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(nosepinch) Guys. Jesus. Chill.

I am pretty certain "Did she bring a girl home??" is just because the lights were off and she heard the panic in Mitsuki's voice and couldn't in that moment think of an innocent reason for it. It's not anything as deep as Aya being insecure or having any real reason to doubt Mitsuki. It's not a "bait and switch" and it's not intended to make you think they're broken up. It is a momentary misunderstanding that explicitly shows that they're still together, because Aya wouldn't have rushed in angry if they weren't still a couple. Sometimes a situation just seems fishy and your brain jumps to the worst possible explanation and oh look it's almost like I am simultaneously talking about both Aya and this comment section.

I would argue that if your mind can't come up with an innocent reason for something then that probably stems from an insecurity. If not, how would you define insecurity?

Coming home early to your house in darkness with only a light from your bedroom and your partner yelling out shocked that your home early while shuffling and panicked? No, its not insecure for the random thought to come up and even less so if this happens as part of a fictional comedic chapter in a story.

I really don't think the author wants your takeaway to be that she has an insecurity that needs solving. I think the takeaway is "who is her roommate", "oh it's her GF," "hey they live together" and "isn't it funny that she burst in" and "OMG look at their new designs" and then "awe she was hiding a gift, how cute that they still love each other and music."

First of all, there are a ton of other explanations for that scenario, like preparing a surprise and not wanting it to be spoiled, or making a mess and wanting to clean it up before your partner comes home, etc. Immediately thinking of cheating points to either a society in which cheating is so common that that's the first that comes to mind (which technically does apply to Japan) or an insecurity. I certainly was not expecting Aya to think that, my mind didn't immediately go to cheating.

Second, I don't think either of us can say what the author was thinking, but also, I don't really care. I believe in "Death of the Author" and my reading of Aya and Mitsuki is such that an insecurity like that is not unreasonable.

Third of all, I find it weird that you're defending this SrNevick as I'm generally a fan of your comments and takes. I mostly responded here against the notion that "it's not that deep". I hate that take as far as fiction goes. It may not be that deep, but it is as deep as the reader allows it to be. I don't like the notion that because something is comedic or fluffy that it's worth less time spent analyzing than an intense toxic drama. And if this reads as just a fluffy light chapter to you, then that's great, I wouldn't argue against that, but that's not my reading. Both can exist because they depend on the reader not the chapter.

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(nosepinch) Guys. Jesus. Chill.

I am pretty certain "Did she bring a girl home??" is just because the lights were off and she heard the panic in Mitsuki's voice and couldn't in that moment think of an innocent reason for it. It's not anything as deep as Aya being insecure or having any real reason to doubt Mitsuki. It's not a "bait and switch" and it's not intended to make you think they're broken up. It is a momentary misunderstanding that explicitly shows that they're still together, because Aya wouldn't have rushed in angry if they weren't still a couple. Sometimes a situation just seems fishy and your brain jumps to the worst possible explanation and oh look it's almost like I am simultaneously talking about both Aya and this comment section.

I would argue that if your mind can't come up with an innocent reason for something then that probably stems from an insecurity. If not, how would you define insecurity?

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I agree with you Bielna, I love the series but the chapter didn't entirely land for me. Aside from what I already said the "Don't tell me she brought a girl home...!?" line really threw me off. The time jump is very sudden and it was lot to take in within a short chapter, I think future chapters will help balance things out though.

I don't really think this is matter of us "being whiny, bitching, not understanding narrative clues", as some people are rudely saying. We simply have a different perspective and view on the chapter than some people, which is normal and not everyone is going to think exactly the same thing. As you've said Bielna this is a forum to discuss the series and people will have different thoughts to share. As it's normal for people to have different opinions on the chapter. Ultimately though I think we all love the series, just because the chapter threw some of us off a little doesn't change that lol

I think the timeskip makes perfect sense, but I agree that the "did she bring a girl home" line is a bit weird to me. That said, Aya having some unresolved insecurities does not seem out of character for me, especially since Mitsuki tends to do most of her thinking internally before making a decision, as evidenced by the surprise purchases, and that can be difficult for Aya who needs more communication. It's a good reflection of Joe and Kanna in that Joe also has trouble communicating, and that led to their breakup, which doesn't mean that Aya and Mitsuki will breakup, but that there is an area where they need to put in more work to meet each other halfway.

