they're so fucking cute together there's no way this doesn't end with them together right? RIGHT?

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Damn, Kodama knocks it out of the park again. Truly the GOAT.

If Riko is wrong then I don't wanna be right

Don't even compare Noriko to Yurika in Days of Yore
the title of this manga is "Catch Me and Don't Let Go." Yurika fucked up the the "Don't Let Go" part. Doing only half of your work is a failing grade.

lol you don’t even know why I said that but inmediately jumped a conclusion, i said that because of the note of the author not for any character in yore. i didn’t fail anything, you jumped to conclusions on your own xd

ok honestly I just read them back to back and wanted to post that joke
Also the joke is that the one who failed is Yurika

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Don't even compare Noriko to Yurika in Days of Yore
the title of this manga is "Catch Me and Don't Let Go." Yurika fucked up the the "Don't Let Go" part. Doing only half of your work is a failing grade.

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There is unironically nothing morally objectionable about Noriko's actions and anyone who criticizes her is disgusting

"Why didn't Tsubaki do anything about it?" What is a high-schooler supposed to do about someone's abusive marriage? Don't say cops

violence solves everything

Including or excluding suspected marital infidelity?

it goes without saying that the application of violence should exclusively be the right of cute psychotic maid women towards shitty abusive husbands

Completely insane thread

"How did she get locked up with nobody noticing?" Abusers often cut people off from their loved ones or target people who have no loved ones.

"Why did she just casually reveal that she got locked up?" She was at her wit's end and has no one to turn to except a 16-year-old who she only knows as a waitress.

"Why didn't Tsubaki react very strongly?" She had already assumed the husband was abusive ever since she saw Yuki show up to a café alone on her birthday. This was not a surprise in her mind. She is written to be a bit of a wacko, which is most of the driving force of the story.

"Why didn't Tsubaki do anything about it?" What is a high-schooler supposed to do about someone's abusive marriage? Don't say cops

"Why didn't she just leave?" Do you like... know what abuse is?

"This was cool but why did she have to be leading a bad life?" Do you know what a story is?

"How is this a bad ending?" A lot can happen in two years. Aren't you afraid for her...?

"She should have killed Yuki" What?

I agree with what you're saying in regards to the abuse - like I said, cartoonishly evil abuse like this is (sadly) realistic, but like

"Why didn't Tsubaki do anything about it?" What is a high-schooler supposed to do about someone's abusive marriage? Don't say cops

violence solves everything

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I can agree that the ending was really wtf with how they brushed it off. I really was thinking the maid was going to do some murder by the end.

The 'locked away for months' bit feels extreme and out of place. Avoiding the coffee shop because she was sorting out her feelings would be more grounded.

Ah,if only you knew what some people can do...those things do happen.

They do happen, but in fictional stories they can be silly depending on how they are presented. Being hit by a track is very common but it’s now a meme for isekai. I do agree that it feels extreme, she feeling shame because the 16yo she has the hots for saw her with her family would have been better. “A hit of reality” that made her ashamed.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but I always find it funny how depicting the accurate behavior of shitty men would be considered a caricature in fiction. Like, I write as a hobby, and sometimes I think about literally just writing in my/my wife/my friends' run ins with horrible men but then I think "nah, I need to give them some kind of complex motivation and backstory or people will think its too exaggerated."

Says a lot about society, I think.

The thing it says is the maid should stab the husband repeatedly by the way.

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Feels like its been a bit since we've seen Luliam and Nana be cute and gay together god they're so cute uugghhhhh

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I also find the idea that the yuri genre as a whole is overindulgent in things like physical lesbian intimacy, unequal power dynamics... Not very consistent with my observations.

Yuri is already a small niche compared to BL, positively tiny compared to straight romance, so I think it's unfair to scold the yuri genre for indulging its audience's thirst as much as its competitors do theirs (though in my observation yuri is actually less indulgent). But relationships characterized by a rigid hierarchy are not even close to the norm in yuri. (My bias is that I do like problematic relationships and power dynamics in lesbian fiction, but these are also not the norm.)

Himejoshis when they don't know literal rape dressed up as romance is a regular thing in BL (and het romances.) There's a reason fujos often accuse yuri of being "boring." Your observations line up with mine as well. If we're talking rigid hierarchies, people ought to remember that omegaverse was born in BL and observe how it is the least prevalent in GL. This is just speaking from my perspective as an ex-fujo but that indulgence is exactly why I fell out of love with BL. GL takes top-bottom dynamics far less seriously as something to be strictly adhered to than BL. I'd go on about the inherent misogyny in the way those dynamics are portrayed in BL but that's well out of the scope of this discussion.

