Where is Mashiro?

There's absolutely no way Mashiro and Toxic Mom could wait in the same room together, and there's no way Toxic Mom would back down and let the person who should be there be there. Mashiro's probably nearby but chased out of the room itself.
Also Makino is almost certainly on her parents' health insurance, considering they haven't yet made a big deal out of fully disowning her yet, so there's no avoiding her parents finding out here. I wouldn't expect Makino to remember to change her emergency contacts either lol.

Edit: I looked back and I don't even think Makino's mom knows that both her kids are gay yet. The confrontation with Mashiro in chapter 59 was about trying to force Makino to marry a guy, which she vocally refused not because "I'm gay" but because "I want to get into college". Toxic Mom knows Mashiro and Makino stuck up for each other but not really why yet.

last edited at Dec 16, 2023 11:15AM

Where is Mashiro?

There's absolutely no way Mashiro and Toxic Mom could wait in the same room together, and there's no way Toxic Mom would back down and let the person who should be there be there. Mashiro's probably nearby but chased out of the room itself.
Also Makino is almost certainly on her parents' health insurance, considering they haven't yet made a big deal out of fully disowning her yet, so there's no avoiding her parents finding out here. I wouldn't expect Makino to remember to change her emergency contacts either lol.

Edit: I looked back and I don't even think Makino's mom knows that both her kids are gay yet. The confrontation with Mashiro in chapter 59 was about trying to force Makino to marry a guy, which she vocally refused not because "I'm gay" but because "I want to get into college". Toxic Mom knows Mashiro and Makino stuck up for each other but not really why yet.

On Makino emergency contacts, she only recently got kicked out, so likely hospital has her parents down as the ones to contact, maid cafe logically had Mashiro down, but she was there, so no need to contact.

Also Mashiro may have had a client scheduled, so she couldnt stay with Makino.

Also, this situation is reminding me couples that had family's stop their partners from seeing them when they get hospitalised.

Also still wondering what Makino's dad thinks of all this, like is even allowed to have thoughts on this?

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Also, this situation is reminding me couples that had family's stop their partners from seeing them when they get hospitalised.

Yes, it's exactly that. In places where gay marriage is not legal, your gay partner has absolutely no right or power to decide anything if you get hospitalised. Even a simple visit may not be allowed. It's the biological family who will be called by the hospital and asked to make the decisions. This situation rn with Makino finding her mom next to her bed, while Mashiro is notoriously absent, illustrates the problem quite well.

Also still wondering what Makino's dad thinks of all this, like is even allowed to have thoughts on this?

We have seen him before. He's even worse than Toxic Mom.

Anyone wanna bet Mashiro must be blaming herself for Makino's collapse? Perhaps even thinking she has failed as her lover?

And Makino's mom probably got angry, yelled at her and reinforced this idea.

Next chapter there's gonna be gloom & angst.

Yes, it's exactly that. In places where gay marriage is not legal, your gay partner has absolutely no right or power to decide anything if you get hospitalised. Even a simple visit may not be allowed. It's the biological family who will be called by the hospital and asked to make the decisions. This situation rn with Makino finding her mom next to her bed, while Mashiro is notoriously absent, illustrates the problem quite well.

Thing is, this can also apply to het couples, if family dont like your partner.

And some places in Japan do offer something that gives gay couple this right, however I doubt Mashiro and Makino have gotten it, when they only recently got together

Scumbag works for one week, nearly dies.

Mood.

I know scummy gap student in Japanese is "kuzu rouninsei" but I wonder, what exactly is it that Makino calls her mother and is translated as toxic mom?

I know scummy gap student in Japanese is "kuzu rouninsei" but I wonder, what exactly is it that Makino calls her mother and is translated as toxic mom?

I haven't read the Japanese version, but I'm guessing kuzu mama or kuzu haha.

I know scummy gap student in Japanese is "kuzu rouninsei" but I wonder, what exactly is it that Makino calls her mother and is translated as toxic mom?

I haven't read the Japanese version, but I'm guessing kuzu mama or kuzu haha.

meh, sounds too cutesy, like saying "shitty mommy" she probably calls her baba, meaning "old lady", but translated to "hag" in a negative context

edit: this question made me curious enough to watch an ad to read the raw chapter and she actually doesn't call her mom kuzu/scummy at all, she calls her 毒親: 毒 being the character for poison or toxin and 親 of course meaning parent.

