt this ends with the protagonist and her girlfriend and aunt all just being digested.

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joined Dec 11, 2017

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/the_guy_she_was_interested_in_wasnt_a_guy_at_all_ch143#4

this body language does not say "broken up" to me.

I know, right?

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joined Dec 11, 2017

(nosepinch) Guys. Jesus. Chill.

I am pretty certain "Did she bring a girl home??" is just because the lights were off and she heard the panic in Mitsuki's voice and couldn't in that moment think of an innocent reason for it. It's not anything as deep as Aya being insecure or having any real reason to doubt Mitsuki. It's not a "bait and switch" and it's not intended to make you think they're broken up. It is a momentary misunderstanding that explicitly shows that they're still together, because Aya wouldn't have rushed in angry if they weren't still a couple. Sometimes a situation just seems fishy and your brain jumps to the worst possible explanation and oh look it's almost like I am simultaneously talking about both Aya and this comment section.

I would argue that if your mind can't come up with an innocent reason for something then that probably stems from an insecurity. If not, how would you define insecurity?

I would argue that the first scenario that pops into someone's head can be the result of a billion little priming things that have nothing to do with the person's general self esteem or comfort level and she was suspicious for like two seconds before the misunderstanding was dispelled. She could have read a manga about a cheating spouse, or a friend got cheated on, or she was listening to a song about cheating, or who knows what else. What's at the core of it in reality is that the author thought it would be funny if Aya misunderstood and jumped to conclusions and then immediately felt stupid for worrying about it.

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joined Dec 11, 2017

(nosepinch) Guys. Jesus. Chill.

I am pretty certain "Did she bring a girl home??" is just because the lights were off and she heard the panic in Mitsuki's voice and couldn't in that moment think of an innocent reason for it. It's not anything as deep as Aya being insecure or having any real reason to doubt Mitsuki. It's not a "bait and switch" and it's not intended to make you think they're broken up. It is a momentary misunderstanding that explicitly shows that they're still together, because Aya wouldn't have rushed in angry if they weren't still a couple. Sometimes a situation just seems fishy and your brain jumps to the worst possible explanation and oh look it's almost like I am simultaneously talking about both Aya and this comment section.

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joined Dec 11, 2017

Literally the only thing they could possibly do that would disappoint me in terms of art direction would be to cut the music references out of the series. It desperately needs to have a licensed soundtrack.

Surely this should not be a problem, seeing how they've already released a soundtrack for the manga.

You wouldn't think, but licensing for use in an actual show might be a different matter than licensing what is effectively a compilation album.

(Edit: I mean I'm not expecting it to be a problem, it's just not entirely out of the realm of possibility)

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joined Dec 11, 2017
  1. Least realistic thing about this - Aya's mom not realizing the second she sat next to him that the pierced, tattooed rocker guy in the snazzy suit who looks just like Mitsuki is in fact Mitsuki's relative. XD

Honestly if it wasn't for the bawling, she and everybody else probably would have been too terrified of him to even notice who he looks like. He definitely has Yakuza vibes going in that suit.

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joined Dec 11, 2017

While I don't doubt they'll do some creative color work (green yuri is part of the identity of the comic, I am sure the anime will make liberal use of green shades) I doubt it'll just be black and white and green.

It wouldn't surprise me if they just "normalized" the color scheme, perhaps going with either City-like clear lines or a watercolor scheme. Maybe they can license a lot of Green Day songs to compensate.

Literally the only thing they could possibly do that would disappoint me in terms of art direction would be to cut the music references out of the series. It desperately needs to have a licensed soundtrack.

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joined Dec 11, 2017

But it will be interesting to see what might be done with the most distinctive feature of "The Green Yuri"--I have never thought the story would benefit from either full-color or standard B&W. And the trademark treatment of oblique framing and the dense layering of dialogue and figurative elements in the panels have kept me coming back and re-reading this one over and over (it's not uncommon for me to re-read favorite yuri manga, but not often just to look closely at the details of the panels). I like that the pictures don't move in this one, because that means I can spend as much time with them as I want.

Maybe they'll just do it like the Sin City movie, and do it in black and white and green.

While I don't doubt they'll do some creative color work (green yuri is part of the identity of the comic, I am sure the anime will make liberal use of green shades) I doubt it'll just be black and white and green. That's a tough sell and it isn't really necessary. It's not like western comics where being black and white is unusual, therefore you have to adapt Sin City in black & white to match. ALL manga is black and white, so it's standard to add color to anime adaptations.

I'm more curious how they're going to structure the story. is it still going to be short vignettes? Are they going to add connective tissue? I mean, I'm gonna be honest, I love this series, but the structure of the chapters is definitely born from the format, and even translating that into book form made it read a little weird. I would not be surprised if readers who first discover it as a book don't read it and wonder if there are pages missing.

