ok now that turn creepy real quick. i mean wotttttttttttttttt ?!!!! who does that ?!! there's a high chance you're gonna creep someone out from homosexsual relationship by doing that rather than make them accept it

"Lez" also has an offensive angle to it in English that "rezu" does not for a Japanese lesbian.

Is that true? I feel like I sometimes see the term "lez"/"rezu" used an insulting or just ignorant way by a character in manga, and that's the vibe I get when the MC says it here. Honey & Honey shortens lesbian as "bian" and says that "'lezzie' has a derogatory connotation."

"And all of that ignores that the whole set up with the “bet” is designed to make Marika more resistant to “falling” since she doesn’t get paid if she does. Ugh."

That's confusing, because in this chapter Marika seems to have been paid up front? Does she have to give it back if she loses?

Rezu and lez is a porn category think of that way. So yeah not really the nicest way of saying yuri or lesbians but not offensive either I mean of course in the way you say it. I think of that way

That's confusing, because in this chapter Marika seems to have been paid up front? Does she have to give it back if she loses?

Seems like the bag was just a gift of sorts.

Vive la Lesbiennesistance is what happened to me after a week of Yuri. I am now lesbian. Which I believe is called straight since I'm also a guy.

This was a mental rollercoaster

ok now that turn creepy real quick. i mean wotttttttttttttttt ?!!!! who does that ?!! there's a high chance you're gonna creep someone out from homosexsual relationship by doing that rather than make them accept it

I agree, I mean as a gay person if someone forced me to read het manga everyday i would hate it so much
Fuwa is already very attractive, she doesn't have to do lame shit like that to make her fall for her :/

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I look at the title and thought "Oh, a light novel adaptation? Nice, I just read Otherside Picnic, this looks like it will be fun" Then after I read first chapter and thinking that it was all a bit wonky but I mean, it is just a setup and the girl is actually gay, so we might have something interesting here, maybe she just does the whole payment thing to have a friend and she really just feels lonely and treats the girl fine, so slow burn romance.
After reading second chapter, yeah, the writer clearly never TALKED to a real girl before. This is just a no. At least reading as someone that never went to Japan, this just feels like the stereotype that all lesbians are sexual predators. Who THE FUCK thinks that watching porn with someone that has zero interest in you, that you met for a week, is a good idea? She is forcing hugs and personal space, just everything she is doing is making the other girl creeped out.

TL;DR Expected a cute slow burn "oh I realized that I'm gay" instead got creepy sexual harasser

There's a lot more to it than that. I suggest staying along for the ride just to see everything pan out because stuff gets explained a lot more thoroughly and everything wraps up, neatly

ok now that turn creepy real quick. i mean wotttttttttttttttt ?!!!! who does that ?!! there's a high chance you're gonna creep someone out from homosexsual relationship by doing that rather than make them accept it

You're thinking of this, realistically, which you shouldn't. Instead, consider the fact that you got a closeted homosexual tsundere who's trying to resist her own feelings and a lesbian who has a gaydar so finely tuned that she can read the other girl's mind and know exactly what she wants and feels.

"And all of that ignores that the whole set up with the “bet” is designed to make Marika more resistant to “falling” since she doesn’t get paid if she does. Ugh."

That's confusing, because in this chapter Marika seems to have been paid up front? Does she have to give it back if she loses?

Yeah, she doesn't. If Marika loses, Aya keeps the rest of the money because she'd no longer need to have Marika under Compensated Dating because Marika would actually be dating her (and there's another reason that's a bit spoilery, regarding Aya's own finances). There's also the fact that, each day, Marika is paid up front and it's mentioned, in the LN, that she could've left at any time, after she's paid (and come back the next day to get paid, of course), but she didn't; she decided to stay and entertain Aya with whatever her wishes were because deep down, she wanted all that stuff but, y'know, she's a tsundere who isn't true to her own feelings

funny tl note.

"Rezu"? Come on... it's the Japanese for Lezz. A borrowed word from English. Translator didn't do their homework.

my bad, we'll do loan words literally from now on.

