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Minalinsky
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joined Mar 27, 2018

I am both happy and sad, help.

Oie_1603841raayvbqe
joined Mar 27, 2018

It's gonna be hard for shimanura if she is an extrovert while having a clingy introvert girlfriend who wants her all by herself.I hope she can handle it well before this relationship gets toxic af.

Shimamura is just as much of an introvert as Adachi - if not more.

Minalinsky
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joined Mar 27, 2018

Peak romance

Minalinsky
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joined Mar 27, 2018

youre saying the father is an asshat but honestly his reaction is valid considering his two daughters were kissing on a regular basis with one of them being a child and the other being ?? whatever age she is

I would think the valid reaction would be giving enough of a damn to talk to both of them to try to mend their relationship into something healthier, and separating them as a last resort rather than jumping to "you can never see each other again" and then marrying one of your daughters off to some older friend of yours while abandoning the other to live by herself with 0 support in her life.

If I could strangle a man to death it would be this one.

last edited at Jan 27, 2025 2:31AM

Minalinsky
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And the more I think about it, her dad probably married her to one of his friends to make sure she stays controlled her entire life like the way he's controlling her.

jfc im malding

Minalinsky
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joined Mar 27, 2018

This whole chapter was a series of "Oh no" moments. Including the MC going I don't want to fix her, I want to make her worse, with deciding to become more like the series.

Putting the incest and Kasane's horniness aside, I hope I'm not the only one that does think the father's actions are off putting.

"You are forbidden from seeing your sister and now I will marry you off to my older dude friend" just gives me all the wrong vibes.

Honestly, I agree with Meguru that it makes me want to throw up. Not sure why but I find it especially gross in this story - maybe because I'm afraid they'll just have Hiromi married off and never bring it up again. I'm not saying Hiromi should get with her sister but she deserves better than "live according to your father's wishes and maybe he'll allow you to do things :^)"

Oh yeah the father is disgusting. She's an adult and she's only allowed to see her sister if the father "allows" it? Fuck that. Also marrying his daughter off to a man that looks like him? Fucking weird. She needs to find personal agency and rebel against him.

The older dude friend he married her off too probably is a shithead too.

He's "hard headed but can be reliable and kind." Where have I heard this line before? thonk It's never "he respects me and treats me like an equal," no, it's always the woman describing her partner the way you should be describing your dad, not your husband.

last edited at Jan 26, 2025 3:43PM

Minalinsky
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joined Mar 27, 2018

Putting the incest and Kasane's horniness aside, I hope I'm not the only one that does think the father's actions are off putting.

"You are forbidden from seeing your sister and now I will marry you off to my older dude friend" just gives me all the wrong vibes.

Honestly, I agree with Meguru that it makes me want to throw up. Not sure why but I find it especially gross in this story - maybe because I'm afraid they'll just have Hiromi married off and never bring it up again. I'm not saying Hiromi should get with her sister but she deserves better than "live according to your father's wishes and maybe he'll allow you to do things :^)"

last edited at Jan 26, 2025 2:28PM

Oie_1603841raayvbqe
joined Mar 27, 2018

Idk where the bad writing complaint is coming from. Honestly, I thought the chapter of them talking about why she stays with the shitty guy pretty well written.

Edit: Just realized the post that was complaining about the story was the same person that blamed a minor for getting groomed. Well, that explains it.

last edited at Jan 12, 2025 9:00PM

Oie_1603841raayvbqe
joined Mar 27, 2018

the way she grew her hand back makes no goddamn sense but its funny so whatever lmao
on a completely unrelated note, i wonder if the way female villains would be considered misogyny to some people

That would depend entirely on why they are considered villainesses in their story.
There is a big gulf between a slightly sexist "she is an arrogant woman so she's a villainess" and a probably not sexist "she committed war crimes so she's a villainess."

