I swear to god if this gets canned I will can entire the world.

Yeah, that felt like kind of a mess lmao
A whole bunch of flashbacks in quick succession to set up what this whole plan even is, and then another "actually it's all fine!" flashback to resolve the catastrope immediately... I haven't read the novels, but I hope this is just an adaptation issue. Like "oops, we didn't adapt ANY of that stuff and we don't have room to linger, oh well quick cram everything in at the last possible minute"

It's not a matter of they forgot to adapt something, actually everything after the fight with Lily's alter ego (and a lot of stuff before it too, like Arla getting backstabbed) basically didn't exist. Rei gets sad after the rejection, Manaria gives her a pep talk, and then she goes to the trial, and that's it.

So I think it's more of a result of them trying to add more (because the original was, as I said, maybe over a bit too quickly) and it becoming a bit messy is probably the result of making shit up as they go.

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inori-sensei's fixation on incest is the result of her rare condition known as "being heckin based"

reading this sentence put me in a coma

Damn, if only I could control this power.

inori-sensei's fixation on incest is the result of her rare condition known as "being heckin based"

as for the manga's pacing I'm pretty sure they wanted to make the final arc more climactic, it was kinda over really fast in the novels and Arla also didn't really amount to anything. She just kinda went >:( and tried to execute Claire and then went "ok fine I won't." I'm glad they decided to bring her back now so her role will be expanded instead of what I thought they were doing earlier (killing her off to get her out of the way).

I think the point was to put Salas even more front and center as the primary antagonist because he's been an even bigger asshole in the manga.

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This hits different reading this right after the latest Days of Yore.

Mieru is a good girl.

they're so fucking cute together there's no way this doesn't end with them together right? RIGHT?

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Damn, Kodama knocks it out of the park again. Truly the GOAT.

If Riko is wrong then I don't wanna be right

Don't even compare Noriko to Yurika in Days of Yore
the title of this manga is "Catch Me and Don't Let Go." Yurika fucked up the the "Don't Let Go" part. Doing only half of your work is a failing grade.

lol you don’t even know why I said that but inmediately jumped a conclusion, i said that because of the note of the author not for any character in yore. i didn’t fail anything, you jumped to conclusions on your own xd

ok honestly I just read them back to back and wanted to post that joke
Also the joke is that the one who failed is Yurika

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Don't even compare Noriko to Yurika in Days of Yore
the title of this manga is "Catch Me and Don't Let Go." Yurika fucked up the the "Don't Let Go" part. Doing only half of your work is a failing grade.

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There is unironically nothing morally objectionable about Noriko's actions and anyone who criticizes her is disgusting

"Why didn't Tsubaki do anything about it?" What is a high-schooler supposed to do about someone's abusive marriage? Don't say cops

violence solves everything

Including or excluding suspected marital infidelity?

it goes without saying that the application of violence should exclusively be the right of cute psychotic maid women towards shitty abusive husbands

Completely insane thread

"How did she get locked up with nobody noticing?" Abusers often cut people off from their loved ones or target people who have no loved ones.

"Why did she just casually reveal that she got locked up?" She was at her wit's end and has no one to turn to except a 16-year-old who she only knows as a waitress.

"Why didn't Tsubaki react very strongly?" She had already assumed the husband was abusive ever since she saw Yuki show up to a café alone on her birthday. This was not a surprise in her mind. She is written to be a bit of a wacko, which is most of the driving force of the story.

"Why didn't Tsubaki do anything about it?" What is a high-schooler supposed to do about someone's abusive marriage? Don't say cops

"Why didn't she just leave?" Do you like... know what abuse is?

"This was cool but why did she have to be leading a bad life?" Do you know what a story is?

"How is this a bad ending?" A lot can happen in two years. Aren't you afraid for her...?

"She should have killed Yuki" What?

I agree with what you're saying in regards to the abuse - like I said, cartoonishly evil abuse like this is (sadly) realistic, but like

"Why didn't Tsubaki do anything about it?" What is a high-schooler supposed to do about someone's abusive marriage? Don't say cops

violence solves everything

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I can agree that the ending was really wtf with how they brushed it off. I really was thinking the maid was going to do some murder by the end.

The 'locked away for months' bit feels extreme and out of place. Avoiding the coffee shop because she was sorting out her feelings would be more grounded.

Ah,if only you knew what some people can do...those things do happen.

They do happen, but in fictional stories they can be silly depending on how they are presented. Being hit by a track is very common but it’s now a meme for isekai. I do agree that it feels extreme, she feeling shame because the 16yo she has the hots for saw her with her family would have been better. “A hit of reality” that made her ashamed.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but I always find it funny how depicting the accurate behavior of shitty men would be considered a caricature in fiction. Like, I write as a hobby, and sometimes I think about literally just writing in my/my wife/my friends' run ins with horrible men but then I think "nah, I need to give them some kind of complex motivation and backstory or people will think its too exaggerated."

Says a lot about society, I think.

The thing it says is the maid should stab the husband repeatedly by the way.

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Feels like its been a bit since we've seen Luliam and Nana be cute and gay together god they're so cute uugghhhhh

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I also find the idea that the yuri genre as a whole is overindulgent in things like physical lesbian intimacy, unequal power dynamics... Not very consistent with my observations.