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I guess it'll depend on how long it takes her to figure out her feelings, but when she does, is there anything left to tell? Are we in the end arc for this manga?

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We're just calling anyone a villainess now.

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"It's The End Of The World As We Know It (And I Feel Fine)" is a hilarious song to play during a graduation. Joe is adorable.

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Kawine discussion 20 Sep 20:28
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You know, I love the [Lots of Kissing] tag, and Mochi's art is perfect to go with it, but I could have done without the slober.

Mochi definitely enjoys making things wet and messy, it's understandably not for everyone, though I personally don't mind that aspect of their art myself lol

I've liked wet and messy in other art styles, and even other Mochi stories, but here their spit looks like weird comical paint splatters on their faces. And they're the same ones in every scene which is distracting and bad.

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The first chapter felt so cute, but this second chapter somehow made me really uncomfortable. Maybe it's the teacher in me, but there are lines being blurred here that feel weird, or at least have the potential to. For all I know, next chapter I'll feel like everything is fluffy again.

It doesn't seem like Hotaru will get with Nekome, even if Nekome gets a crush on her later it doesn't seem like Hotaru will accept it or anything. It looks more likely that Hotaru will end up figuring out her relationship with her roommate/friend.

Also if it goes the full on Nekome x Shiratori route then at least the age gap isn't that bad since she's a recent highschool grad (I hope I read that scene correctly) so it's just a 2 year gap, Shiratori also isn't her teacher so the power imbalance isn't too bad either. Although I still understand it still feeling uncomfortable as a teacher.

For me it also depends on where the story starts. If it starts in a toxic place I'm not bothered in the least by student/teacher relationships. But this one started fluffy so it's putting me off a bit.

But it's also just I feel like the story has in this chapter put forth three subtle options for Hotaru to "cheat" with in a way that might be all in my head but just felt off to me.

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The first chapter felt so cute, but this second chapter somehow made me really uncomfortable. Maybe it's the teacher in me, but there are lines being blurred here that feel weird, or at least have the potential to. For all I know, next chapter I'll feel like everything is fluffy again.

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Aya is still the cutest

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this feels like something that would be made by some weeb-turned-kreeb in the americas and posted to webtoons canvas before ultimately being picked up (except that would have a lot less polish)

It's common for K-Pop artists to release separate versions of their songs for the Japanese market, sometimes even fully original songs with no Korean version. In fact my impression a few years ago was that there were more songs by K-Pop artists with fully Japanese lyrics than fully English lyrics. With that in mind, I can't relate to the feeling that the concept of this work is the fantasy of an American.

It's also the case that there are plenty of scandals of idols in both Korea and Japan being found to have slept with fans (though usually they keep the gay ones out of the press and just focus on the straight ones), so this is also entirely possible. Especially for a retired Korean idol in Japan, very few people are gonna recognize her so she's much safer to go and party.

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kpop manga on dynasty is a honeypot to find minors to ban

There are 20 and 30 year old kpop fans? 2nd and 3rd gen fans tend to be older.

Since I used to follow kpop a lot and I read a fair amount of manhwa I didn't even realize that "unnie" was a weird thing to show up till I got to the notes and was like "oh yeah, they say oneechan in Japanese", like my brain fully didn't recognize the incongruity.

Also, yeah, Haneul/Solar definitely felt kind of manipulative. There's no way that A) she didn't purposefully get herself to Natsuki's place by pretending she's more drunk than she is, although the throwing up threw me off, and B) she doesn't know Natsuki is a fan of hers.

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Side ship really giving those visuals. The vibes are so good right now.

I think very few manga, yuri or otherwise, deal with catching feelings in a situationship and what to do when it's over. Like, they both caught feelings, but Nagi needed to end for both of them. I think that tracks really well.