Of course, I love both of them regardless.

last edited at Jan 10, 2025 3:39PM

Oie_1603841raayvbqe
joined Mar 27, 2018

My main issue with the chapter is just me wondering how the hell she grew her arm back from just “oh maybe I can use genes” like how tf is that related to magic lmao. Or was it some weird alchemy she made up on the spot combing knowledge of magic from the game and the knowledge of a C student gyaru from a public school?

Apply magic directly to the forearm.
Don't think about it too much, probably.

So unless illusion magic exists then Prince leo needs some serious growing up to do...

Throwing a public tantrum is pretty pathetic either way, honestly, even if he thought he was being deceived (which is still a ridiculous assumption - who fakes an injury and then goes "jk im fine lmao dw about it" before getting anything out of it?)

Also Almelia crying while apologizing is so precious. This is why I can't get enough of villainess stories, inject that shit directly into my veins.

last edited at Jan 9, 2025 3:19AM

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He will likely go after Almelia/Serina and get utterly humiliated and either renounce everything about his former attitude (since he was being garbage) or he will go down fighting while getting ostracized by everyone and become the new villain, is my guess.

There's many places it could go. I think it depends on how those around him view the situation. He's very vain and prideful--likes his role as a noble, seeks to live up to it but is drastically (and now shown to be dangerously) insecure. That's part of why he wanted to "step up" to have this grand apology to Serina in public. He desperately seeks to fulfill his role as a "good, honorable" noble. That desire could lead him in a few different directions....There's also the chance he's just gone and that's that. Now that I've described him, he reminds me of Anis's brother from MagiRevo. Same type, same noble insecurity.

Honestly I totally wouldn't mind if he just fucked off out of the story at this point, we have another dude to go through still anyway lmao

And yea, he's basically the same without the sympathetic angle of still loving Anis and looking up to her. Though I'd still call that guy garbage too for nearly murdering a girl.

last edited at Jan 8, 2025 4:19PM

Oie_1603841raayvbqe
joined Mar 27, 2018

He didn't pay for shit (yet) unless you count his bruised ego

I hope he does tho :^)

last edited at Jan 8, 2025 4:10PM

Oie_1603841raayvbqe
joined Mar 27, 2018

If anything, if he truly suspects she's the sort of person that would fake an injury to indebt a member of the royal family to her, that's absolutely something he could accept she'd do

That still doesn't make logical sense as a plan compared to just continuing to fake your injuries.

People do these sorts of fake injury scams all the time in real life. They don't go to court and then say "actually it wasn't that bad dw about it lmao"

think it's a universal thing that just everyone with a shred of decency in their body would do

I would say anyone who feels a shred of decency would show some guilt and personally apologize over exploding someones hand off. Or in extenuating circumstances, at least take a remote interest in their condition and have someone relay info to them, instead of telling everyone to fuck off and let them handle it because I'm soooo capable.

But go ahead and wave this all off as an intepretation, I'm gonna call it instead of going in circles for another hour because reading between the lines is too hard. If anything, this is the hallmark of of the media illiterate - "the story didn't explicitly spell it out for us like we're toddlers so its not true."

One of the more interesting parts of the chapter is how our Gal’s preexisting views of both the Prince and the Villainess were flipped. On the page before Amelia's punch: she thought the Prince was just "rough around the edges but nice" because of what she knew from the game, but it turned out she was way off, and that seemed to shock her (another example of the author being straightforward). She felt she "must've misunderstood something."

It's honestly heartbreaking seeing Serina about to blame herself for his anger and violence.

Yeah, definitely wasn't a good situation. Threw flowers in her face, immediately yelled at her, called her a wretch, gave her no chance to explain and all in public. Plus, she was fans of all these "characters," so there's the element of meeting and having expectations of your favorites only to find they're not a good person. She found out in the worst way. Even with that, I'm more concerned about the consequences of Amelia's decision. Serina can pick herself up but we'll see what they try to do after that public rejection. Maybe that punch will have some recalibrating effect.