Okay, so i know theres a lot of problematic stuff with some of the situations we had on the second chapter (Mostly the forced skinship part), but its actually pretty funny how inept Fuwa is in trying to "convert" the MC. It almost feels like a parody of the pay for gay genre, but i honestly don't think this was nothing more than just a "haha lesbians, am i right?" gag the author put in. Though, i really hope theres not more "lesbian who doesn't know boundaries" vibes from Fuwa next chapter.

"And all of that ignores that the whole set up with the “bet” is designed to make Marika more resistant to “falling” since she doesn’t get paid if she does. Ugh."

That's confusing, because in this chapter Marika seems to have been paid up front? Does she have to give it back if she loses?

She was given the bag she wanted at the beginning of the chapter, so i guess it is implied the other girl paid some of the wager upfront.

You're thinking of this, realistically, which you shouldn't. Instead, consider the fact that you got a closeted homosexual tsundere who's trying to resist her own feelings and a lesbian who has a gaydar so finely tuned that she can read the other girl's mind and know exactly what she wants and feels.

I guess the MC loudly stating how its impossible for two girls to be together out of nowhere set that gaydar off? Also, please tell me that this gets better? I mean, the second chapter was pretty funny, but theres a lot of red flags in it that were hard to ignore.

Okay, so i know theres a lot of problematic stuff with some of the situations we had on the second chapter (Mostly the forced skinship part), but its actually pretty funny how inept Fuwa is in trying to "convert" the MC. It almost feels like a parody of the pay for gay genre, but i honestly don't think this was nothing more than just a "haha lesbians, am i right?" gag the author put in. Though, i really hope theres not more "lesbian who doesn't know boundaries" vibes from Fuwa next chapter.

"And all of that ignores that the whole set up with the “bet” is designed to make Marika more resistant to “falling” since she doesn’t get paid if she does. Ugh."

That's confusing, because in this chapter Marika seems to have been paid up front? Does she have to give it back if she loses?

She was given the bag she wanted at the beginning of the chapter, so i guess it is implied the other girl paid some of the wager upfront.

You're thinking of this, realistically, which you shouldn't. Instead, consider the fact that you got a closeted homosexual tsundere who's trying to resist her own feelings and a lesbian who has a gaydar so finely tuned that she can read the other girl's mind and know exactly what she wants and feels.

I guess the MC loudly stating how its impossible for two girls to be together out of nowhere set that gaydar off? Also, please tell me that this gets better? I mean, the second chapter was pretty funny, but theres a lot of red flags in it that were hard to ignore.

Yes, it does get better. It's just that Tsundere and Dubcon don't go well together but it does get better and things get explained by the end of the first arc

"Rezu"? Come on... it's the Japanese for Lezz. A borrowed word from English. Translator didn't do their homework.

my bad, we'll do loan words literally from now on.

That was a joke, right? Right!?

Please keep on translating just like before! You're doing fine!

Like Jananaberry said:

Yes, "rezu" is obviously from the katakana reading of "lez", but it's an entrenched term in Japanese nerd culture. "Lez" also has an offensive angle to it in English that "rezu" does not for a Japanese lesbian.

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Really hardcore this chap...kinda realistic thought

My hopes for this series are that Marika both realizes she's gay and then tears into Fuwa for being a manipulative idiot

Good News: You're in for a ride, then (so long as things are kept the same all the way to the end of the first LN Volume)

Hell yeah

That's confusing, because in this chapter Marika seems to have been paid up front? Does she have to give it back if she loses?

Yeah, she doesn't. If Marika loses, Aya keeps the rest of the money because she'd no longer need to have Marika under Compensated Dating because Marika would actually be dating her (and there's another reason that's a bit spoilery, regarding Aya's own finances). There's also the fact that, each day, Marika is paid up front and it's mentioned, in the LN, that she could've left at any time, after she's paid (and come back the next day to get paid, of course), but she didn't; she decided to stay and entertain Aya with whatever her wishes were because deep down, she wanted all that stuff but, y'know, she's a tsundere who isn't true to her own feelings

Since this would make a nonsense of my earlier comment, I'm going to assume they changed it to be an all-or-nothing deal in this version, and the bag is just a "sweetener".

