Itou Hachi back at it again with being a disgusting mother fucker. I’d really like to never see anything from them ever again.

But you still clicked on it and read it, even left a comment...just why.

Do you always read things you hate just to complain about it? The tags are there, so you really don't have any excuse.

In this case I can recommend fatal pulse, if you don't know their works yet.

I went and read some stuff by Fatal Pulse, it makes this look like a Disney dream.

I’m usually okay with Itou Hachi, and this one was pretty cute. But. I see no child there. She needs to talk to some real children [...]

I'm sure there's a court order preventing that

omg lmao that one had me going.

on to the topic of grooming...she is 100% doing that. if i found out that a college aged adult had some kind of pact like this with my 10 yr old daughter i would go apeshit. you take this set up and plug it into the real world. a real, little 10 yr old girl, with a full grown adult, making vows like this to have sex when she turns 18, and maintaining a dating (granted sex free) relationship until then, and you can feel how wrong that is. but, then again, this whole scenario is fiction. idk why japanese manga artists think that kids in preschool are capable of falling in love so frequently when they are not lol. and the artist tries to make people think aww isn't the older girl sweet, she's making them wait til the child is of age before they do anything and i'm just like what? lol. it's okay for her to be so into listening to the kid peeing, going as far as going in to even watch her do it, so long as she doesn't sleep with the kid? what a low bar lol.

and this isn't written to say zomgz deletes all the loli mangas burn in hell. i occasionally read some, more often out of boredom when nothing good has been uploaded in a few days, but honestly? as wrong and horrible as pedophelia is, what if, WHAT IF, being able to get on these sites, and read a few of these a day, is enough to keep a real pedo happy, and from going out and actually going for a real kid? to play devil's advocate as it were, i can't imagine EVERYONE who finds their attractions to kids are too happy about it themselves, and are able to find just being able to read these on here is enough to satisfy their fantasies. idk, this is all theoretical, i've never met or talked to a real pedo, nor am i a psychologist, so it's all just supposition. bottom line, pedophilia is a thing, and no matter how people rant and rave it will never go away. but if they can stare at a manga for a few hours, beat themselves off and be done for the day instead of staring at one of my daughters fantasizing about one of them, i'd say let the authors keep writing.

edit: and when i do read a loli manga myself, you bet i never skip out on the comments they are always so funny lol

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Also, am I the only one disappointed with the "watersports" tag? I expected some Asagi Ryuu shit there and got a lame "listening to pee" fetish ;(

I am having more fun reading the comments than the manga itself haha. Honestly, if they post some guro yuri, does people also complain about , normalizing murder and chopping people off, for example? I think not.

The story is eh ok,I've seen worse.

If only someone would scanlate more chapters

I am having more fun reading the comments than the manga itself haha. Honestly, if they post some guro yuri, does people also complain about , normalizing murder and chopping people off, for example? I think not.

The story is eh ok,I've seen worse.

If only someone would scanlate more chapters

...I INSTANTLY clicked on it.

I can only say LOL and WTF. at the very same time.
thanks.

Ironically, if this was full hentai, ala Softcharm, there wouldn't be so many complaints.

Porn is somehow more acceptable than fluff. Says a lot about the state of decay of our societies.

Grooming is an essential part of staying healthy.

A new short story by Itou Hachi is uploaded.
A little while later, there are five pages of comments.

Just another day at Dynasty Forum.

i can't imagine EVERYONE who finds their attractions to kids are too happy about it themselves

This is a very good point that I'm sure many are unaware of or simply not willing to consider. It will never be ok for an adult and a child to have a romantic relationship together (nor should it be), but that does not stop people from being attracted to who they are attracted to. More focus should be given to things that help protect children from the real predators while not demonizing those who never act on their unfortunate attractions.

KatzeDerNacht posted:

I am having more fun reading the comments than the manga itself haha. Honestly, if they post some guro yuri, does people also complain about , normalizing murder and chopping people off, for example? I think not.

The story is eh ok,I've seen worse.

Not guro but I would looooooooooooooooove to have Kitanai Kimi Ga translated here, is just so twisted and it has such a cute art, people would lose their heads as the story goes on... and it would be pretty funny too to see the people trying their hardest to get it deleted instead of ...idk, stop reading it themselves.

Ironically, if this was full hentai, ala Softcharm, there wouldn't be so many complaints.

Porn is somehow more acceptable than fluff. Says a lot about the state of decay of our societies.

I wanted to mention this, especially after all the "leave the fiction we like alone" replies, but decided not to, because it'll probably fall on deaf—angry and/or troll—ears:

I like a lot of Itou Hachi's work. In the ones having Animal ears, the fiction is very clear, and it makes it easy to not take the problematic elements seriously (slavery, arranged marriage, a different species whose members may remain like little girls with animal features while they live, etc.) and just focus on the nice art, atmosphere, romance, comedy, etc. When it comes to hentai, it's obvious that its main purpose is to be masturbation material, often without plot and with over-the-top themes. I agree with that if it keeps pedophiles from going after real children, I don't mind any amount of it being created.

The problem with this particular work is that it has a realistic setting, it isn't a hentai, so it makes the impression of asking the question: "Is this fine?" As if it is trying to test or bend the boundaries of what is acceptable.

Then once the grooming in it got pointed out as being wrong, despite how wholesome it's depicted, to answer that question, instead of just replies like "it's just some interesting fiction, we know it's wrong, don't get bent out of shape over it," some people out of feeling something of theirs being endangered, or only for trolling, started defending the characters' actions, moving the conversation again beyond the whole "it's just fiction" reasoning, or even went to "I'm not a pedophile, you're the pedophile!" style of replies.

