I am amused at people discussing the term queen bee.
I think the problem is the difference in concepts between China and Japan. These girls were definitely not sukeban and they were even less at the top of the gyaru/popular clique. And they don't fit in the template of "female school prince" either; they manifestly don't have crowds of fangirls. We know they were alpha girls in their middle schools, but the Japanese cliché roles don't work for them. And that's fine, because this is Chinese manhua: no reason why it should follow Japanese patterns. We just have to accept that there are characters like them in China, who fall outside of our expectations.
I was thinking about renaming the series to a romanization of the title, Ao Hada Kyonyuu to Kuso Bocchi, because I see lots of people, at each chapter release, complaining about how this would be more popular if the title wasn't mentioning tits (even though the title means what I translated it to).
The manga is great.
The title is great.
The translation is great.
Tits are great.
People who want to censor the word tits? Not so great. Like, at all.
Please please stick to Blue Skin, Big Tits and a Fucking Loner, the title we all love.
I would appreciate if a Westerner could, just one time, realise the incredible irony of criticising Chinese for being indoctrinated by propaganda, when you are so deep into your own country's propaganda that you disregard reality and are content with lies being spread as long as they conform to your biases. I said no word in defense of the CCP, only in defense of truthful information. Telling that you chose to interpret advocating against misinformation as a negative thing, because the truth doesn't agree with you.
The brainwashing in Western countries is indeed terrifying. People are bombarded with propaganda pretty much since they are old enough to sit in front of a tv screen (and that usually happens before they even articulate their first word). It's like living in the Matrix, except that nobody will kindly offer you a red pill. You need to think hard by yourself and do a lot of searching to realize that in the world there are red ideas, red countries, red truths that the Western governments and the Western media desperately try to block out with a steady bombardment of blue pills.
These days, I only check the stuff the comes from Western news agencies to shake my head in disgust at the constant distortion of evidences and the blatant lies. Sadly most people don't know better. You talk to them about any subject, it's always the same inability to process facts. The Covid pandemic, say. You tell them: China has six times the population of the USA. China was completely unprepared when the pandemic hit, while the USA had more than a year to prepare. China: about 100,000 cases and 5,000 deaths. USA: about 50,000,000 cases and nearly a million deaths. Which country has the better government? They just gape at you and don't know what to say.
And what? Did I read the previous comments right? Using fictional manhwa or kdrama as source? Lol.. it's like equating anime repesenting real Japanese society. Please tell me it's just for humor..
You're a bit of a dumbo, dear, aren't you?
Watching American tv shows (SOL/family/workplace shows) I learned that people in America are white with some colored minorities, speak English, are predominantly Christians, work for the most part in private companies, are strict with their kids and even spank them if they misbehave, but can't do anything sexual to children or else they'll go to jail. But wait—these shows are fiction! From this you, savvy scholar that you are, conclude that Americans are all dark-skinned Shintoists who speak Swahili, work as public sector employees, never discipline their kids, and have sex with minors all the time because pedophilia is legal! You won't be tricked by fiction!
( /sarcasm off )
Nene said there's a fuckton of reports and papers documenting the problem of workplace violence in Korea, from government agencies, journals, watchdog groups and all sorts of sources. Here's one example:
Am I the only person kind of weirded out that a magazine writer would track down and question children about their attempted double suicide to "set the record straight"? Were they that starved for stories that they had to corner a couple of hormonal powerhouses about why they made a dumb decision?
lesbian suicides or attempted suicides were all the rage in prewar magazines, it's not weird at all. Distasteful maybe, but not weird.
It was also the standard way to end a yuri novel or manga—with the tragic suicide (or for greater ambiguity the "accidental-death-that-looks-an-awful-lot-like-a-suicide") of one or both of the lesbians.
You find it in postwar fiction too, all the way to the last stretch of the 20th century.
And the past is the past, it's astonishing to see some people consider her toxic while kishi will make sure that she will become the "savior" of mask ...
Well, Kitta Izumi will make sure that Liz from Liberty gets everything she wants in the end, including Maki as her love slave. Doesn't mean it's a good idea. Or that the readers will appreciate it.