Now that I've said that, we'll probably see actual money change hands in the next chapter...

When I first discovered Yuri I pretty much read it non-stop for almost 1 month. I think that was borderline an addiction. But well I'm read so much Yuri since then sometimes I don't have anything to read...

That's confusing, because in this chapter Marika seems to have been paid up front? Does she have to give it back if she loses?

Yeah, she doesn't. If Marika loses, Aya keeps the rest of the money because she'd no longer need to have Marika under Compensated Dating because Marika would actually be dating her (and there's another reason that's a bit spoilery, regarding Aya's own finances). There's also the fact that, each day, Marika is paid up front and it's mentioned, in the LN, that she could've left at any time, after she's paid (and come back the next day to get paid, of course), but she didn't; she decided to stay and entertain Aya with whatever her wishes were because deep down, she wanted all that stuff but, y'know, she's a tsundere who isn't true to her own feelings

Since this would make a nonsense of my earlier comment, I'm going to assume they changed it to be an all-or-nothing deal in this version, and the bag is just a "sweetener".

Now that I've said that, we'll probably see actual money change hands in the next chapter...

The bag was certainly a sweetener but it was a down payment of sorts, too. In general, every day Marika gets paid her $100, before they do any activities. However, if Marika lost to Aya, Aya gets to keep her money, mainly bc her gamble not only paid off but because there's no reason to pay Marika to date her if she's already dating her (and a more spoilery reason, to boot).

Passive tsundere

Hyped for chapter 3

I find it a bit odd that some people say the girl is being forced. She can peace out at any time, but she doesn't because it's not so bad that she won't try it for the money.

Needs some handholding, but I will wait.
I have 100 days

I conceptually appreciate that this is a story about someone telling the person they're manipulating everything about how they're going to manipulate them, but also showing porn to a minor is a pretty yikes thing for it to be about, even if the other character is also underage.

ok now that turn creepy real quick. i mean wotttttttttttttttt ?!!!! who does that ?!! there's a high chance you're gonna creep someone out from homosexsual relationship by doing that rather than make them accept it

I agree, I mean as a gay person if someone forced me to read het manga everyday i would hate it so much
Fuwa is already very attractive, she doesn't have to do lame shit like that to make her fall for her :/

I mean as another gay person even with all the extra fucked up implications of a straight person trying to make me straight, I would still accept hard cash from a rich homophobe for listening to him try and convert me a couple hours a day and consuming god awful straight media.

But yeah, this is pretty much massive creep behavior unless the next 5 chapters are about how creep girl overheard straighty saying nothing but repressed lesbian lines every day of class before the plot started. And even then it's definitely a creep way to handle it, but I get the idea at least

Vive la Lesbiennesistance is what happened to me after a week of Yuri. I am now lesbian. Which I believe is called straight since I'm also a guy.

Me in high school before I knew that gender is the game where everything is made up and the points don't matter and I can just be a girl.

Me in high school before I knew that gender is the game where everything is made up and the points don't matter and I can just be a girl.

same, my gender is just whatever is the most gae at any given moment

Whew guess I'm in for a wild ride. This series seems like a poorly written hentai plot on how to groom your own personal lesbian. May someone spoil whether or not they get sexy time or is it endless ecchi and teasing until the end?

alexisomorphic posted:

I conceptually appreciate that this is a story about someone telling the person they're manipulating everything about how they're going to manipulate them, but also showing porn to a minor is a pretty yikes thing for it to be about, even if the other character is also underage.

The author is probably trying to show how they are self-aware and you should probably no take this series too seriously (especially with that Futaribeya reference).

Okay, just gonna ask, who bought her those adult movies?

Causecasxa high schooler she shouldnt bexzble to buy them. Unless she got parents who are cool with buying her porn for her