He will likely go after Almelia/Serina and get utterly humiliated and either renounce everything about his former attitude (since he was being garbage) or he will go down fighting while getting ostracized by everyone and become the new villain, is my guess.

Right now Serina has already won over Sylvester and Estelle as allies among the main cast, so the last one is that 3rd guy I forgot the name of. It's following a similar pattern as the game except Serina is the unsuspecting protagonist.

last edited at Jan 8, 2025 4:13PM

Oie_1603841raayvbqe
joined Mar 27, 2018

One of the more interesting parts of the chapter is how our Gal’s preexisting views of both the Prince and the Villainess were flipped. On the page before Amelia's punch: she thought the Prince was just "rough around the edges but nice" because of what she knew from the game, but it turned out she was way off, and that seemed to shock her (another example of the author being straightforward). She felt she "must've misunderstood something."

It's honestly heartbreaking seeing Serina about to blame herself for his anger and violence.

last edited at Jan 8, 2025 3:46PM

Oie_1603841raayvbqe
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This part here is what I believe I'm taking issue with in your logic, because it hinges on the assumption that the prince truly believes and accepts that Serina was injured and just so happened to perform a medical miracle out of nowhere, in order for it to then make any sense that his outburst was because of being denied the ability to "fix his mistake."

If you really want to approach it with this logic, how does it make any sense whatsoever that Serina would reveal that she wasn't injured at all and that he doesn't need to do anything for her (she literally says this) if she was trying to deceive him for status or money? She would obviously maintain the charade if that was her goal.

Think about the event that forms the entire basis of his character. He is someone who is ultimately middling in talent and continuously gets upstaged by his social inferiors which brings constant frustration to him. My statements line up perfectly with his character. Yours does not and ignores some very crucial circumstantial evidence like the following which I will repeat again:

He did not once talk about Serina's well being. It's why he is shocked by her recovery. You might say that he was busy. Let's have a thought experiment. If you shot someone by accident, would you never bother to check up on their well being even once in over a week because you're "busy"?

If so, then that's rather concerning.

Edit: TBH this is a total waste of time, again, you insist on having an unreasonably charitable interpretation of him that the author is even actively pushing against, there will be no common ground here when we are talking about two different realities. As I said, the events would hardly have played out the way they did if the author was trying to portray him sympathetically. We have a sympathetic male character already and his name is Sylvester, so we obviously know they are capable of doing so if it was their intention.

last edited at Jan 8, 2025 3:43PM

Oie_1603841raayvbqe
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If he was truly the ego-monster you accuse him of being, he wouldn't have acknowledged his mistake, wouldn't have decided to apologize when he really isn't under any real pressure to do so and he most certainly would not have "lowered" himself to work on the amends personally rather than have his serving staff just whip something up for him like literally any other noble would have.

You say this because you fundamentally misunderstand his character - he could just rely on his lackeys or status yes. That is what some nobles do. But he does not want to look like someone such as Laktasha, (the girl.who hates Almelia) who certainly would try to pay the problem off - he wants to be someone who can, again, in his words, clean up his own mistakes with his own ability.

I will add that that in itself is not bad! The bad part is that the source of this sentiment is his ego, not his compassion. This is why at no point does he show any concern in hurting Serina, he talks about wanting to fix and clean up his own mistake. It is also why he explodes at her once she's no longer injured, she robbed him of the chance to take responsibility and fix things like a proper king should. That is the fundamental reason he got angry at Serina - he is frustrated that once again he is made to look like a fool in over his head that others have to manage.

Ultimately his thoughts are centered solely around himself and not the person he mortally wounded. Ergo, he is a shithead.

If you need an analog for his type of character, look no further than Jimmy in Mouthwashing. Another person who desperately wants to prove they can take responsibility and handle problems like a "man" should. Any help they provide is in service of their own egos and nothing more.

last edited at Jan 8, 2025 3:26PM

Oie_1603841raayvbqe
joined Mar 27, 2018

Ah yes, the classic "I don't have any proper argument so I'll just say you're wrong and pretend that arguing is beneath me." method! The hallmark of people stuck in their ways and refusing to even consider the notion of anything else.

