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543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

To be fair, we don't know that the family gathering is a lie. It might be a lie, but it kind of doesn't matter since if she wanted to go to prom Aya would skip it even if it were true.

As for the rest, I think we're coming up against a disagreement here because Mitsuki never asked Aya about her intentions. She didn't ask if Aya wanted to go, just if she was going. Aya said she wasn't going, not that she didn't want to go.

I agree that Aya is fudging the truth here a bit with implications, but I also can't say I'm super into how Mitsuki just assumes Aya will be her date without asking her or expressing herself. She doesn't say, "Too bad about your family gathering, I'd rather have gone to prom with you than this music event", she just keeps it to her self. And then this chapter she just straight up says "You didn't want to go with me?" as if she had asked Aya and was rejected.

Mitsuki is doing the same thing Joe is doing, assuming that things will just go her way without being explicit. Aya is doing the opposite, assuming things will not go her way which makes her not try. Aya has her own problems to deal with, but let's not discount Mitsuki again not expressing herself.

I generally agree with the last paragraph. I would say though that your "best friend" who you do everything with suddenly going to a large event without telling or inviting you would make most people feel some kind of way.

That's also why Mitsuki doesn't need to ask whether Aya would be going with her. It's an understanding between the two of them already, and we know Aya did indeed plan to go with Mitsuki and no one else.

Mitsuki asking if Aya is going to the prom is Mitsuki asking if they're both going. Aya understands that implication. That understanding is why Aya reacts as she does, pretending she can't and never intended to go, so Mitsuki feels no burden. She knows Mitsuki and her are a two-person deal.

There's an argument for taking someone for granted but these two aren't a couple and we don't even know Mitsuki's romantic feelings, so it's all very muddled. That's part of the issue though. Too much of their relationship is left to assumptions and silent understanding between themselves and to the reader. It's long been time to be more direct between themselves and narratively.

last edited at Nov 24, 2024 2:54PM

Sdm%20ladies%20cheering
joined Apr 10, 2023

To be clear, I think that both of these kids are making mistakes from a very sympathetic, understandable place. Aya thinks she isn't as important to Mitsuki as she really is, and Mitsuki was for a while so focused on music and her stress of getting "outed" as a musician that she kinda stopped having the space to pay attention to the person by her side through all of it. I think Mitsuki assumes on some level that she can reliably know about Aya since their whole relationship was framed around what Mitsuki knew and what Aya didn't for months. She hasn't quite caught up with her needing to pay attention and try since Aya's no longer spilling her heart about "onii-san" the next desk over

last edited at Nov 24, 2024 2:44PM

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joined Jan 2, 2022

To be fair, we don't know that the family gathering is a lie. It might be a lie, but it kind of doesn't matter since if she wanted to go to prom Aya would skip it even if it were true.

As for the rest, I think we're coming up against a disagreement here because Mitsuki never asked Aya about her intentions. She didn't ask if Aya wanted to go, just if she was going. Aya said she wasn't going, not that she didn't want to go.

I agree that Aya is fudging the truth here a bit with implications, but I also can't say I'm super into how Mitsuki just assumes Aya will be her date without asking her or expressing herself. She doesn't say, "Too bad about your family gathering, I'd rather have gone to prom with you than this music event", she just keeps it to her self. And then this chapter she just straight up says "You didn't want to go with me?" as if she had asked Aya and was rejected.

Mitsuki is doing the same thing Joe is doing, assuming that things will just go her way without being explicit. Aya is doing the opposite, assuming things will not go her way which makes her not try. Aya has her own problems to deal with, but let's not discount Mitsuki again not expressing herself.

I generally agree with the last paragraph. I would say though that your "best friend" who you do everything with suddenly going to a large event without telling or inviting you would make most people feel some kind of way.

That's also why Mitsuki doesn't need to ask whether Aya would be going with her. It's an understanding between the two of them already, and we know Aya did indeed plan to go with Mitsuki and no one else.

Mitsuki asking if Aya is going to the prom is Mitsuki asking if they're both going. Aya understands that implication. That understanding is why Aya reacts as she does, pretending she can't and never intended to go, so Mitsuki feels no burden. She knows Mitsuki and her are a two-person deal.

