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Nozomi
joined May 11, 2017

The last couple chapters have been everything I've ever wanted and more from this kind of Yuri manga

:Chefkiss:

joined Jun 7, 2019

"i want to smell a handsome guy too!" Hahahahah me too

joined Jun 7, 2019

They sure figured out pretty fast how lesbian sex works

It's not like straight sex is often that good on the first time either. It can be quite awkward and un-enjoyable, even with someone you really like, because.. You both suck and not in a good way. :)

It is just another silly anomaly of romantic storytelling. Couple may have all sorts of other troubles they have to fight through, but everyone is a pro in the sack, even if they haven't ever even thought about it before.

yeah and if they are unexperienced it sucks when they don't even know how to touch you,i met a guy who doesn't even know what a clitoris was
as a bisexual,i can say that sex with girls it's a little easier and more enjoyable than with boys(it depends on the boy too)
"and as their bodies are similar" in some way you understand where to touch and where not (I guess)

last edited at Aug 12, 2020 12:33AM

Alcoholism
joined Apr 15, 2017

Kanda-sexual is my new favorite word

Agreed

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joined Sep 1, 2017

So, is that it? Is this the end?

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joined Jan 24, 2018

The last couple chapters have been everything I've ever wanted and more from this kind of Yuri manga

:Chefkiss:

agreement intensifies this has become a favorite for sure

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joined Oct 4, 2018

Kanda-sexual is my new favorite word

Agreed

+1

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joined May 24, 2015

"Why are there over 1000 forum posts about a comedy manga? skips back a page to see a triple quote along with a paragraph of extra text ah, that'd do it."
I'm personally 100% pleased with these last few chapters. The pointless angst and drama at the start bc of the "hidden gender" has karmically been rebalanced by all the fluff and jokes we're getting now.
A+ definitely getting this series if it ever gets NA publishing

8ldsxx8gdfh7s211
joined Jan 11, 2019

yalls writing WHOLE ESSAYS here, im just here enjoying the cute yuri man...

One can do both.

8ldsxx8gdfh7s211
joined Jan 11, 2019

They sure figured out pretty fast how lesbian sex works

Well, dumb teens have managed to figure out sex since the dawn of time. Sex is one of those "easy to learn, difficult to master" type of things.

joined Aug 21, 2017

Why did Muppo touch his eyes after working with peppers

11973
joined Nov 14, 2014

Wow this has become too sweet for me to be able to handle! <3 <3 <3

Also those last two pages, no matter whose art she uses, mochi is still mochi xD

8ldsxx8gdfh7s211
joined Jan 11, 2019

Why did Muppo touch his eyes after working with peppers

The same reason I did: we're both big dumbs.

Hana3
joined Mar 22, 2018

I like this one. I like this one a lot.

8ldsxx8gdfh7s211
joined Jan 11, 2019

Also, y'all are missing that Ookuma, whether bi, lesbian or single-target, is clearly a furry:

joined Jul 26, 2016

^Well it's Ookuma. Weird just comes with the territory. =3=

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joined May 13, 2020

Eh, single target sexuality may be my least favorite trope in yuri

This reads less like single target sexuality and more like Ookuma being dense and a sap.

^ this. Ookuma also said "up until now I've never been interested in a guy..."

She's Kanda-sexual first, useless gay second.

Setsuko2
joined Jan 20, 2014

omg chapter 11 (and 10 by default since it's precursor to 11) makes this manga worth it by 1000%

joined Aug 29, 2019

Could someone educate me on the issue of single target sexuality (or, often "it's okay if it's you")? ["essay" coming up]

I kind of see why it would leave a bad taste. It's like saying, "oh, I'm only gay for you, so I'm actually straight, no homo." Kind of just dodging LGBTQ+ representation to avoid discrimination or something. (I personally don't feel like it is the case here because it isn't highly emphasized)

But also, in general... Can people be unlabeled? Is there such thing as being "mostly straight"? Does attraction to one individual who does not fit into one's sexuality require a label as pansexual, omnisexual, etc.?

Definitions can be helpful when people apply them to themselves—when they learn that there’s a category that corresponds to their own sexual/romantic experience, and they can say, “I’m not weird, there are a lot of other people out there who are [___]sexual/romantic.”

When people try to apply them to others, or to fictional characters, labels tend to be restrictive rather than enlightening—either readers want characters that reflect their own sexuality back to them, or they assume the author is representing [___]sexuality and then critique how it’s being done (even if there’s no evidence that’s what the author is doing at all).