No, I'm just not gonna put the cart before the horse and argue about his actions afterwards if we can't even agree on the basic premise of the incident. What's the point? Your entire defense is predicated on him being scared for his life. But he wasn't, as the author has made clear repeatedly. I have quoted the manga and provided images to prove my point and you have whined about misandry that doesn't exist when nobody gave Lord Sil shit for being hostile to Almelia in earlier chapters.

You'd think people would be ripping Sylvester to shreds if we were all frothing at the mouth misandrists. Could it be... perhaps, you are mistaken in your ad hom attacks???? No, it is everyone else who is wrong!

You think it somehow shows him as being condescending. (Somehow??)

I missed this cause you don't know how to quote properly, but it might just be because the author had a character who they are obviously trying to portray sympathetically, Almelia (you know it's kinda the premise of the entire story) criticize and slap him for his actions in the past two chapters. Perhaps the author is trying to say the Prince is a bad person. Nah, impossible.

last edited at Jan 8, 2025 3:30PM

Oie_1603841raayvbqe
joined Mar 27, 2018

I didn't say he was in a life-or-death situation, I said he had a life-or-death panic, which is not the same thing.
He saw a giant monster show up out of nowhere right in front of him and had a perfectly normal fight-response to a perceived threat against his person and the people around him.

I don't see any point in addressing anything else you wrote when you cannot accept the very basic facts of what occurred.

No, he didn't have a life or death panic, he literally flashed back to when he was humiliated, which by the way, was not a life or death situation. As in, he was remembering the time he looked incompetent next to Almelia. Do you just literally not look at the pictures the author drew? Like I don't understand how you can miss this literal fact. By definition if he wasn't panicking about something that is unrelated to life and death, he is not having a life or death panic.

Like come on he literally was thinking about Almelia killing that cockatrice right there lmao, you can literally see hee in the panel right there in case you missed it, I know it's apparently very subtle. Why would he be thinking about that time she made him feel like he has a smol pp if it wasn't about his ego? Like seriously the author went and made it expressedly clear that he had no reason to react the way he did and you're still trying to do mental gymnastics to make excuses about how he's just a scawed poor widdle boy.

That honestly goes for the rest of the nonsense you wrote anyway. Do you think the author had Almelia point out that he didn't care to check up on the person he mortally injured for 10 days for fun? That his offhand comment "let me handle it i can handle it myself" to the steward was just a throwaway comment? Or perhaps the author is trying to indicate something!!!!

Ffs media literacy is dead.

last edited at Jan 8, 2025 3:01PM

Oie_1603841raayvbqe
joined Mar 27, 2018

Seriously, how do people say things this crazy and not hear it themselves?

Pot, meet kettle.

Also misandry isn't real :^)

Minalinsky
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I understand that in real life, what the teacher did was rape, but if we use that reasoning, all teacher x student on the site would have to add the rape tag, so I guess it's only used when the act is “explicitly” non consensual

I'm pretty sure the tag there is for the guy on the street that attacked her, not the teacher.

No, someone in the comments wanted there to be a stronger tag and not just a "foiled attempt tag," and they meant it for the teacher. I'm pretty sure that's what started the discussion.

Oh fair enough. Well, I have to agree with the other poster. The teacher relationship was statutory rape but it was "consensual" in the sense that both parties agreed to it. There are way too many teacher x student stories with similar conditions that would have to be tagged as rape in that case.

Oie_1603841raayvbqe
joined Mar 27, 2018

The prince attacked a monster in a moment of life-and-death panic and someone got hurt by accident, a perfectly human reaction

As I already discussed and was emphasized by the maid this chapter, no he was not in a life or death situation, his guards had it under control, not to mention Almelia. You do not start thinking about your wounded pride like he did if you are about to die, you think about your impending death. His disproportionate response was all about proving himself strong and capable.