As for the chapter, I really want the best for Aoyama. My heart sank the more and more she realized she was just being used for sex and discarded. This is the bad kind of toxic. Mizuki and Sayori had it right. People should cut each other up and then make out, not make out and then cut each other off.

Great chapter. This really is one of the best ongoing series right now.

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Stuff like this really drives home the idea that the opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference.
Even as Aoyama's love twisted into hate it's obvious she still holds strong feelings in her heart for Yurika.
Meanwhile Yurika discarded her without a whit of concern, ostensibly with no difficulty whatsoever on her part.

Before I type out my initial reply, is there a reason why it's tagged het?

Takeru and his wife, and An's father and Shiori

Trust me, I gave the tag combo a Doakes stare initially, but I get why this chapter is tagged that way.

I was waffling between whether Akane was MTF or FTM because of the tag myself lmao

Look, I'm not going to be mad if this ends in a timeskip before they start making out, but it would be so much more based if they started making out before that.

I don't think it's fair to say that Sayori considered their relationship to be pretend or expected it to end at graduation. Her desire to go to another university wasn't because she was trying to cut Mizuki off. I don't think that's why Mizuki snapped either - after all, Sayori still did end up going to a different university and Mizuki seems perfectly happy and completely uncovered by it.

I think what truly made Mizuki snap was the fact that Sayori, for the briefest moment, looked down on Mizuki just like everyone else in her life. The distortion in their relationship is that Sayori didn't really know the person she fell in love with. The way Sayori described Mizuki casts her as an innocent waif, existing as a delicate work of art that nobody else seems to be able to appreciate. But that descriptor implies Mizuki to be innocently and passively receiving the scorn of others without a single thought of reprisal. She didn't know that under Mizuki's sweet exterior is a flame that burns with resentment, and for a moment, that ember melted away her sugary shell to reveal Mizuki's rotting wound underneath, festering with the contempt everyone held for her

She had never received that contempt passively in the first place - it was always simmering beneath the surface. And going back to what I said earlier, the fact that Sayori, at that moment, also looked down on Mizuki - the "expression" of uneasy pity she had on her face when she explained why she wanted to go another college, was the spark that ignited the fire.

This has little to do with whether or not Sayori considered their relationship to be on some level a temporary, fake; or pretend one. If anything, her wishing to go to another university to better her future prospects could be seen as planning for a future with Sayori by sacrificing the fleeting and capricious desire to live together in the present, which is why thematically speaking she still does exactly just that in the end. Because the scars they carved into each other assures Mizuki that Dayori is the same as her.

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they are not objectively the same when one caused physical pain and the other didn't

like, that goes against the very idea of something "objectively" being the same

i am very smart

I didn’t say both are the same, I said both are objectively bad on the same level. One physical the other sexual. We differ on the balance of which one we consider a greater offender than the other. I personally don’t think one is worse than the other (in this specific case) and you on the other hand think one is worse than the other, that is ok, no need to be sarcastic. I don't care enough about this tbh, and don’t want to drag it either. I will leave it at that.

I think you need to look up what the word "objectively" means. But I get your point, and that's fine. I wasn't trying to say people had to agree with me. Not to point fingers, but it was other people that kept interrogating why I hated his ass and telling me or someone else to have a son or whatever, idk what that was all about.

I already have a son and his name is Mio from "I'll Cheer On My Yuri Onee-chan."

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they are not objectively the same when one caused physical pain and the other didn't

like, that goes against the very idea of something "objectively" being the same

i am very smart

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What I hate most about this argument is that in the process to explain why the girl's actions are “different” from the boy's, people turn the fetish/kink into something boring, into nothing despite being the appeal of the story.
Yarai forced herself on Ritsu, that’s why it’s hot lol

This same discussion happens every time there is agep-gap teacher x student het vs age-gap teacher x student yuri, accepting that you like one because is yuri and hate the other because is het is much more honest and cooler than repeating this discussion forever.

Look, if you check my comment history, you'll see I have absolutely no problem with women carving each other up and oneeloli and I recognize it's totally "muh toxic" or "muh problematic" and whatever because toxicity and mental illness is hot. Moreover, I'm perfectly happy acknowledging moments where I apply a double standard. But this isn't one of them.

It's not the forced kiss/attempt at the forced kiss that bothered me here and tbh, I wouldn't even bother explaining myself and just shitpost like I did originally about hoping he'd be a victim, if people didn't start throwing imaginary concepts like misandry around because of that, so I feel compelled to explain myself because apparently people only read the last two words when I said "dragging her forcefully somewhere to kiss her."