And the worst part is that you don't even see where kishi is leading the relationship and for kaoru and mask.
To cut short this idea of hating her because you'd prefer onibi, onibi it's going to happen with NAO!
Don't be so butthurt and bitter just because other people disapprove of your pet ship.
The way the story goes is by definition irrelevant to shipping.
Some people like to throw around the word 'toxic' like it's confetti. I've lost count of how many times I've seen a girl in a manga yell "DIE!" to a friend or relative without really meaning it... and most often they don't even need to apologize as the other person can tell it was just the impulse expression of a momentarily negative emotional state, not her true feelings or wishes. And yet look at the hating that fills this thread.
When I read 236, I was blown away by the overwhelming power of pure love that Mask poured out on Onibi during all the first half of the chapter. And after she murmured her "curse" I was anguished by her extreme distress and obvious disgust with herself that even made her cry bitter tears of shame. Such a small fault, and yet it was enough to make her despair like that. And later at the library she kept struggling with mortification and the fear of being unworthy of Onibi. A more beautiful cinnamon roll you won't find in this world.
I don't really care about Kaoru and I'm not interested in the discussion about her character... but trying to defend her by shitting on Mask is just sad and silly.
There's the Yukiko that I know and love! I love that she does basically ultra-fluff like Futaribeya and also… this.
Same!! It's so cool she goes from fluffy town to...well...the other stuff.
Hahaha. I wonder, do you recall the alternative settings for Futaribeya? It was a bonus oneshot where Yukiko explored all the different ways the story could have gone if she tweaked a little bit the basic premises. In one of these parallel worlds, Kasumi was a QUEEN: a sadistic, dominant character who wanted her partner to be an obedient servant, a total sub. Of course, the big suspenseful question for us readers was: what would Sakurako's reaction be?
Well, we quickly found out: the two met for the first time (just like in the original manga) and it took Sakurako about thirty seconds to decide that she wanted to be Kasumi's lowly slave forever. XD
I'm guessing that, if Futaribeya had actually gone by these premises, the relationship between the two girls would have progressed until turning into something pretty close to the one Asano and Oikawa have.
They have one of the longest average lifespans of any country. They must be doing something right.
Also one of the highest suicide rates and the dubious honor of having a word for "death by overwork".
Being honest is, indeed, a honor. You wanna know which country in the world has the highest rate of deaths by overwork? The USA. Then come many third world countries from Africa and South America, then Asian countries like Japan. The Japanese are, afaik, the only ones who don't try to hide the truth behind these passings. In the USA, the corporate establishment is very strict about never using the word "overwork" when related to deceases: a death by overwork is usually described as a simple "cardiovascular accident." Sometimes a "cardiovascular accident due to an unhealthy lifestyle." The reports never spell out that the unhealthy lifestyle in question was a workload of 16 hours a day.
As for suicides, I don't really have info about the problem, but my educated guess would be that culture has a lot to do with it. It's one thing to live in a country where religion teaches you that suicide is the worst of mortal sins, another to live in a country where tradition teaches you that suicide is the ultimate act of courage and uprightness.
We're now getting specific events from the past being replayed, but the presence of the older MC herself seems to make no difference at all--things just play out as if the older girl has always been there.
Not entirely true... it's a sure bet that, in the pre-timeslip timeline, teen Nana was the one who was pranked and scared by Kaedeko. It may not be much, but it's a change.
If Aya becomes a successful actress thanks to "Mai" now that'll be a huge change.
How come Pay for gay series always have the best plots?
Lesbianism and prostitution go well together? :P
My theory is that because yuri (as a narrative genre -- not talking about yuri porn here) has historically struggled with the topic of sexuality (probably because, as we all know, sexuality is an exclusively male phenomenon in Japan /s), stories that put sex work front and center clear that gap by default, letting the authors just tell their stories without going through the "required" motions of "but we are both girls!" and "how do two women even do it?" It's amazing how much creativity is freed up when you just adopt the basic framework that some women do have sex with other women and build on top of it.
That's really well-thought-out, and you're most likely absolutely right.