, and then he went out of his way to apologize and try to make up for what he caused.

Not out of a sense of guilt or compassion. Because in his words, he is capable of "clearing up the mistakes he caused." Since he was surprised by the regrowth, he evidently not once bothered to actually have someone tell him about Serina's condition and how she's doing given that she had her arm obliterated by him.

You'd think her mental and physical condition would be on his mind, but it wasn't. (probably because he didnt give a fuck, but what do I know.) So once again, it's about his ego - which was why he wanted the steward to not get involved or assist him, so he can prove himself strong and capable.

He only got angry with Serina because he assumed the injury must have been staged or something as a ploy to get the royal family indebted to her since no one can regrow limbs, he made a perfectly logical deduction that simply happens to be wrong in this particular case.

So instead of being happy that nobody got maimed, he assumed he was fooled by, in your words, a ploy. Which in his own words "makes a fool out of [him]," indicating that his rage is the direct result of looking neither strong nor capable.

Jesus, some people here are so quick to cry "garbage" at male characters just for being male and making mistakes.

He is garbage. And you are making excuses for him when it is literally all about his ego to prove himself strong and capable. Is it a human response? Oh yes, I've met many people like him in the past. They're the type of scumbags that bludgeon their wife to death with a golf trophy over their feelings.

Misandry

lol

last edited at Jan 8, 2025 12:59PM

Minalinsky
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I understand that in real life, what the teacher did was rape, but if we use that reasoning, all teacher x student on the site would have to add the rape tag, so I guess it's only used when the act is “explicitly” non consensual

I'm pretty sure the tag there is for the guy on the street that attacked her, not the teacher.

Minalinsky
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garbage pitty story, didn’t make me sympathize with her for choosing to spread her legs to an ADULT TEACHER ! while underage, WITH A WIFE! LOL

Gross.

You, I mean. Not her.

Oie_1603841raayvbqe
joined Mar 27, 2018

As said before, I'm not saying he isn't responsible for the consequences of his actions, only that calling him "garbage" may be going too far in this situation.

If someone, out of a misplaced sense of ego, pulled out a gun in a public area and shot at a criminal in a non-life threatening situation that's already under control by other parties to prove his masculinity, and in the process hit a bystander, what would you call that person then?

Since his life was directly threatened by the monster and only the tail was under control, this really doesn't apply here, though. Perfectly normal reaction, especially for someone who has been training to fight such beasts for most of his life, even if he may have gone overboard with the amount of power used, but that is not something easily judged in such a situation even without his personal issues coming into play. I really don't like having to defend a character who so far has been shown less likeability than the fiancé from Run Away With Me, Girl, but I stand by my opinion that "garbage" is going too far.

I maintain that his life was absolutely not being threatened on the basis of two points:

  1. His guards explicitly told him to evacuate, and even if he didn't trust their competency or judgment in the situation, he knew Almelia was nearby and more than capable of handling a cockatrice on her own. If the situation was as dire as you are trying to portray it as, why did nobody else seem to be attacking recklessly the way he was?

  2. His moment of panic that led to the incident was preceded by him flashing back to being humiliated by Almelia, a situation that likewise also not life threatening at the time. Would he really be thinking about the time his ego was wounded if he was afraid of imminent death?

In other words, I think it is safe to assert that he was not scared for his life, he was scared of looking incompetent again, and nearly killed someone because of it - it was only the quick thinking and bravery of another party that it "only" resulted in an ostensibly life threatening injury.

last edited at Dec 30, 2024 11:36AM

Oie_1603841raayvbqe
joined Mar 27, 2018

eh, i wouldn't want to date some rando, no matter how attractive. if you're willing to date just about anyone you think is vaguely cute, then you have your own issues to work out before being in a relationship at all :P obviously this is fiction though so that hardly matters

Speak for yourself, I've been married to my wife longer than some posters here have probably been alive and I would totally date some rando cute girl if I was single.