The school trip will be fun! There will be so much gay in their room the other two won't know what to do with each other.

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Aya is just the fucking cutest.

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I don't relate to Rena, I don't get off on someone being as fucked up as me, but I would absolutely fall for Azu like Rena did.

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Fatale Game discussion 28 Aug 19:10
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Also, just noticed but her art has gotten a lot better compared to Run Away With Me, Girl. I remember the hands of the characters looking awkward before, but they look great here.

flowsthead
Fatale Game discussion 28 Aug 19:07
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I out loud yelled at my screen "what a bitch" and had to stop reading like twice in this chapter. I love it so much.

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Ch 70 I'm not really sure what anyone's arguing anymore. Is Youko specifically saying that in Class S, it can't exist without romance? Or just any senpai/kohai relationship can't exist without romance? Either statement seems really, really dumb.

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Diana is like a shoujo protagonist to me in her perseverance, while Lapis and Natori are struggling with some Josei-like issues, and the contrast is making it hard for me to care about Diana when she's with Natori. Diana and Allie? Super cute. Diana and Natori? I'm like, girl she's got bigger problems to deal with than you, and you still can't get her name right, please no.

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I'm probably going to get hated for this, but...

As much as I appreciate Mitsuki's character growth to becoming assertive and confident (and as much as Aya clearly appreciated that little move as well), Mitsuki is still showing facets of jealousy, control, and lack of trust. In real life, these things are huge red flags.

If someone had come up to Mitsuki and asked her about Western music, she would have gone into full "geek mode" and chatted them up non-stop; if said person had done that under the pretense of flirting with her, Mitsuki would not have noticed; she would have been ass-deep in gushing about Eric Clapton and George Harrison 0.38 seconds upon hearing the song playing on his phone. So, for her assume Aya couldn't deal with this shows a rather meaningful lack of trust, and maybe even a bit of projection.

And, considering the meaning of the song... Patti Boyd made her choice, and George Harrison respected it. Mitsuki would know that.

So yeah... I love this comic, I've loved it since the moment I first laid eyes on it, but I can't say I like this particular entry, and I hope it isn't the start of a dark path for Mitsuki.

I don't think you should get hated for this, but I agree with a lot of the replies. They're teenagers, a little insecurity is not unreasonable or a sign of future red flags.

On the other hand, I do also wonder how the Japan of it all factors into this. Controlling behavior is more common in Japanese culture where they don't want their partner to have opposite sex friends or to spend time alone with the opposite sex. I think this would also hold true for many people in Western countries, especially if they are older and married, but it's true for younger people in Japan (as far as I know). Mitsuki making it known here in public is in some ways helping the group know that it wouldn't be seen well socially for other people to hit on or confess to Aya.

The other part of it is that they're queer. Lesbian or sapphic relationships wouldn't be assumed by most students there. It would be hard for Ono to intuit that this wasn't an intense friendship without someone being explicit about it. So I think it is extra necessary, assuming Aya doesn't mind being outed, which considering that Aya's mom knows, I would think Aya doesn't care.

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squeeee
I live for shit like this. It's funny cause Aya has definitely marked her territory before, but Mitsuki is the first to do so after they started dating.

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Are they dating now and this manga will be kind of slice of life about their lives at college, or are they not dating yet and just in an intense hangout phase pre-relationship?

Personally, I liked the vibe of this manga more before this cosplay character showed up.

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Politics! What fun!

Politics is always tough in these kind of fantasy stories. I find most of them just give a light hint at it and really, really fail to capitalize on it. Plus, there's enough plot without it so I'm not expecting much, but I did like that this feels like a natural way for our two cuties to confront their feelings for each other.

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I feel like it's incorrect to call this "introversion", feels more like an anxiety and/or antisocial disorder

Yeah agreed. The summary also calls it such.

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When she says "it turns me on" on page 8, is that really that explicit? Cause that language doesn't feel like part of the roleplay.

I can't read.

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