Yuri is already a small niche compared to BL, positively tiny compared to straight romance, so I think it's unfair to scold the yuri genre for indulging its audience's thirst as much as its competitors do theirs (though in my observation yuri is actually less indulgent). But relationships characterized by a rigid hierarchy are not even close to the norm in yuri. (My bias is that I do like problematic relationships and power dynamics in lesbian fiction, but these are also not the norm.)

Himejoshis when they don't know literal rape dressed up as romance is a regular thing in BL (and het romances.) There's a reason fujos often accuse yuri of being "boring." Your observations line up with mine as well. If we're talking rigid hierarchies, people ought to remember that omegaverse was born in BL and observe how it is the least prevalent in GL. This is just speaking from my perspective as an ex-fujo but that indulgence is exactly why I fell out of love with BL. GL takes top-bottom dynamics far less seriously as something to be strictly adhered to than BL. I'd go on about the inherent misogyny in the way those dynamics are portrayed in BL but that's well out of the scope of this discussion.

As for the chapter, I really want the best for Aoyama. My heart sank the more and more she realized she was just being used for sex and discarded. This is the bad kind of toxic. Mizuki and Sayori had it right. People should cut each other up and then make out, not make out and then cut each other off.

Great chapter. This really is one of the best ongoing series right now.

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Stuff like this really drives home the idea that the opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference.
Even as Aoyama's love twisted into hate it's obvious she still holds strong feelings in her heart for Yurika.
Meanwhile Yurika discarded her without a whit of concern, ostensibly with no difficulty whatsoever on her part.

Before I type out my initial reply, is there a reason why it's tagged het?

Takeru and his wife, and An's father and Shiori

Trust me, I gave the tag combo a Doakes stare initially, but I get why this chapter is tagged that way.

I was waffling between whether Akane was MTF or FTM because of the tag myself lmao

Look, I'm not going to be mad if this ends in a timeskip before they start making out, but it would be so much more based if they started making out before that.

I don't think it's fair to say that Sayori considered their relationship to be pretend or expected it to end at graduation. Her desire to go to another university wasn't because she was trying to cut Mizuki off. I don't think that's why Mizuki snapped either - after all, Sayori still did end up going to a different university and Mizuki seems perfectly happy and completely uncovered by it.

I think what truly made Mizuki snap was the fact that Sayori, for the briefest moment, looked down on Mizuki just like everyone else in her life. The distortion in their relationship is that Sayori didn't really know the person she fell in love with. The way Sayori described Mizuki casts her as an innocent waif, existing as a delicate work of art that nobody else seems to be able to appreciate. But that descriptor implies Mizuki to be innocently and passively receiving the scorn of others without a single thought of reprisal. She didn't know that under Mizuki's sweet exterior is a flame that burns with resentment, and for a moment, that ember melted away her sugary shell to reveal Mizuki's rotting wound underneath, festering with the contempt everyone held for her

She had never received that contempt passively in the first place - it was always simmering beneath the surface. And going back to what I said earlier, the fact that Sayori, at that moment, also looked down on Mizuki - the "expression" of uneasy pity she had on her face when she explained why she wanted to go another college, was the spark that ignited the fire.

This has little to do with whether or not Sayori considered their relationship to be on some level a temporary, fake; or pretend one. If anything, her wishing to go to another university to better her future prospects could be seen as planning for a future with Sayori by sacrificing the fleeting and capricious desire to live together in the present, which is why thematically speaking she still does exactly just that in the end. Because the scars they carved into each other assures Mizuki that Dayori is the same as her.

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they are not objectively the same when one caused physical pain and the other didn't

like, that goes against the very idea of something "objectively" being the same

i am very smart

I didn’t say both are the same, I said both are objectively bad on the same level. One physical the other sexual. We differ on the balance of which one we consider a greater offender than the other. I personally don’t think one is worse than the other (in this specific case) and you on the other hand think one is worse than the other, that is ok, no need to be sarcastic. I don't care enough about this tbh, and don’t want to drag it either. I will leave it at that.

I think you need to look up what the word "objectively" means. But I get your point, and that's fine. I wasn't trying to say people had to agree with me. Not to point fingers, but it was other people that kept interrogating why I hated his ass and telling me or someone else to have a son or whatever, idk what that was all about.

I already have a son and his name is Mio from "I'll Cheer On My Yuri Onee-chan."

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they are not objectively the same when one caused physical pain and the other didn't

like, that goes against the very idea of something "objectively" being the same

i am very smart

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What I hate most about this argument is that in the process to explain why the girl's actions are “different” from the boy's, people turn the fetish/kink into something boring, into nothing despite being the appeal of the story.
Yarai forced herself on Ritsu, that’s why it’s hot lol

This same discussion happens every time there is agep-gap teacher x student het vs age-gap teacher x student yuri, accepting that you like one because is yuri and hate the other because is het is much more honest and cooler than repeating this discussion forever.

Look, if you check my comment history, you'll see I have absolutely no problem with women carving each other up and oneeloli and I recognize it's totally "muh toxic" or "muh problematic" and whatever because toxicity and mental illness is hot. Moreover, I'm perfectly happy acknowledging moments where I apply a double standard. But this isn't one of them.

It's not the forced kiss/attempt at the forced kiss that bothered me here and tbh, I wouldn't even bother explaining myself and just shitpost like I did originally about hoping he'd be a victim, if people didn't start throwing imaginary concepts like misandry around because of that, so I feel compelled to explain myself because apparently people only read the last two words when I said "dragging her forcefully somewhere to kiss her."

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I need adachi mom x shimamura mom