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I need adachi mom x shimamura mom

if you call that assault then Yarai sure also did that.. multiple times. whats your point? misandry? hope you'll have a son

Yarai never dragged Ritsu around by the wrist where she explicitly tells her it hurts but she just doesn't gaf or apologize because she needs that kiss. That's because Yarai is cool and based.

Even on the first page I'm explicitly clear that the forceful dragging to get the kiss was what bothered me, not just him trying to kiss her. If all he did was lean in and say "hey can we kiss" to Ritsu and going for it without a verbal answer, then sure that's being awkward, except that's not what happened. Sorry, but guys even inadvertently using force to dictate a scenario hits a little too close to reality for me even if this story is supposed to be lighthearted.

I'm totally ok with being a misandrist mean bitch though if that counts as being a misandrist mean bitch. If I have a son I hope he doesn't grab women and start pulling them somewhere without an explanation of where he's taking them. I'll disown his fucking ass I stg.

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Seems mean to say about a chill guy.

I talked shit about him from the first page of the comments so at least I'm a consistent mean bitch if nothing else

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If this kid doesn’t have a secret gf or something he’s just a poor victim of his cheating girlfriend and I dont think the author would wanna cast the main character in such a unfavorable light lol

I hope he's a victim because fuck him anyway

On the Meguru and Azuki bit, I agree completely with it. These things they had been fighting and confronting can change overnight in real life, as I have gone through several of these fucking things by having actually dated horrible and good people.

People are complicated and I can see a good ending happening for those two, I see that even though we ended up with a "Oh no, the couple presented at the beginning aren't together by the end" we were never gonna get that because well, they weren't a couple. Remu is simply not into human beings. Would I have liked a longer bit with Meguru and Azuki understanding each other and so on? Yeah I would, but Meguru was never just a plainly horrible person and Azuki has an ally to her to overcome the baggage, she's not alone. Meguru and Azuki's arcs are fine, Meguru and her sister (Remu) are fine.

WHAT ISN'T FINE IS WE GOT NO RESOLUTION AT ALL WITH NIJI. Niji just felt like this horrible selfish character that gets one crying scene at the end and Remu saying "Can we become friends again?" And the answer is "fuck if I know" and that's it. I'm sorry to say but the weak link of this story is not Meguru and Azuki getting together, your views are narrow, it's Niji. Niji is the weakest link, she's not a person, she's a plot point, her disgusting side appears and is sincerely not nearly as sympathetic as anyone else's and she doesn't confront it, she looks her friend in the eye and say "You aren't real." And leave and cry. That's her character, that's her. Out of everyone, she's the truly disgusting one.

I focused on Meguru and Azuki because there's at least a conclusion to their story. I'm not even going to comment on Niji because as far as I'm concerned it's just a completely dropped plotline, victim to the axe. There's no resolution so there's nothing to say about it besides a shrug because it literally went nowhere in the end, as you said.

For what it's worth, in all seriousness though, Meguru was probably my favorite character so I don't mind a Meguru end at all. I just think it was too clean to feel like a real resolution.

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Late to the party, but this one hit me right in the heart and left me in tears. Sorry about the incoming blogpost for anyone reading this.

I lived in a car with my wife for a while in my life when I was pretty much running away from my responsibilities in college. We couldn't really afford food or gas so we couldn't go anywhere and just ate a single cup ramen every day and snacked on free sugar packets from Starbucks. At night, we'd just lay in her car, just talking to each other about things or playing dumb games like 20 questions until we fell asleep, and wake up to find my feet in a puddle water because her car was a piece of garbage that was only barely hanging together by a thread.

I think back about those times and how happy I was despite objectively having almost nothing besides each other. "An empty stomach, scraps of food, an empty purse, and the fill of her heat," I guess. And just like them, eventually I had to face reality and go back to college, but graduated without a job, stressing over feeling worthless, until eventually found myself at a job (in Japan, no less) that also ruined me further mentally, while my wife constantly asked her self what would make things easier on me so I can just smile again, while we both agonized about how our personal failures were making the other person suffer. She really is the Hii-chan to my Haru, I guess.

I don't even really know what I'm getting at but I loved this manga, honestly. I don't think the ending is hopeless. I'm living through it right now, really, and I have hope, I guess. Society is fucking awful and soul rending, and a world that won't recognize just how beautiful their relationship is a twisted world, yeah, but I don't think the message of the story is just to submit and accept your fate. I mean, certainly, the truth is there isn't really much they can do to change it, and running away and living on the fringes of society is just a fantasy for most people that were that were raised by that very society. But the fact that they have each other, is enough. It's enough to be happy, even if everything else fucking sucks. Even if nobody will recognize them, or us. That's my takeaway, at least.

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