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joined Aug 29, 2019

You're gynesexual. I think lot of people find it more natural to describe the body shapes and other features as to what they are attracted to.

https://lgbta.wikia.org/wiki/Gynesexual

Am I, though? Gynesexual (arguably) specifies female anatomy, which usually refers to genitalia. That's precisely not the case, so the related "finsexual" would be the better label. I doubt that enough people are familiar with the term and I don't feel the need to force the label, so I'd refrain from using it in general discourse anyway. I mean think about it: at least for our current generation (being millennial), these labels feel like an afterthought (i.e. coined during our lifetime to classify something that didn't need classification before). It'll probably be different for future generations, but right now I'm more likely to alienate people by using freshly coined (some would say made-up) terminology that most people won't understand. It's jargon from the lgbt+ community that hasn't (yet?) permeated society at large.

Also consider this: strictly speaking I'm still (potentially) bisexual, as in a person's sex not being an excluding factor. That I'm only attracted to feminine-gender-coded behaviours and (granted, largely female-sex-coded) shapes doesn't change that. It's just additional information, and it refers specifically to aspects that are more considered gender, not so much sex as in reproductive facilities and X/Y manifestation. In terms of taxonomy it would be a different category that can coexist. It's basically "bi with extra steps".

And anyway, I don't "identify as finsexual", but rather "finsexual describes my preferences/lived reality pretty well" or maybe "I'm finsexual". Saying "I identify as" falsely implies to me a great degree of conscious choice, that I adopted the identity rather than adopting the label that describes my identity. I think that implication/perception might be a big factor in the aversion towards the plethora of labels that we often see.

Referring back to the Manga I'd say that Ookuma being "Kanda-sexual" is certainly not false, as she most definitely is attracted to Kanda, regardless of questions of gender and sex. Are there potentially other women that she might be attracted to? Sure, and it's likely that there are other men as well. It doesn't seem like she's given it much thought, and it'd be kanda cool (see what I did there?) if they explored that avenue a little more, but you can't have everything. I doubt she'll be shocked when she "realizes" that she's " kanda bi" (I did it again!), as she is in a happy and apparently healthy relationship after all. Heck, she doesn't even know what guys look like down below (as unrealistic as that might be), so for all intents and purposes she might be grossed out by male genitalia and actually be a minsexual lesbian.

Down the rabbit-hole we go!

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joined Jul 29, 2017

Down the rabbit-hole we go!

What's the term for those who are only sexually/romantically attracted to people while down rabbit holes?

Surely there must be one . . .

joined Aug 29, 2019

Down the rabbit-hole we go!

What's the term for those who are only sexually/romantically attracted to people while down rabbit holes?

Surely there must be one . . .

Considering how many of the terms on the LGBTA-Wiki are less than two months old (as in "coined in June 2020") we might just go ahead and coin one. Lepocavinsexual? Could also be sexual attraction towards rabbit holes. Does kinda sound wrong.

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joined Nov 17, 2019

Down the rabbit-hole we go!

What's the term for those who are only sexually/romantically attracted to people while down rabbit holes?

Surely there must be one . . .

Considering how many of the terms on the LGBTA-Wiki are less than two months old (as in "coined in June 2020") we might just go ahead and coin one. Lepocavinsexual? Could also be sexual attraction towards rabbit holes. Does kinda sound wrong.

I skiped to the last page to see a discussion about the latest ch release, but this is what I found.

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joined Dec 9, 2014

I don't think you need a lot of labels to describe a sexuality. The four most used are accurate enough imo. If you are only attracted to feminine guys (as a guy), that's still bisexual because they're still guys. If you are only attracted to feminine guys as a female, that's still straight.
I mean, if someone is straight but is only attracted to a specific body type, do they need a new label for that? Like thick bodies, would that be thicksexual? Sexuality labels are used for describing the sex/gender preference specifically, not the individual characteristics of the category.

I find the Kandasexual wording more on the comedy side rather than legitimately explaining her sexuality. The whole "genitals don't matter" sounds like pansexual, although I guess she could still be gay without realizing it because she's too dense.

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joined Dec 27, 2014

Oh shet she actually tells her, now i gotta read up, thought this secret was gonna go on for dozens of chapters but hell yeah now i'm in again

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joined Sep 7, 2016

Bahahah let me be kanda pls

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joined Oct 9, 2019

"So kenda kun was homosexual?"
"Yeah."
"wait I thought she was japanese"

joined Aug 29, 2019

I find the Kandasexual wording more on the comedy side rather than legitimately explaining her sexuality. The whole "genitals don't matter" sounds like pansexual, although I guess she could still be gay without realizing it because she's too dense.