There's an argument for taking someone for granted but these two aren't a couple and we don't even know Mitsuki's romantic feelings, so it's all very muddled. That's part of the issue though. Too much of their relationship is left to assumptions and silent understanding between themselves and to the reader. It's long been time to be more direct between themselves and narratively.

I don't like the idea that Mitsuki doesn't need to ask Aya because it's an understanding between them. To some extent that's been the case so far, but it leads to situations like Joe's and Kanna's.

Looking back at some of their major events:
ch 37 and 38 - RHCP fight
ch 51 - Aya to Mitsuki "You don't talk to me at all, Koga-san. I think that one day, you'll end up going away without telling me. That's how I feel sometimes." Instead of answering, Mitsuki takes her finger in hers.
ch 79 - Mitsuki to Aya "I'm sorry. I mean...this was supposed to be a secret between you and me..." referring to the tattoos and piercings.
ch 97 - After not hearing from her for a week, Mitsuki comes back and actually thanks Aya for getting angry on her behalf.
ch 100 - "The safest place for me...should have been next to you, Oosawa-san." Mitsuki thinks, but doesn't actually say to Aya.
ch 107 - Mitsuki decides to tell Aya about the music industry party invitation, Aya says she's not going to the prom

They do talk sometimes, like they have a moment in ch97 when Mitsuki comes back to school. But largely speaking Mitsuki never really directly addresses the things that Aya says to her, and keeps inside of her how she feels about everything. Even the prom situation. Rather than asking Aya what her prom plans are, she tells her about the music industry party invite first. How could Aya not see that as the primary thing she wants to do, if it's the first thing she brought up?

And Aya doesn't assume they'll go together, she just wants to go with her. Her saying "I'm not going either" doesn't imply they would have gone together, it just says, "don't worry about being the only one to miss out on the prom". If she assumed they would go together, she wouldn't have first asked Narita and she wouldn't have been worried about messing up the timing.

Teru%20frown
joined Jul 9, 2020

Little bros joining Narita in the wingman brigade, I see. In their own little gremlin way.

543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

I don't like the idea that Mitsuki doesn't need to ask Aya because it's an understanding between them. To some extent that's been the case so far, but it leads to situations like Joe's and Kanna's.

Yeah, I agree. That was what my final paragraph was about here:

There's an argument for taking someone for granted but these two aren't a couple and we don't even know Mitsuki's romantic feelings, so it's all very muddled.

That's part of the issue though. Too much of their relationship is left to assumptions and silent understanding between themselves and to the reader. It's long been time to be more direct between themselves and narratively.

last edited at Nov 24, 2024 5:26PM

joined Jan 14, 2020

We know that Aya's first reaction to hearing about the prom was "awesome, I'm going!" So her later "I'm not going, family thing" is probably a blatant lie.

Sun%20jing%20dy-scans
joined Aug 12, 2019

Little bros joining Narita in the wingman brigade, I see. In their own little gremlin way.

the pot is cooking, but it needed to be stirred for these two

Glass%20drum
joined Jan 3, 2019

Uncle and Koga about to bond over girl trouble, and he's probably gonna tell her to not make the same mistakes he did.

Sdm%20ladies%20cheering
joined Apr 10, 2023

Uncle and Koga about to bond over girl trouble, and he's probably gonna tell her to not make the same mistakes he did.

Actually that feels really possible. I can easily imagine him saying it unprompted, old guys love giving unsolicited advice whenever they're thinking about their own mistakes lol. We know he already ships Mitsuki and Aya, and he doesn't need to know a thing about any currently happening problems to activate wistfully regretful old man mode. Without even realizing he's doing it Joe might just tell Mitsuki exactly what she needs to hear next chapter.

last edited at Nov 25, 2024 12:54AM

Icon_tinyrain
joined Jan 30, 2017

Little bros joining Narita in the wingman brigade, I see. In their own little gremlin way.

At this point, the whole town is trying to get these two useless lesbians together. Their first kiss will be followed by a collective sigh of relief.

