I know I don't have to stay if I don't like it. I do still like it. But I have this uneasy feeling of uncertainty like I'm not sure what we're still doing here while I also don't feel like the last arc was resolved in my head.

That is, I feel like this arc wasn't framed well so coming back every chapter reads like: Oh there's no more danger. There's no more danger?? Are you sure? Oh the chapter's over.

Hahaha so maybe it's better to read once chapters have piled up again.

I thinks you guys are reading between the lines here.

I do not thinks the dad is homophobic just an overprotective dad. He doesn't want his daughter to get married and especially to a girl which society will not approved. And in his current standing it is impossible for him to protect them. All other reasons he cook up with is just an excuse he not realy mean it.

But after witnessing Elsa's power I thinks he will drop the act and start appreciate that he's now have two daughters.

And yes if Elsa is this OP then there're rooms for magic babies.

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I thinks you guys are reading between the lines here.

I do not thinks the dad is homophobic just an overprotective dad. He doesn't want his daughter to get married and especially to a girl which society will not approved. And in his current standing it is impossible for him to protect them. All other reasons he cook up with is just an excuse he not realy mean it.

But after witnessing Elsa's power I thinks he will drop the act and start appreciate that he's now have two daughters.

And yes if Elsa is this OP then there're rooms for magic babies.

This. This is the dad's character at the moment. It started when he thought there was a boyfriend, sputtered when seeing a girl, but then reset himself on the track. It's not about being girls together, it's not about children, it's just a stereotypical dad protecting his daughter.

Careful, Elsa! A heavy rain on drought-dry land can cause more harm than good. Keep it to a light steady rain that can soak to ground without washing it away or causing floods.

Knew he'd come around. He's just too much of a doting pushover for his favorite girlies :D

This. This is the dad's character at the moment. It started when he thought there was a boyfriend, sputtered when seeing a girl, but then reset himself on the track. It's not about being girls together, it's not about children, it's just a stereotypical dad protecting his daughter.

yeah the joke is that he's crazy overprotective and looking for an excuse

It is still so hilarious to me how much of a dad Lord Quimper XD

Yeah, his opinions were derived 75% from being an overprotective father, and 25% being a haughty nobleman who cares about how the opinions of other haughty aristocrats can affect his family's prestige. But he got over both of those things here.

Yeah, his opinions were derived 75% from being an overprotective father, and 25% being a haughty nobleman who cares about how the opinions of other haughty aristocrats can affect his family's prestige. But he got over both of those things here.

Wasn't he also a bona fide villain in the original game? That would explain how he got the look down pat

Father has been overcome with good vibes, all's right with the world.

I thinks you guys are reading between the lines here.

I do not thinks the dad is homophobic just an overprotective dad. He doesn't want his daughter to get married and especially to a girl which society will not approved. And in his current standing it is impossible for him to protect them. All other reasons he cook up with is just an excuse he not realy mean it.

But after witnessing Elsa's power I thinks he will drop the act and start appreciate that he's now have two daughters.

And yes if Elsa is this OP then there're rooms for magic babies.

Reading between the lines is a good thing lol. All stories have a lot more to say than the plain text due to implication, tone, references, etc. This is what forms a story's "subtext," and "reading between the lines" is paying attention to the subtext instead of accidentally skipping it. For example, the subtext of the last two chapters is that Yvonne's father is a man you should like, despite having some pretty clear flaws like heteronormative biases and looking at Elsa as a useful resource. The people rubbed the wrong way by that are not making shit up, they're disagreeing with the positive framing that presents those flaws as things that can be part of a good likeable character, a good likeable man.
I think based on the regular text of this arc that the dad is an ignorant dick and needs to be sat down and educated if he can ever be trusted to do right by Yvonne and Elsa. Unfortunately, the framing implies at the very least that Yvonne and Elsa don't see it that way. That's sad for them tbh. They should expect and get better from their parental figures.

Too much happiness for the poor man. :D

oh this is so lovely. There's really something about watching characters progress through life stages after you've been following them for years. It's hard to compare.

Reading between the lines is a good thing lol. All stories have a lot more to say than the plain text due to implication, tone, references, etc. This is what forms a story's "subtext," and "reading between the lines" is paying attention to the subtext instead of accidentally skipping it.