Oh yeah, it's definitely tongue-in-cheek comedy, but I guess it could also mean that she'd previously not given much thought to the idea that she could also get with girls. It just never occurred to her, which fits with her theme of being a coddled, incredibly sheltered airhead.

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I find the Kandasexual wording more on the comedy side rather than legitimately explaining her sexuality. The whole "genitals don't matter" sounds like pansexual, although I guess she could still be gay without realizing it because she's too dense.

Oh yeah, it's definitely tongue-in-cheek comedy, but I guess it could also mean that she'd previously not given much thought to the idea that she could also get with girls. It just never occurred to her, which fits with her theme of being a coddled, incredibly sheltered airhead.

Right--if the rap against "single-target sexuality" is that it avoids ratifying gayness (or anything else), I don't think Ookuma is avoiding much of anything--she's just embracing Kanda, whoever that turns out to be, pretty wholeheartedly.

Her lack of angst about discovering Kanda's gender doesn't seem to be about the author sidestepping the real-life difficulties of being gay in Japan, just making comedy about Ookuma's oblivious acceptance of her feelings and of Kanda's.

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joined Feb 23, 2016

Oh my a girl getting a girl harem :0

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joined Jan 5, 2015

The character you'd least want to be - Secchan's boyfriend. At this point, I hope he's cheating on her.

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joined Oct 15, 2016

Ooh this got so good in just a few chapters. One thing i'm dreading though is that it feels like the end is near. I mean, we already got the first kiss and the first night together and even the first bath together. We just need the first fight, the first reconciliation and the first trip together and we're out of first' to extend this story.

Rx_5_50
joined May 3, 2016

Down the rabbit-hole we go!

What's the term for those who are only sexually/romantically attracted to people while down rabbit holes?

Surely there must be one . . .

Considering how many of the terms on the LGBTA-Wiki are less than two months old (as in "coined in June 2020") we might just go ahead and coin one. Lepocavinsexual? Could also be sexual attraction towards rabbit holes. Does kinda sound wrong.

I skiped to the last page to see a discussion about the latest ch release, but this is what I found.

Myself, as well.

Rx_5_50
joined May 3, 2016

Oh shet she actually tells her, now i gotta read up, thought this secret was gonna go on for dozens of chapters but hell yeah now i'm in again

I usually only skip ahead in stories I haven’t read yet to get a feel for the story. If it’s one I’ve already started, then I go back to find the chapter where I stopped reading, so I don’t get spoiled on the progress.

Rx_5_50
joined May 3, 2016

Oh my a girl getting a girl harem... :0

...has yet to properly pop up as a main plot for a story.

joined Sep 6, 2018

Why y'all having heated discussions about serious topics on a comedy yuri manga lmao

It’s part of what makes this website so fun... flame wars over insignificant things which no one in real world would bother listening to.

Wow, I hope you people never see an actual "flame war" or even a real "heated discussion"--you'd need to change your diaper.

No need to change diapers... the moderators on this website are good at stomping trolls.

In fact, I don’t consider it a squabble until Nez-Chan says her piece of mind to shut everyone up. And the ones who really ask for getting banned just keep commenting away... pretty funny to me when trolls always want the last comment even when doing so gets them booted off the website.

joined Aug 10, 2014

So is this the end ? It looks like the end but we might get one or two more chapters right ?

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joined May 24, 2020

i get out from the chapter to go to the Tags and see if there's cheating tag..

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joined Jan 11, 2019

Also, y'all are missing that Ookuma, whether bi, lesbian or single-target, is clearly a furry:

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joined Sep 6, 2018

LETS GOOOOOO

Holy shit, I thought this would be gag manga hell forever, but it was actually just building up and overstaying its welcome as a narrative device! It’s gotten so good so quickly, I love the way it’s handling gender, sexuality, and the main couple’s feelings. It’s just wholesome and good gender feels.

Also, as a trans woman, Kanda-kun’s body/styles (especially that wedding dress!) and her girlfriend’s enthusiastic reactions make me feel better about myself. It’s nice to have some hope that people might actually find you attractive, and I love how passionately the artist gives attention to Kanda’s non-traditional looks.

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joined Oct 16, 2019

That escalated quickly from "Wouldn‘t you rather date a boy?" to "GIVE ME YOUR GIRLFRIEND1!11!"

Hotyangicon3
joined Jun 6, 2013

... Why am I still reading this? What more does mochi want to show us? Is there really all that much to tell after this?

Shithead
joined Oct 23, 2018

i don't give a fuck if there isn't much to show anymore this shit is cute and i will consume all the fluffy filler with pleasure

joined Jul 4, 2018

Thank you, Mochi...

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