Finally do not forget the kid who will enter the club, it seems to me that we see him stealthily several times in the manga in the background ...

He's a first year so he only started appearing a couple chapters ago when they moved up a year. If he's going to be an actual character, I think he will factor in once Koyuki has to leave club activities behind to focus on her exams and later if the manga will still go on once Koyuki graduates, to show Konatsu's third year. I really doubt he'll be anything more than background fluff though, so far the story has worked with just the two main characters plus Kaede, who is still going to be around once Koyuki graduates.

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Oof. The fact that her mother was easily able to suggest inviting over Kaede, but wasn''t even sure who Konatsu was? I felt that one. If Konatsu heard that, she'd probably scream. What an intense and turbulent friend triangle.

I legit think I hate this manga. Like no, really. I think I do, its normalizing conflicting and confusing feelings that are obviously love as just female friendship. Its so obvious the author tried to "placate" "Yuri" fans by queer baiting and then at the end of this manga's run, evidently by its off the cuff writing style, they are just going to write it all off as just friendly love and a small disagreement.... Im sorry but WTF is this shit. This is why im so frustrated with Yuri and manga in general right now. All it is is school girls and S type bull shit written for men...... man im so mad I wasted my time with another S class manga.

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Oof. The fact that her mother was easily able to suggest inviting over Kaede, but wasn''t even sure who Konatsu was? I felt that one. If Konatsu heard that, she'd probably scream. What an intense and turbulent friend triangle.

Luckily she managed to pull it off at the end, I mean, helping her daughter... but yeah that hurt lo/

Finally do not forget the kid who will enter the club, it seems to me that we see him stealthily several times in the manga in the background ...

He's a first year so he only started appearing a couple chapters ago when they moved up a year. If he's going to be an actual character, I think he will factor in once Koyuki has to leave club activities behind to focus on her exams and later if the manga will still go on once Koyuki graduates, to show Konatsu's third year. I really doubt he'll be anything more than background fluff though, so far the story has worked with just the two main characters plus Kaede, who is still going to be around once Koyuki graduates.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/nettaigyo_wa_yuki_ni_kogareru_ch19#21 it looks like he is there and it seems to me in another older chapter and that he was not necessarily in school. But amazing this manga hides a lot of little things or fills with details.

Yes it is true that we are not used to seeing new characters apart kaede, and even fuyuki, the father and mother of koyuki.
I think her can open up new perspectives, necessarily given that koyuki will almost no longer be in the club (she will come to visit anyway). I do not think that the author will move quickly until the end of the school year, we will surely see other evolutions, new sensations of heroines.Normally after that they will get closer and talk to each other much more easily.
Why not for the first time a feeling of jealousy of koyuki seeing the young boy become close to konatsu, would be a feeling that she never felt contrary to konatsu.

Gale posted:

Oof. The fact that her mother was easily able to suggest inviting over Kaede, but wasn''t even sure who Konatsu was? I felt that one. If Konatsu heard that, she'd probably scream. What an intense and turbulent friend triangle.

Luckily she managed to pull it off at the end, I mean, helping her daughter... but yeah that hurt lo/

At the same time koyuki quickly cut short kaede. After koyuki's explanations his mother even understood that konatsu had done things that even she (his mother) couldn't do. Her mom definitely understood (and the dad secretly listening to her ^^) that konatsu is the most important friend for koyuki...
After the author is very strong to support some details, this dialogue is not innocent, it shows that koyuki didn't even make the effort to invite her best friend home unlike kaede, a sign that she missed a lot of things as a close friend like not telling konatsu that their meeting was special, to forget to send the sms when she's in tokyo, to forget to insist when she's surprised with kaede that konatsu comes to eat a cake with them, not to tell her but kaede these university choices, in short a lot of details that show the "mistakes" that koyuki hadn't even noticed.
Except in this chapter where we see her more upset than ever and understand at the end that she made a mistake.

Yuri ending or I-

Flowerchild writes a friendship story with making out while Makoto-sensei writes a friendship story about mustering up that courage to confess. Someone needs to take some notes I believe.
Don't get me wrong, I love this story, but this little drama was absolutely unbecoming and unnecessary.

There were no promises that this will be a story in yuri genre and how is this s-class when they are not even dating each other nor having feeling of a romantic love. Friendship can be intimate too and stories about it do exist. Friendship is a relationship with another person and it has similar conflicts like other relationships. It a shame to see this conversation over and over and this extent of labeling things right and left are oversaturates and erases real queerbait. I can understand bitterness over lack of good yuri-stories, but why do this.

There were no promises that this will be a story in yuri genre and how is this s-class when they are not even dating each other nor having feeling of a romantic love. Friendship can be intimate too and stories about it do exist. Friendship is a relationship with another person and it has similar conflicts like other relationships. It a shame to see this conversation over and over and this extent of labeling things right and left are oversaturates and erases real queerbait. I can understand bitterness over lack of good yuri-stories, but why do this.

Exactly. It really does sicken me when I see the sort of hateful, narrow minded bigotry towards "het" on here that I would expect from a 19th century white plantation owner seeing a black man kissing his daughter.

There were no promises that this will be a story in yuri genre and how is this s-class when they are not even dating each other nor having feeling of a romantic love. Friendship can be intimate too and stories about it do exist. Friendship is a relationship with another person and it has similar conflicts like other relationships. It a shame to see this conversation over and over and this extent of labeling things right and left are oversaturates and erases real queerbait. I can understand bitterness over lack of good yuri-stories, but why do this.

Exactly. It really does sicken me when I see the sort of hateful, narrow minded bigotry towards "het" on here that I would expect from a 19th century white plantation owner seeing a black man kissing his daughter.