You could consider adapting it as a collection of shorts, if you wanted to keep the structure the same, but if they're making it into episodes, I feel like it'd be pretty stilted without more connective tissue.

Heavensrun
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I really enjoyed the experience of reading the series over the years but the ending was sadly unsatisfying.

Pfft....It's funny to me that I spent like 10 minutes crafting a comment talking about how the ending feels, and in the middle of it, here comes a post from somebody who uses the exact phrasing I used to describe a hypothetical dissatisfied reader.

Heavensrun
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Honestly, if we're being realistic, almost none of these girls end up together, that's just not how high school relationships work out. Most series get around this by focusing on a single couple/pairing, because while MOST people don't pair up for life out of high school, SOME people do, and the story can just be about one of those without stretching plausibility.

By making a series set in a girls school with so many pairings, relationships, and prospective relationships, you're left with the dilemma of either making an ending where many of the couples end up with long term prospects but it feels contrived and false, an ambiguous ending where you do a graduation arc and maybe a couple of them get together but mostly it's just leaving everything up in the air, or a time-skip/class reunion ending where you find out most of them broke up or never got together, and a lot of them married guys, and then it feels pretty shitty.

So while this feels on the face like a wildly unsatisfying last chapter, I could also sympathize with Kishi-sensei's decision to just go "eh fuck it the end." And at first that's what this looks like, but then I think about Honoka and Elisha's story, and I think there's something a little deeper going on here.

I think the reason he gave Honoka and Eli an ending specifically was because out of everybody, they had THE MOST to overcome if they were going to end up together, with Eli being an exchange student and leaving the country after a semester. Many of these couples have a whole year or two together before they graduate, many of them might attend the same college, and even if they don't, they're still all in the same country, they could end up at the same company, or find themselves in the same town, etc etc. But Eli and Honoka are going to have a literal ocean between them, and until the very end there it's kinda ambiguous if they're actually that committed or if they're just playing around. The fakeout in the ending where you start off thinking they fell out of touch works because honestly it would feel very real if they did. So the message here is:

"Look, we all know not all these girls are gonna get together, and I'm not going to dash your dreams by telling you which of your faves didn't work out. So instead of giving everybody an ending and deciding it for you, look, look here: The couple with the most obstacles is happily living together in quasi-marital bliss happily writing manga together, probably about Thomas Jefferson taking it in the butt from Tokugawa Ieharu. If they made it work, who's to say your favorite couple didn't?"

And y'know, I think that's probably about the best compromise between realism and narrative that you could probably do for a series like this.

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joined Dec 11, 2017

Wow. They finally do something couple-ish.

I feel like we've gotten a good amount of that before now lol

Yeah several times lol.

Have they even been reading the comic? Like, 2 weeks ago Joe literally gave his blessing to their union because they were being so obvious about dating now.

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joined Dec 11, 2017

I know people are worried that the series is going to end. Honestly, me too. But it feels like the series is at its peak in popularity (maybe hasn't even hit it's REAL peak yet??) and an anime just got announced. This is like the BEST time to gain new fans and sell more manga. Surely the author won't let this moment go to waste...? Right?

I'm praying, hoping, begging, and screaming for more lol

If the story's done, I'd rather they end it where they want to than keep it going for years and years while contriving stupid excuses to do yet another storyline.

(glances sideways at Tite Kubo)

(Edit: Note, I'm not advocating for it to end, either, I just think Arai-sensei should do what she thinks is right rather than chasing the cash cow.)

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joined Dec 11, 2017

By all means, throw someone a CD case from the second floor of a building, it's going to be juuuust fine.

I mean...it literally was just fine. Depending on how you release it, it's not hard to drop a light, flat object like a CD case to someone one floor down. It's a little careless when it's something as easy to damage as a CD, but I dunno, maybe she shrink-wrapped the thing for extra style points, in which case even if it hit the ground it probably wouldn't damage the disk.

one of the thing about close-up panels like this is we can't easily see the specifics of the action that took place. Did she lob the thing like a frisbee? Or did Mitsuki walk over so she could drop it straight down?

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joined Dec 11, 2017

i dont like the way that leaf is floating in front of her eye...their faces... feels like something bad is going to happen :,[

It's just spring, Sakura blossoms fall in spring, often around graduation time. It's a common trope in anime because it's a thing that often happens in real life. Chill.

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. . . Huh. Y'know I never put that together before. Topaz. They really knew exactly what they were doing here, huh.

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joined Dec 11, 2017

I know this is a work of fiction because it says there's a song on MTV

It's MTV Japan, they are still running

MTV is "still running" here. But the joke is that Music TeleVision is notorious for never playing any music. in the 80s, you could turn to MTV and it would be running banks of music videos with occasional music industry news and commentary programming. You had a better-than not chance that if you jumped to MTV, you could just, y'know, listen to music.