Download%20(11)
joined Jan 27, 2016

wow ALMOST NO Development since like 20 chapters

Kafkaproblemchild
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joined May 23, 2024

At this point I want Aya to find someone who will be considerate of her .
Koga is so clueless it drives me insane .
It's all in her court and she decided she'd rather play track .
Aya deserves better .

last edited at Nov 25, 2024 11:09AM

Palucina1
joined May 26, 2020

Before you get mad at Aya and Mitsuki, remember that these two are Teeny, Tiny Baby Gays. They have to crawl before they can walk. They're gonna fall flat on their bums more than a few times, before they get the hang of it.

Sdm%20ladies%20cheering
joined Apr 10, 2023

Also worth keeping in mind that Mitsuki struggling to express herself openly, her fear of conflict and potential rejection, etc. Were some of the very first aspects of her shown and have been consistent problems for her, although they are slowly fading. She's not just a baby gay, she's a traumatized introverted baby gay who clearly had some fucked up family stuff happen to her before the start of the story that we've still yet to learn about.

last edited at Nov 25, 2024 4:03PM

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joined Jul 29, 2017

Also worth keeping in mind that Mitsuki struggling to express herself openly, her fear of conflict and potential rejection, etc. Were some of the very first aspects of her shown and have been consistent problems for her, although they are slowly fading. She's not just a baby gay, she's a traumatized introverted baby gay who clearly had some fucked up family stuff happen to her before the start of the story that we've still yet to learn about.

I'm not sure the family stuff is necessarily true--we were shown that she was always pretty introverted but content to just be herself at school, then she got bullied, or more precisely her friend Sakiko got bullied because of Mitsuki not conforming by wearing a skirt (Chap. 37.5), and then she really closed herself off.

We've been told nothing about her pre-Joe life, so family trauma is always a possibility, but the explanation for Mitsuki's affect that we've been given so far is that she's a loner kid with "a different beat" whose friend got bullied because of it.

Eterna%20rinebow%20small
joined Oct 20, 2017

Oof the narrative is so weirdly jumpy it's impossible to get used to. Skipping and hopping from plot point to plot point so quickly that every development can only get a shrug out of me.

I don't think there was a problem when the series was just a gag comedy but the coming of age drama it has transitioned to bleeds out from being handled like this.

joined May 31, 2023

Ngl this slow burn is highkey burning me out

joined Feb 20, 2024

Ngl this slow burn is highkey burning me out

yeah....kinda same. would just like the plot between the 2 main characters to move forward a bit faster. it's been 2 years...

last edited at Nov 29, 2024 7:02AM

Bf020ca0f35f16540090ec38a160712e
joined Mar 21, 2018

You guys know that you don't have to read, right? You can forget about it for a few months and get back to it if you feel like it.

Kuroko-railgun
joined Jul 21, 2024

well, things are getting even more interesting! Mitsuki might just take her own advice that she gave to Joe and apply it to Aya, maybe a moment of realization. I wouldn’t be surprised if that happens in the next one or two chapters. time to wait and see! :)

last edited at Dec 1, 2024 10:10AM

Yuu
joined Mar 28, 2015

In the first place, Mitsuki was never really interested in, or looking for, a record deal. It's just something that dropped in her lap without warning and people around her hyped up. Especially Aya, who wants to get Mitsuki's music "out there".

She might just turn back and go to the prom instead.She doesn't really care about that party with music people.

Or she might go, find the people there insufferable and then just leave and go to the prom, just at the end, where she'll find Aya and they'll dance (let's hope).

last edited at Dec 1, 2024 6:04AM

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joined May 3, 2020

aaaaaaaaaahhh
i don't really know why i was expecting the adult to act like an adult in a manga.

Img_20260111_021247
joined Oct 6, 2014

You guys know that you don't have to read, right? You can forget about it for a few months and get back to it if you feel like it.

Exactly. This was what I did before when I was getting bored of the pace. I'll probably do that again if this arc stretches.

I don't think it's a story pacing issue per se, just a consequence of the 4 page style.

Aoi%20nagisa%20-%20s
joined Aug 17, 2012

... Mitsuki might just take her own advice that she gave to Joe and apply it to Aya, ...

I am really, really, hoping that is what's going to happen.

Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

Not a big fan of Kanna potentially changing her entire life on a somewhat lukewarm, whimsical decision to romance her at the airport.

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