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Thanks for checking!

Toxic mom is feeling the backlash from being a toxic mom lmao.

Who would have thought I'd be feeling kinda sorry for the mom

hey, seems like it might work out for those 2^^

Who would have thought I'd be feeling kinda sorry for the mom

Don't, this is the consequences of her actions catching up to her

What with her basically insulting Reina's partner.

Then treating Makino like she is nothing, and only really taking notice of her when she is no longer a spare.

Also, the end there I see 2 outcomes, depending on how cynical we get, either mum comes to the realisation her shitty attitude has cost her, and properly tries to make amends, or she doublesdown and effectively gets herself cut off from her daughters.

I still have thoughts on the dad in this situation, like does he even know Makimo has left home.
I doubt he'd be different from the mum, just more so, is he even aware of what happened with Makino.

I'm impressed Makino managed to squeeze that much money out of mom.

Who would have thought I'd be feeling kinda sorry for the mom

Don't, this is the consequences of her actions catching up to her

What with her basically insulting Reina's partner.

Then treating Makino like she is nothing, and only really taking notice of her when she is no longer a spare.

Also, the end there I see 2 outcomes, depending on how cynical we get, either mum comes to the realisation her shitty attitude has cost her, and properly tries to make amends, or she doublesdown and effectively gets herself cut off from her daughters.

I still have thoughts on the dad in this situation, like does he even know Makimo has left home.
I doubt he'd be different from the mum, just more so, is he even aware of what happened with Makino.

Also kids are their own individuals, parents being miserable because they can't control their kids and shape them into what they want is on the parent and not the kid.

Who would have thought I'd be feeling kinda sorry for the mom

Don't, this is the consequences of her actions catching up to her

What with her basically insulting Reina's partner.

Then treating Makino like she is nothing, and only really taking notice of her when she is no longer a spare.

Also, the end there I see 2 outcomes, depending on how cynical we get, either mum comes to the realisation her shitty attitude has cost her, and properly tries to make amends, or she doublesdown and effectively gets herself cut off from her daughters.

I still have thoughts on the dad in this situation, like does he even know Makimo has left home.
I doubt he'd be different from the mum, just more so, is he even aware of what happened with Makino.

I’m thinking/hoping it’ll be the first option. This chapter at least shows that she cares enough about Makino to help her even after she refuses to come home, so she seems to at least care about her daughters in her own shitty way. She even apologized to Makino after realizing how much her recent actions had hurt her. She might stir up a bit more trouble before this is over (depending on how much longer this series will continue for), but I do think that, ultimately, this is a case of a mother who loves her children but is just isn’t aware of how bad she is at showing it, and I feel like the story will reflect that in the end and have them make up, at least a little.

And, if nothing else, she should love Mashiro once she gets over the whole woman thing. She’s barely been able to get Makino out of bed in the morning, yet Mashiro’s been able to get Makino motivated enough to work the point of exhaustion.

As for the dad, I imagine he just follows his wife’s lead on this stuff. Makino’s family definitely feels like the highly traditional nuclear family, where the husband focuses almost solely on work and the wife controls the household. Not to say he’s any better than Makino’s mom (her sister did seem upset with both of them, after all), just that he’s probably something of a yes man for her. If he is aware of what’s going on with Makino, he’s probably just leaving it up to his wife anyway.

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Toxic mother(Makino's mom) If your worried about your bloodline dying out from both your daughters being yuri/lesbians...
there is always the options to suggest them getting a Sp*rm donator if they interested in having children (Bonus points if you can use it to build a connection with your business friends by getting one of their hopefully sons to donate, Makino low chance but Reina might be interested)...or hope science advanced enough in the next 10-20 years to turn a egg cell into a sp*rm cell XD

Toxic mom at-least cared enough to see her daughter after hearing her collapse from stress+Overworking. She even gave her daughter some extra spending money [The economy is fking tough nowadays if your not a successful business owner].

Look on the bright side Toxic Mother...at least your 'former' useless daughter is finally improving herself and stop being a lazy scumbag by studying hard+ working hard to make money from part-time job...