Over the years, they started including more and more programming that was only tangentially music related, and then eventually not at all music related, until it just became a punchline.

That all said, as I understand it MTV Japan is closer to the original mission statement than MTV is here. They actually still run music programming instead of shitty reality shows.

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joined Dec 11, 2017

finally got around to read the last few chapters and OMG it´s as bad as i thought, god damn takeshima eku. Like don´t get me wrong im not one to shy away from some wincest but god damn why even bother with an incest plot if you´re gonna shy away and dance around it the whole arc. Worst of all she did my girl aya dirty, like what´s with that cuck shit about dating someone clearly in love with someone else, her sister nonetheless

I dunno, almost every incest story either a) magically works out, or b) ends in tragedy, it'd be kind of nice to see "person struggles with difficult feelings and finds a way to move on" for once.

And dating someone that is in love with someone else isn't "cuck shit," Miki's proactively trying to move on from a relationship she can't have, (for a lot of reasons,) and Aya is swooping in with the intent to save her from that. this happens all the time in yuri and in real life. It's often what happens to secondary characters when they can't get the character of their affection. Hell, it basically happened with Aki. She was still in love with Yori, but she knows that isn't going to happen so she's trying to move on with somebody else and honestly it seems like it's going pretty well.

People who read romance stories get way too bogged down in "they met by fate on a windswept day when they bumped into each other on the street and fell in love at first sight" but a lot of real relationships are "Well, I had a crush on some guy whose name I can't remember, who didn't even know who I was, and she came after me anyway and I thought she seemed fun and interesting. We've been married for 43 years."

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joined Dec 11, 2017

I'm probably going to get hated for this, but...

As much as I appreciate Mitsuki's character growth to becoming assertive and confident (and as much as Aya clearly appreciated that little move as well), Mitsuki is still showing facets of jealousy, control, and lack of trust. In real life, these things are huge red flags.

If someone had come up to Mitsuki and asked her about Western music, she would have gone into full "geek mode" and chatted them up non-stop; if said person had done that under the pretense of flirting with her, Mitsuki would not have noticed; she would have been ass-deep in gushing about Eric Clapton and George Harrison 0.38 seconds upon hearing the song playing on his phone. So, for her assume Aya couldn't deal with this shows a rather meaningful lack of trust, and maybe even a bit of projection.

And, considering the meaning of the song... Patti Boyd made her choice, and George Harrison respected it. Mitsuki would know that.

So yeah... I love this comic, I've loved it since the moment I first laid eyes on it, but I can't say I like this particular entry, and I hope it isn't the start of a dark path for Mitsuki.

I mean, I'm not gonna hate you for it, but I do disagree.

Most of Mitsuki's big rizz moments happen because she is unaware of what she's doing. With that being the pattern, it's possible, in fact I'd say probable, that in that moment she went, "Oh, wait, we never actually said we were dating, did we? I better make sure we're on the same page." "Hey, are we?" (Cue Aya's bewildered response) "Okay, cool, awesome, I thought so, that's so great." (blissfully unaware that she just stunted on Ono and announced them to the rest of the class.)

I mean, tell me that's not 100% her modus operandi throughout this entire series.

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joined Dec 11, 2017

That's more a tackle than a hug.

That's a scoop. She has been scooped.

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joined Dec 11, 2017

REALLY? THAT'S HOW FAR THEY GO?
HIKE HER PANTS UP, KISS HER THIGH, SHOVE YOUR FINGERS IN HER MOUTH
SOMETHING

They are literally children

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joined Dec 11, 2017

I was really into this manga for a while, but I didn't really like this chapter. I don't know exactly what it is but it's like the longer this manga goes on the more it fails to pull me in. Maybe it's too much fluff now? Too slice of life? Too many characters? Or maybe it's just the tone is just different enough to be removed from what I initially liked. Though I can say I really don't like it implying Shou getting bullied is her own fault for not fitting in well enough or something.

It's not that getting bullied is her own fault, but they're children. They don't necessarily know the best way to respond to things that make them feel bad. Everybody has their own stuff going on. As you get older, you learn how to better interact with your peers, to understand that you might have done things that made them sad or uncomfortable. By keeping her distance and immersing herself in her own interests, she was sending signals to the other girls that she didn't like them.

The kind response to that kind of behavior (Edit: What we should teach kids, and what manga like this does teach kids by having them sympathize with Shou in the first place) is to assume that the person has their own reasons for being that way, and to give them distance while letting them know that if they ever want to approach you, they're welcome. The healthy and moral response is to just let it be and focus on your own business. But children don't always know the healthy response and aren't always kind enough for the kind response, so some respond to what they see as disdain with a like response. It doesn't make anything better, though, it just causes more strife and upset.

An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind, and all that.

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