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QuietestRiot
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joined Dec 28, 2018

Could very easily be that the villainess system spat out that request that somebody else here mentioned: Reject Elsa's gift and her feelings, or use that gift to hurt her with.

Hotyangicon3
joined Jun 6, 2013

Boo flash forward.

TheParagonWay
Image_push
joined Feb 10, 2022

MOAR

Miku
joined Feb 27, 2016

This girl just dodged her description. It's you, not a male with similar characteristics.

Just accept her feelings already and don't play matchmaker with her and your cousin

Well you're gonna love how this one ends though. Those flashbacks and bandages should be explained by the end of this arc hopefully

last edited at May 9, 2022 7:51AM

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joined Jun 19, 2014

For a second I thoght she was faking the wound under the bandage but looks like they just forgor to add the bandage in the second to last panel on the last page of ch. 29.

joined Jan 14, 2020

"Also they're really dense and oblivious."

X2(edited)2
joined Jan 2, 2022

So we're still not getting shown what happened on the beach.

Tenshi
joined Mar 23, 2016

For fucks sake, I really hate this "dense protagonist" crap.
She goes out of her way to be close to you and spend time with you, so that must mean she TOTALLY needs a boyfriend...
Maybe I missed something, but this is really beginning to piss me off.

X2(edited)2
joined Jan 2, 2022

For fucks sake, I really hate this "dense protagonist" crap.
She goes out of her way to be close to you and spend time with you, so that must mean she TOTALLY needs a boyfriend...
Maybe I missed something, but this is really beginning to piss me off.

Comp het is real.

Book%20and%20cloakhbq1
joined Aug 1, 2011

Elsa (on seeing Evie's list): ... I'd also like to add "Denser than a neutron star" and "Tits".
Evie: Hmm, so a dense guy with tits. ... I'm not sure if I know anyone like that.
Elsa: ...

With that said, it's a bit concerning that Elsa said she wasn't concerned about Evie cutting her when the wound was bad enough to need a change of bandages, which are still visibly bloody a day later. It's one thing to be willing to forgive that sort of thing, provide they have a very good explanation, and quite another to be completely unconcerned.

I kind-of wish Elsa would confront her over her, apparently, erratic behavior, but a good part of that is also wanting her to find out about the villainess system and, maybe, trying to help Evie work around it. It would also make her position a lot more understandable: I love you and I'm not going to start hating or fearing you because that awful system sometimes makes you hurt me.

Ran-lossy
joined Mar 22, 2015

For fucks sake, I really hate this "dense protagonist" crap.
She goes out of her way to be close to you and spend time with you, so that must mean she TOTALLY needs a boyfriend...
Maybe I missed something, but this is really beginning to piss me off.

There is no route in the original to shack up with the villainess, and Yvonne knows that. A lot of the story is her being constrained by the game to hurt Elsa— why would she think that Elsa was freer than she was?

Obviously as the readers we know but Yvonne’s denseness at least has plot behind it even if many stories with the same density level don’t.

Ayuwaka
joined May 27, 2018

Oh that's it. The story really went full retard. Kitanai Kimi ga Ichiban Kawaii was too much for me, please stop it dood. -_-

Untitled
joined Dec 16, 2014

I honestly just want consistency with the villainess system. It's just so conveniently put in place just for the sake of plot. It's such a lazy writing.

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joined Apr 14, 2022

Evie under the blankets is adorable.

I concur.

Enanano
joined Oct 16, 2020

Guys I think she’s talking about the blondie

Wiwaxia-sketch
joined Nov 9, 2021

For fucks sake, I really hate this "dense protagonist" crap.
She goes out of her way to be close to you and spend time with you, so that must mean she TOTALLY needs a boyfriend...
Maybe I missed something, but this is really beginning to piss me off.

There is no route in the original to shack up with the villainess, and Yvonne knows that. A lot of the story is her being constrained by the game to hurt Elsa— why would she think that Elsa was freer than she was?

Obviously as the readers we know but Yvonne’s denseness at least has plot behind it even if many stories with the same density level don’t.

Yeah I don't think it's a matter of Yvonne being dense at all at this point. She clearly knows Elsa is into her, and she seems to have some awareness on some level that she's got feelings for Elsa too, but is not letting herself acknowledge or think about that. She thinks (not completely without reason) that the only thing she can do is hurt Elsa, so she's trying to set Elsa up with someone else so at least Elsa will be happy, and she's avoiding thinking about herself as a possible romantic partner for Elsa so as to not make that harder than it already is. Denial, not obliviousness.

I mean the past few chapters have basically shown us Yvonne starting to forget about the "must find Elsa a love interest" thing (she even comments on how she's gone from trying to trigger romance flags for Elsa to avoiding them) and letting herself enjoy romantic moments with Elsa. She only goes back to trying to pair Elsa off in this chapter because the villainess system made her do something legitimately awful and she's now convinced she needs to get Elsa away from herself for Elsa's own good. I think it's pretty clear that Yvonne wouldn't be thinking about getting Elsa a love interest if that hadn't happened. She's gone back on the growth she had in her relationship with Elsa and regressed to old patterns because something happened that convinced her that that growth couldn't last.