You're once again knocking it out of the park, being all lucid and making sense. I personally don't like the compulsion to slap a label on every expression of romance and sexuality, but if you frame it as a means to an end, a stop-gap on the way to realizing your own identity (not just sexually) it is understandable. I like J.E. Marcia's psychological model on identity, in which "adopting" a label would fall into the "foreclosure" and exploratory "moratorium" states, probably on the way to self-realization through identity achievement.

As for the original question: There's absolutely such a thing as "mostly straight" or "effectively straight", but it could be defined several ways. I'll insert myself as an example: I don't really care what's in the pants, but I don't feel attracted to "clearly male physique" (face, build, bulk), so if a guy were to convincingly cross-dress (or actually be trans and pass well enough), I'd be down with that. (Un)fortunately I'm married to a woman. That last factor very much narrows down how my sexuality manifests to "effectively straight".
I wouldn't really care what's in the pants as long as the rest of the body looks feminine, and I don't know a label that properly describes it, nor do I care if there really is one. I think that's a bit weird, but that's okay, we're all weird in our own ways. Labels, while somewhat useful in discourse, are ultimately just rough categories that will almost never fully describe an individual.
I could speculate (!) that Ookuma has a similar perspective. She's not bothered one bit by what is and isn't in Kanda's pants, but was clearly attracted to her more masculine, if slender, physique.

Of course many people do care about what's in the pants, but initial attraction/falling in love is basically never about the genitals. Rather, it's about other, "unreliable" markers of sex and gender that can be misleading or be misread (as was the case in this manga). And probably pheromones.

All we can be certain about in Ookuma and Kanda is that they're now in a lesbian relationship, and I'm fine with leaving it at that.

last edited at Aug 12, 2020 7:25AM

Mahiru
joined Aug 28, 2016

Small nitpick, but the whole "We're not gay/bi/pan, it just so happens our particular love is so special that it transcends gender" thing still feels like such a cop-out to me. Granted it fits a little more than usual in this story, but It's just such a worn out and nonsensical trope. Like, are you that desperate to vindicate heteronormativity in your gay story?

Edit: just realized that this is apparently a whole discourse already. Oops lol. Anyway I'll just say I don't mind leaving it ambiguous and unlabeled, but saying the thing explicitly is another issue, so I stand by what I said.

last edited at Aug 12, 2020 8:01AM

joined Sep 6, 2018

Why y'all having heated discussions about serious topics on a comedy yuri manga lmao

It’s part of what makes this website so fun... flame wars over insignificant things which no one in real world would bother listening to. It’s kinda like overhearing English Literature majors arguing over the symbolism used in “Oliver Twist” while they’re working at Denny’s restaurant. How hilarious!

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joined Jul 16, 2019

Also, y'all are missing that Ookuma, whether bi, lesbian or single-target, is clearly a furry:

How can you send a picture? Teach me please

herenowforever
joined Feb 11, 2018

As for the original question: There's absolutely such a thing as "mostly straight" or "effectively straight", but it could be defined several ways. I'll insert myself as an example: I don't really care what's in the pants, but I don't feel attracted to "clearly male physique" (face, build, bulk), so if a guy were to convincingly cross-dress (or actually be trans and pass well enough), I'd be down with that. (Un)fortunately I'm married to a woman. That last factor very much narrows down how my sexuality manifests to "effectively straight".
I wouldn't really care what's in the pants as long as the rest of the body looks feminine, and I don't know a label that properly describes it, nor do I care if there really is one. I think that's a bit weird, but that's okay, we're all weird in our own ways. Labels, while somewhat useful in discourse, are ultimately just rough categories that will almost never fully describe an individual.

You're gynesexual. I think lot of people find it more natural to describe the body shapes and other features as to what they are attracted to.

https://lgbta.wikia.org/wiki/Gynesexual

last edited at Aug 12, 2020 8:55AM

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joined Jul 29, 2017

Why y'all having heated discussions about serious topics on a comedy yuri manga lmao

It’s part of what makes this website so fun... flame wars over insignificant things which no one in real world would bother listening to.

Wow, I hope you people never see an actual "flame war" or even a real "heated discussion"--you'd need to change your diaper.

Images__01
joined Nov 3, 2019

I'd like to place an order for an Ookuma please. Delivered ASAP!

I'm loving this manga! Super happy about the development and the characters are hilarious xD Keep it coming!

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