The replies explaining away or romanticizing the depicted grooming itself are admittedly scary. Not for the people doing that being pedophiles, but for such replies potentially encouraging those who are, and for the signs of ignorance that may apply in the real world, too. What would you do if you were that colleague or schoolmate Ruki talks to, or if Otome were your friend, sister, or daughter?

Content like this may not help refuting claims like "most LGBTQ+ people are after children, too," yet I never asked for its removal. (Though personal experience has shown that the hentai content makes the site unfit for introducing western people to harmless, quality yuri manga in the first place, because a wrong click from a regular story can bring them to a hentai that to them isn't different from child porn. Since I didn't even know about filters back then, not sure if they even existed, I didn't think about setting up a whole account for them and having them sign in before giving any links. Thanks for the advice ahead of time, though.)

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Itou Hachi is truly a hero of our times.

and

Counterpoint: grooming is ok if its cute and yuri.

@Minalinsky I just want you to know I love every comment of yours.

Please keep writing in this forum forever.

The salt from the butthurt dumbfucks who can't read tags is healing to me.

We should make this into a new version of Niven's Law:

"There is a technical, literary term for those who can't read tags and write posts to complain about stories they should have avoided in the first place. The term is 'butthurt dumbfuck'."

What would you do if you were that colleague or schoolmate Ruki talks to, or if Otome were your friend, sister, or daughter?

Did i missread the part where the schoolmate find the relation gross and call her a lolicon ? As for the family, well they don't know, they just think she is a reliable Onee-san and had no ulterior motive whatsoever but you can't seriously think any family member will be ok with that if they know what's behind neither i will be ok with that kind of situation.

Though personal experience has shown that the hentai content makes the site unfit for introducing western people to harmless, quality yuri manga in the first place

That's why Tags are for thought, if you still read a doujin or manga even if you see the NSFW tag then that mean you choose to read it.

What would you do if you were that colleague or schoolmate Ruki talks to, or if Otome were your friend, sister, or daughter?

Depends.
Is this hypothetical RL Riku stand-in a cute yuri dork?

The answer is incredibly important as my response to this hinges solely on that question.

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Okay, Evitron and GaryHotSoup each get 30 days off for personal attacks. Calling people "pedo" is out of bounds unless you got some actual evidence, and liking a loli manga doesn't count.

That said, getting personal in the other direction is not acceptable either, and I'm seeing where a couple of people are skirting pretty close to that line. It'd be a good idea to not escalate further, k?

Grooming is an essential part of staying healthy.

You damn right

I think it's like that for a lot of people. Men are seen as inherently more perverse/dangerous than women... and really that's not so much the case.

Perverse? Perhaps not more perverse. More dangerous?

Well, we don't exactly see a lot of female mass killers or husband beaters in comparison to the reverse now do we lmao.

Women tend to be more subtle and "under the radar" with what they do, coupled with what is generally a societal accord that women aren't capable, that makes it easier to get away with stuff... but it is definitely a problem. Also female domestic abuse is just woefully underreported and sadly still more widely accepted as somehow okay. But I digress from the greater discussion at hand, which is that lolicon stuff can be pretty questionable at times.

Stories with a man beating his woman, are horrible tales of abuse. Stories with a woman beating her man, comedy gold. Especially in manga and anime.

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Itou Hachi is truly a hero of our times.

we must both thank her for so much she has given to us, and ask her for mercy since we always give back so little

Stories with a man beating his woman, are horrible tales of abuse. Stories with a woman beating her man, comedy gold. Especially in manga and anime.

Because the underlying assumption that girls are too weak to actually hurt guys physically
Which is not exactly a positive interpretation for girls either.

The relative uncommon nature of it adds to that.

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The culture wars are strong here, but do not amount to much if won. I suggest taking this energy somewhere relevant, like your state or local representatives, and demand they take those horrifying laws off the books that let people marry 14 year olds. At the end of the day, if Dynasty removes this content from their site, nothing of consequence changes. But some real life activism? Now that's something to write home about.

Also, if you're introducing someone to yuri, please give them a book instead of sending them to a site with pornography on it. This may be silly coming from me, but piracy is still bad, m'kay?

what kind of absolute beta hides the sound of their piss? where's that stickman comic of a guy whizzing out a sonic freaking high pressurized jetstream on concrete as his friend watches in emotionless contempt and awe

I dunno, just block the Lolicon tag and don't read Itou Hachi. What even the point of reading something you know you don't like and come complain after that you hate what you have read when knowing you hate it ? Just ignore the damn thing.

THIS!!!

what kind of absolute beta hides the sound of their piss? where's that stickman comic of a guy whizzing out a sonic freaking high pressurized jetstream on concrete as his friend watches in emotionless contempt and awe

Um, hi? I guess? I turn on the water if there's even a remote chance of someone hearing me... I don't consider myself especially "beta", however. Just someone with deep-seated privacy issues...

Also, if you're introducing someone to yuri, please give them a book instead of sending them to a site with pornography on it. This may be silly coming from me, but piracy is still bad, m'kay?

I put books into people's hands, if they wish, as I buy both Japanese and English publications. Though I try taking care of the books as well, so unless someone visits me, rather than bringing the books somewhere, it's much easier and safer to give a link. Also, if someone is just curious what yuri is, asking them to buy a book is probably too much.