Maybe one day she will be smart enough to take over the family business/Cram school building your owner of? Mashiro is at least smart enough probably to let Makino to inherit the family business...She seems smart enough to help her future waifu/wife.

Plan B or C is Toxic mother turning to the husband and saying they have to make another baby and hope she/he doesn't become gay/lesbian/yuri too, it still safe if toxic mother is not over the age of 40+ XD

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Maybe toxic mom will eventually adopt Mashiro and let her inherit and run the school business.

Maybe toxic mom will eventually adopt Mashiro and let her inherit and run the school business.

slow clap

I'm so glad this was resolved immediately (though I guess Toxic Parents will still try to separate them or something).

They're so cute together :3

This chapter at least shows that she cares enough about Makino to help her even after she refuses to come home, so she seems to at least care about her daughters in her own shitty way. She even apologized to Makino after realizing how much her recent actions had hurt her.

She apologized because she thinks the "proper steps" is for her to be an adult and offer an olive branch, and for Makino to graciously accept it and come back home. The fact that said apologies comes with the expectation that Makino will abandon her gay ways and leave Mashiro to come back home makes it entirely worthless, in my opinion.

In the end it doesn't matter that she thinks she's acting out of love. That doesn't excuse treating her children like objects. It just makes her look incompetent (clearly failing to be a caring mother) on top of hateful.

Don't get me wrong, if Toxic Mom stops being such a shitty mother, that's for the best. It's just that so far, none of her actions deserve any pity whatsoever. She could grow depressed from how the situation turned out and it'd still be entirely her own fault.

Toxic mother(Makino's mom) If your worried about your bloodline dying out from both your daughters being yuri/lesbians...
there is always the options to suggest them getting a Sp*rm donator if they interested in having children

That's not the resolution I want this story to take. Makino and Reina can have children in whatever way they have available is that's what they want... But there is no legitimacy whatsoever in a pathetic excuse of "bloodline". Can you imagine if this arc ends up with Toxic Mom accepting her daughters' partners, only to start pressuring them to have children instead ? What a way to ruin a redemption arc that would be.

I suspect that this will end with Toxic Mom accepting that her daughters are gay, but without her actions being entirely forgotten, and the gap she created will remain even if they end up on good terms again. Which would be the most "normal" way to happily resolve the current situation.

They're so cute together :3

Makino is nothing if not constant. Being direct in professing her love to Mashiro suits them well. And any chapter that ends with a smile is a good chapter !

"Why does nothing go the way I expect it to..."

Because you act and think like a shitty person and a shitty parent, so your expectations are correspondingly shit. If you were less shitty at either of those, things would go your way considerably more often. :-)

Toxic mother(Makino's mom) If your worried about your bloodline dying out from both your daughters being yuri/lesbians...
there is always the options to suggest them getting a Sp*rm donator if they interested in having children

That's not the resolution I want this story to take. Makino and Reina can have children in whatever way they have available is that's what they want... But there is no legitimacy whatsoever in a pathetic excuse of "bloodline". Can you imagine if this arc ends up with Toxic Mom accepting her daughters' partners, only to start pressuring them to have children instead ? What a way to ruin a redemption arc that would be.

I suspect that this will end with Toxic Mom accepting that her daughters are gay, but without her actions being entirely forgotten, and the gap she created will remain even if they end up on good terms again. Which would be the most "normal" way to happily resolve the current situation.

It not really about what you 'want' but rather about how the author want to write the story...which is good news for you since she will probably not go that route since judging from how the author writes the story is not too serious and mostly light-hearted & somewhat goofy. She will probably give us a ending that most people will enjoy, this whole conflict will probably only last about maybe 4-5 more chapters at most hopefully.

I agree that Makino [Don't it for her but she would be the deadbeat carefree dad/mom spoiling the children lol] and Reina can have children anyway they want (It can be either adoption, sp*rm donator or even advanced science by turning a egg cell into a sp*rm cell) XD

If you seen my earlier comments/posts you know I am rooting for both Makino and Mashiro to be happy + Makino becoming a better person to care for Mashiro/her waifu.