Like everything in life to much of something is never a good thing. It good to read between the line to go deeper into the story, explores it meaning to find what missing between all the subtexts. But go over than that it may lead to projecting.

For example, the subtext of the last two chapters is that Yvonne's father is a man you should like, despite having some pretty clear flaws like heteronormative biases and looking at Elsa as a useful resource. The people rubbed the wrong way by that are not making shit up, they're disagreeing with the positive framing that presents those flaws as things that can be part of a good likeable character, a good likeable man.

Even a saint will has unfavourable side. Judging a person or an event without full context of the matter can lead to everywhere. It ok to feel offended about something but only an open minded can help reveal a new aspect of that same thing.

I think based on the regular text of this arc that the dad is an ignorant dick and needs to be sat down and educated if he can ever be trusted to do right by Yvonne and Elsa. Unfortunately, the framing implies at the very least that Yvonne and Elsa don't see it that way. That's sad for them tbh. They should expect and get better from their parental figures.

We as an reader can project our thoughts and emotions that purely basing on our understanding of the world happen around us. But from the characters stand point with differences value and backgrounds, they cannot and will never approach things with the same mindset like our own. The only thing important is how they feel and act relative to their world, everything outside of that is meaningless.

People don’t understand the guy was written as villain by the original game
Like the game literally made him evil and unlikable and that he does horrible things
What we got is actually against the game written characterization of him so expecting him to be the good dad who is your typical accepting father who will say “Yes Queen let’s go lesbians” show people don’t understand the setting
Even his looks was designed to be evil fatty but because of all the different scenarios he is getting to be good guy acknowledging he needs to change with the world now his character playing different role the author wanted to show his original character that is still in there his evil looking grin and his noble biases and having children of nobility

Like everything in life to much of something is never a good thing. It good to read between the line to go deeper into the story, explores it meaning to find what missing between all the subtexts. But go over than that it may lead to projecting.

Wise words and good mindset to have XD

People don’t understand the guy was written as villain by the original game
Like the game literally made him evil and unlikable and that he does horrible things
What we got is actually against the game written characterization of him so expecting him to be the good dad who is your typical accepting father who will say “Yes Queen let’s go lesbians” show people don’t understand the setting
Even his looks was designed to be evil fatty but because of all the different scenarios he is getting to be good guy acknowledging he needs to change with the world now his character playing different role the author wanted to show his original character that is still in there his evil looking grin and his noble biases and having children of nobility

[Sorry for possible long comment and text vomit about already rehashed details from storyline]

Umm...Look I know the guy is not perfect and he has bad flaws but I don't think he was 'designed' to be a cartoonish evil villain in the original game...Unless Evie whole existence changed the whole story line...

I believe if Evie did not reincarnated into the Otome game world (Age 8-11 I think?) then Evie might be your standard horrible Otome villain and the father would go everything possible to protect his beloved daughter...Even if he knew that daughter of his did everything wrong and everything was her own fault...If Evie did not reincarnated as Evie then is might be possible Otome game Evie might end up being a spoiled brat that got everything she wanted (+ jealous spoiled affected by mother's death). Evidence is ch.63- spoiling father and death of her mother.

Will he be willing to sacrifice 1000-10,000+ people to save his sick wife...The answer would be 100% yes I believe it would be completely in character for him...He would feel a little bad and he would hide it if he could be we know he would not hesitate if the deaths of thousands meant keeping his wife and daughter safe.

It possible the links or evidence of the family crime was due to the father trying to find ways to save his wife from dying?

Ch.62- Shows he is a doting father and complain about Evie calling him Lord father/Father-sama in japanese like terms instead of Daddy or Papa.

ch.63- Evie mother died and passed alway in the original game story line....but according to Evie she got better after Evie grow up...This meant the time-loop might have already happen or Evie whole existence just changed everything??? This meant currently we are timeline #3 or Redo attempt #2...Honestly I am still quite curious about how Future Elsa(Timeline 1 bad ending) and how Evie's mother end up surviving during the 1st original timeline (Evie current so-called 1st timeline run even though she didn't do anything except exist, meaning possible time-line or time travel shenanigans happen already.)