Yeah the heterophobia here is so evil and real! except their comment had nothing to do with that, no one mentioned heterosexual romance at all, and heterophobia doesn't exist. Calling heterophobia as real as 18th century racism, which killed hundreds of thousands of people, subjugated millions, caused a war, and so on, is so fucking shortsighted and assholic that I am left almost speechless. This feels like a blatant troll, and I'm honestly stunned that someone saying shit like this would have made over 500 comments without getting banned somehow.

There were no promises that this will be a story in yuri genre and how is this s-class when they are not even dating each other nor having feeling of a romantic love. Friendship can be intimate too and stories about it do exist. Friendship is a relationship with another person and it has similar conflicts like other relationships. It a shame to see this conversation over and over and this extent of labeling things right and left are oversaturates and erases real queerbait. I can understand bitterness over lack of good yuri-stories, but why do this.

Exactly. It really does sicken me when I see the sort of hateful, narrow minded bigotry towards "het" on here that I would expect from a 19th century white plantation owner seeing a black man kissing his daughter.

Calling heterophobia as real as 18th century racism, which killed hundreds of thousands of people, subjugated millions, caused a war, and so on, is so fucking shortsighted and assholic that I am left almost speechless

Cut the strawman shit out and chill lol

To be honest, I haven't been following this manga properly ever since that arc where they went on a school trip or something, I can barely remember, and yeah, checking some bits here and there only makes me realized that there is barely much progression between both Koyuki and Konatsu, which is weird because I thought that these two were close earlier, but somewhat falls apart so easily later??? Yeah, I knew it's probably gotta have something to do with that jealousy stuff but I kept thinking, are these two really that fragile? Well, Koyuki anyway seems like so, which is understandable somewhat but get a grip, girl. It's probably realistic to have someone like her loitering around, heck, there are probably worse people out there that's such a drama queen but she's she and I really want her to make it easy for herself. Take some time to talk with Konatsu and let's carry the plot further to the point where they'd kiss and make up. Yeah, that's cool, right?

TLDR: Let's cut the drama and see something that is progressive going on.

Don’t get me wrong, I repeat myself: I’ll be happy either way till it be this well written and have compelling ending. Maybe more happy when it goes yuri route, lol. And It's understandable that someone is disappointed that this is not yuri, just story about friendship. But it is not queerbaiting and class-s, come on.

I loved this manga at first, then started to hate it when the drama tag appeared, then started to like it a bit...
It's technically a "telenovela" at this point and I don't know how to feel about it anymore.
I still hope for a romance and the author saying "I didn't called it a yuri manga because it would have been an spoiler" but I'll be content with just a happy ending without any kind of romance.

There were no promises that this will be a story in yuri genre and how is this s-class when they are not even dating each other nor having feeling of a romantic love. Friendship can be intimate too and stories about it do exist. Friendship is a relationship with another person and it has similar conflicts like other relationships. It a shame to see this conversation over and over and this extent of labeling things right and left are oversaturates and erases real queerbait. I can understand bitterness over lack of good yuri-stories, but why do this.

Exactly. It really does sicken me when I see the sort of hateful, narrow minded bigotry towards "het" on here that I would expect from a 19th century white plantation owner seeing a black man kissing his daughter.

Bigotry towards het? lmaooooooooo. Do you have brain damage? Hets aren't being oppressed and never will be and to compare it with racism is just fucking stupid.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/nettaigyo_wa_yuki_ni_kogareru_ch19#21 it looks like he is there and it seems to me in another older chapter and that he was not necessarily in school. But amazing this manga hides a lot of little things or fills with details.

Interesting, though with him being faceless in those panels you can't really tell if it's meant to be the same person. Maybe the author could be asked on twitter.

It doesn't even bore me to read this manga to said this: OK! You guys are gay! We're fuckingly get it! Now get a bloody room and ends game like yagatekimi sth sth!

This is the kind of manga that gives you excited at first and boring after that. Enough to make me think, just end this shit already. I don't give a damn whether it is yuri nor het. Just axes it, so tired to follow this load of crap.

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I‘m also on the very verge of dropping this manga. I know, yuri wasn‘t promised to begin with, but their relationship is beyond just friendship level and it‘s getting even more frustrating the more I see this manga progress. If the author doesn‘t want it to be yuri, they should just stop implying all sorts of things.

i don't know, seeing the author's livestreams seems like there will be much more drama to yet be seen

Oh wow, she's drawing the next chapter right now. It's really interesting to see how it's done.

Exactly. It really does sicken me when I see the sort of hateful, narrow minded bigotry towards "het" on here that I would expect from a 19th century white plantation owner seeing a black man kissing his daughter.

I had my loudest "Bruh" after reading your comment...

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Although Koyuki's dad confiscating her phone after she apparently checked it once in her entire school career seems a little too strict, [...]

Rules are rules. And seeing his reaction to the other teacher bringing it up with him first, his main reason for doing this seems to be less just the rules and more to help Koyuki out of the lonely spot of the unapproachable exemplar student both the teachers and students keep pushing her into.

Yup, her streams are so cool.

I was going to write a big comment but I think I don't have much else to say, I probably one of the few people that is not frustrated with this manga lol

I just complimented her on her work and she read the comment and replied, it's nice that she tries to engage her English-speaking followers too.

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i don't know, seeing the author's livestreams seems like there will be much more drama to yet be seen

I never expected them to sit down and talk things out next chapter just like that, but unless one has an accident o decides to take the first train back to tokyo just to avoid the confrontation we should be good.

Where does she stream???
Can someone link it pls