I am simply giving the mother a olive branch and simply listing out possible option in the worst case scenario if a compromise needs to happens if the Toxic Mother decides to go full blown PSYCHO. I am a logical person, not a person of emotions. I much prefer the [Toxic mother] eventually accept her daughter(s) choices in the end by her own free will but we cannot just forced people to just accept thing just cuz we want them to accept it. We have to make them see why it a good idea to accept the situation.

[Toxic mother] is a very powerful person, both socially and economically. If she chooses to she can spend money/hire people to make Makino and Mashiro life very very difficult. She is the person who got Mashiro fired after all from being a teacher at Cram school...

We have to ask the questions and understand how [Toxic Mom] thinks,
Does she hate lesbians or just not want to deal with any non-normal situations?
Does she care about how society see her?
Does she care about money/economic power?
Does she want grandchildren or does she just see grandchildren as tools to increase her social status/ let her legacy live on.

Does she not agree with the current situation becuz Makino is dumb? [Solution]: Makino is becoming less dumb and even smarter thanks to Mashiro teaching + Help in studying...ironic considering [Toxic Mom] is supposed to be the owner of the Cram school/In the studying business...guess both mother and father gave up on Makino and focus all their attention on Reina[Older sis] deeming Makino as too dumb.
In 3-5 years later Makino can probably get into that high-level university and even take over the family business without it shutting down/losing profits. Mashiro even shown proof of Makino rising grades.
Like other comments and myself said...Mashiro can take over the family business when she marries Makino, heck if we see a increase in good grades and profits in the test run then the Toxic Mom can't complain + no room to argue lol XD

Does she want grandchildren? Possibly...but I think Toxic Mom just sees grandchildren as a way to pass on her legacy + increase her influence + Too fixed in her 'normal' ways. Though this part Toxic Mother might have to give up if both of her daughters are not interested in having children, just going to have to be satisfied with her both daughters being productive members of society that she can brag about. Toxic Mother is just going to have to go for plan B-C, make another kid if she really wants Grandchildren lol.

[Toxic Mom] is a very flawed and even scummy person, I can point out her many flaws and failing such as her neglect of Makino upbringing. Probably doesn't even know her daughter got bullied in high school just for rejecting a boy's confession to her, failed in raising Makino to be interested in studying, motivating her to study + improving herself and only angry at Makino for not being a productive member of [SOCIETY]. She is more worried about how people will see her as the mother of a useless neet daughter + the potential shame of having a so-called useless daughter. etc. etc. etc.

See she only see Makino as a spare due to Reina going off-path despite all the effort + resources spend. Messed up I know but that is how some parents are like...

Honesty I hope the conflict won't be too drawn out and they can come to a reasonable terms with each other at the end but eh not going to hold my breath, would be nice if eventually accepts the situation even somewhat reluctantly but not the end of world if she doesn't.

Though...If I was Makino I would just give back all the money after 4-5 years later that the [Toxic Mom] gave me for studying + other stuff and say "Thank you for everything but kindly fk off if you can't accept the person I am dating/marrying."

Perfect way to cut off ties if the Mother still disapprove of the relationship, no excuses or reasons for the [Toxic Mother] to enter her life since she pay off all the 'debts/money' given. Even having a tape recorder/hidden camera just in case as evidence of any potential future harassment but eh I am overthinking things like this is somekind of War/Battle when in reality this is just a somewhat light-hearted not too serious silly Yuri love story lol XD

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I’m thinking/hoping it’ll be the first option. This chapter at least shows that she cares enough about Makino to help her even after she refuses to come home, so she seems to at least care about her daughters in her own shitty way. She even apologized to Makino after realizing how much her recent actions had hurt her.

Should she be pat on the back for that? This is the bare minimum for a parent. It's not not a compliment to think, "Wow, looks like she does actually care for her daughter!?" That should have been a given. The floor for her is beyond low. Her feelings can be whatever, it's actions that matter in the end. Her actions have been terrible, misguided or not. If she didn't apologize and visit her own daughter in the hospital, she would have been a whole different level of trash.

She'll need to do a lot more than that and I'm not holding my breath. Her response to a previously aimless daughter finding a partner she loves, a place to live independently and confidently stating that she'll continue to study hard and succeed, is to wonder why things don't work out like she wants. It's still a negative to her. She's still just as self centered.

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