Father-kun here call the [THE 2nd PRINCE] a brat and complain about why he is always coming to visit...Despite being Evie' Fiance (Handpicked by king to be Evie future spouse.) Jealous doting father behavior.

ch.63- Original story line after Evie's mother' death in the game. Yes he would have tried to conquer and dominate the whole kingdom...But that was only after the Villainess(Original game Evie was consumed by the power of darkness)...But like Evie said since she was never mislead/misled by that he never become that kind of person and is just a fool who spoils his daughter.

In the early part of the chapters when Evie wrote to him and let it slip that she was acting like a commoner (Going out to the market and buying stuff personally instead of hiring someone to get stuff for her...He end up writing pages of apologizes for her current 'Misfortune' even though Evie didn't see it as a bother or hassle. Evie is still living a decent life after her family got exiled and title got stripped in the very early chapters...nothing compared to rich nobles but more like a rich wealthy merchant status.) Evie now has to be a bit more careful about how she writes about her everyday life after that lol XD

The father is not a corrupt noble in this current timeline (His wife not dead and his daughter not corrupted) and his follower/servants 'CHOOSE' to follow him after the exile that tells he has charismatic aura and talent instead of abandoning his butt, this shows he did not abuse his worker/servant and instead got their loyalty at least...Though after his wife death his character might have changed for the worse (Become a corrupted but talented noble) but he would still have been a talented person with high ambition. There are rich stupid people (Born rich but never put on hard work or common sense) and smart rich people (Born rich but talented and work hard)...The father is the latter tho.

ch.70 to 76-- The reason and possible evidence for Evie's family exile (Besides the annoying evil Villainess system causing the exile ending). Possible link to Leopold incident when Evie went back in time, the 2nd prince was helping out but the other noble fractions probably saw this as a good chance to kick down one of their rivals for their so-called evil deed (Links to bad illegal practices, we know Evie family is innocent but any written letters or possible 'evidence' could have helped the Villainess System kick start the Exile Ending. A.K.A- Fuel for the Exile ending).

TL:DR VERSION- (If his wife not dead + Evie his daughter did not become distorted and become evil spoiled villainess) = He has no reason to become corrupted and hungry for more power like in the 'original otome game'. Like my theory the game version of him did so to protect his only family member left, his daughter Evie even if he knew it was wrong and since his wife is dead...FK THE WORLD is probably his mentality and justification at the time!!!

This is just my thoughts and analysis on Father-kun's character now and compared to the so-called 'Original otome game timeline' based on the chapters I can remember and seen.

I wonder what the debate was about.

I wonder what the debate was about.

That’s what I’m curious about

If I had to guess, maybe it was a debate about whether the fox was meant to be a fox or not? Ngl, I thought it was a cat or smthn? The first design didn’t make me think “ah! That’s a fox” but the new design, I can see it.

Ig we’ll never know

Took me a while because I'm too old for "find the seven differences" games, but the difference seem to be straighter ears, making them feel more fox-like, and the curve of the fox's horn matching Olivia more closely. Both of which make sense, if people were questioning those.

Oh, so Olivia visits her kouhai... hopefully, to share friendly advice on dating Smollet women. :3

Took me a while because I'm too old for "find the seven differences" games, but the difference seem to be straighter ears, making them feel more fox-like, and the curve of the fox's horn matching Olivia more closely. Both of which make sense, if people were questioning those.

My guess is that the fox's horns were placed weirdly before: the horns usually sit on the forehead between the ears and the eyes, which is the case in the new design, but not in the old one (where the horns were behind the ears).

She really overdid it there.

And I guess the black is the curse that would normally be suppressed by her magic...

Lena is as subtle as ever~

The maid knows what's up.

• "Watch out for the curse and stuff!"
• "No"
• "Alright"

perfect

I'm almost wondering if telling Elsa was a good idea. She managed to keep her curse in check for years by not overusing her magic, and it wouldn't be outlandish to think that once she leaves the village, she will no longer feel the need to expand everything to prove herself.

Now that she's aware of it, though, and obstinately refusing to be careful, it's almost certain she will use it all at some point. Like the idea it's "safer not to use magic" seem to have encouraged her to use as much magic as she can.