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joined Apr 14, 2022

She's gone back on the growth she had in her relationship with Elsa and regressed to old patterns because something happened that convinced her that that growth couldn't last.

Which is, to be fair to the people complaining, extremely frustrating in its own way. Yuri leads have enough struggling to communicate without a literal hand of god pushing them apart whenever they make progress.

Personally, I liked this poster's take quite a lot more than what we're getting:

Being a relationship with someone who "just has to hurt you sometimes"... YESSSS. I'M A SICKO I'M HERE FOR IT

I might be twisted, but I love the fantasy of being cut by my girlfriend, only to be held lovingly afterwards. Reading about a relationship where they overcome the friction generated by Yvonne hurting Elsa would be much better than about the god system stopping them from ever Doing Yuri, in my humble and depraved opinion.

All of that being said, I do still enjoy this well enough, even though I don't really like how the system is being used.

last edited at May 9, 2022 8:10AM

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

I do not think that any relationship that involves regularly harming each other is a healthy one, but I am also of a firm belief that whatever consenting adults do in their private time and space is their own private business. I'd prefer it if the villainess system finally got on with the program and patched itself over into a love interest system, but I still trust the author to stick to their promise of wholesomeness all the way through.

last edited at May 9, 2022 5:18AM

Book%20and%20cloakhbq1
joined Aug 1, 2011

I honestly just want consistency with the villainess system. It's just so conveniently put in place just for the sake of plot. It's such a lazy writing.

To be fair, that is literally its stated purpose for existing: To enforce and enable the plot. The only problem is it didn't get the new script.

I do not think that any relationship that involves regularly harming each other is a healthy one, but I am also of a firm belief that whatever consenting adults do in their private time and space is their own private business. I'd prefer it if the villainess system finally got on with the program and patched itself over into a love interest system, but I still trust the author to stick to their promise of wholesomeness all the way through.

Ah, but Evie doesn't consent to any of this.

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

I do not think that any relationship that involves regularly harming each other is a healthy one, but I am also of a firm belief that whatever consenting adults do in their private time and space is their own private business. I'd prefer it if the villainess system finally got on with the program and patched itself over into a love interest system, but I still trust the author to stick to their promise of wholesomeness all the way through.

Ah, but Evie doesn't consent to any of this.

I am not sure about the "adults" part in her or Elsa's case, either. :-) In any case, the villainess system is the real villain here, not Evie's denseness, regardless of whether the latter is a natural attribute or a subconscious defense mechanism.

last edited at May 9, 2022 5:41AM

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joined Mar 25, 2021


Yeah their name has six letters that start with Yvo and ends with nne.

Man from Yvonne going "ah I do remember" and her
leaving a letter, she's probably going to contact a love interest that matches that criteria, the only fatal flaw is that their name is probably not Yvonne Smollet...

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joined Jul 21, 2015

I honestly just want consistency with the villainess system. It's just so conveniently put in place just for the sake of plot. It's such a lazy writing.

I mean, it's certainly a blatant plot contrivance but I can easily see it as a stereotypical vengeful/jealous god - plans beyond your understanding, vindictive punishment for disobedience, unreasonable demands like sacrificing your own children. In this case it has litrpg framing but to me that makes it more unsettling because you can imagine it as something a human designer/writer would inflict on others

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joined Mar 25, 2021

I honestly just want consistency with the villainess system. It's just so conveniently put in place just for the sake of plot. It's such a lazy writing.

I mean, it's certainly a blatant plot contrivance but I can easily see it as a stereotypical vengeful/jealous god - plans beyond your understanding, vindictive punishment for disobedience, unreasonable demands like sacrificing your own children. In this case it has litrpg framing but to me that makes it more unsettling because you can imagine it as something a human designer/writer would inflict on others

An actual God commanding the system would be terrifying as hell, like have you seen commands of God in most stories? Like "kill your child" "build an ark and not let any other humans in" "Make a chest of pure gold", and many more

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

So we're still not getting shown what happened on the beach.

Probably once they finally manage to talk about it.

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joined Mar 25, 2021

I kind-of wish Elsa would confront her over her, apparently, erratic behavior, but a good part of that is also wanting her to find out about the villainess system and, maybe, trying to help Evie work around it. It would also make her position a lot more understandable: I love you and I'm not going to start hating or fearing you because that awful system sometimes makes you hurt me.

Yeah Elsa has to be really blunt, I can see this arc escalating to something like Evie wanting to run and distance herself even more from Elsa in fear of being forced to hurt her in a harsher way, and Elsa saying those things.

But man Evie has every right to be afraid of the system, like she's definitely going to fear going near any sharp object or weapon when she's out with Elsa.

While the system would probably offer options like a small cut or something, Evie probably doesn't want to hurt her regardless if she's into it or not. And she has every right to think that one day she won't be given a harmless option or that she'd be forced to do a severely injuring option. Well by then she would probably refuse that option and take the punishment, which could lead to a tragic end of sacrifice but I'm willing to bet that won't happen.

last edited at May 9, 2022 6:17AM

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