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前面的篇章中王子,女仆以及艾莎都有这段童年回忆,但是伊芳没有。这个篇章收束了前面的伏笔,并不是伊芳忘记了,而是在这之前,这段经历是不存在的。这段经历并不是幻境,而是黑艾莎用魔法确确实实的将伊芳传送到了过去,改变了过去。黑艾莎是未来的艾莎,之所以要这样做必定是经历了惨痛的未来,因而回到过去,改变这个结局。这个badend大概是因为系统吧。话说回来,王子和艾莎又为什么能够一直记得呢。

Rather than spoilers, I think they're theorizing that the reason Yvonne can't remember these events is because they're being created as she's living them now because the other Elsa appears to be coming from a bad end route. That the events did not exist in our route prior to this point. If Google translate is accurate.

My guess would just be that because this current route is a good end route, then the time travel happened already and was effective? And it's still likely that young Yvonne does not keep her memories from when she was possessed(?) by future Yvonne.

But if other Elsa is route hopping, that makes for interesting possibilities too

I'm also thinking the silver vine gag is going to be silly rather than inappropriate, if it ends up acting like catnip

last edited at Aug 28, 2023 2:29PM

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joined Feb 17, 2018

this is one of those times where it feels like the author is writing fanfiction of their own series

Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

I don’t think this is pure filler, honestly. I think this is just a cutesy way to make the connection that Evie and her mother are both very susceptible to possession by magical creatures. It’s developing on the succubus blood plot point and the hint about her mother that was dropped earlier. It seems like they’re going somewhere with it—maybe it has something to do with the Villainess System or the way they’re going to avoid the disaster in the present.

It’s… kinda weird, and feels a little bit directionless, like a lot of this arc, but this author has done well enough that I’m willing to put in a bit of trust and patience.

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joined Jun 21, 2021

Another reason could be to make sure that Elsa and Garth don't meet as kids, since he hadn't met her before when Evie introduced him to Elsa as a potential suitor.

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joined Mar 6, 2021

So was the medicine catnip or what?

She specifically said it was Silver Vine.
So yes, it's like catnip.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actinidia_polygama

Oh, I didn't think the name they gave would've been of an existing plant, that's cool.

Khancrop
joined Feb 18, 2013

前面的篇章中王子,女仆以及艾莎都有这段童年回忆,但是伊芳没有。这个篇章收束了前面的伏笔,并不是伊芳忘记了,而是在这之前,这段经历是不存在的。这段经历并不是幻境,而是黑艾莎用魔法确确实实的将伊芳传送到了过去,改变了过去。黑艾莎是未来的艾莎,之所以要这样做必定是经历了惨痛的未来,因而回到过去,改变这个结局。这个badend大概是因为系统吧。话说回来,王子和艾莎又为什么能够一直记得呢。

Rather than spoilers, I think they're theorizing that the reason Yvonne can't remember these events is because they're being created as she's living them now because the other Elsa appears to be coming from a bad end route. That the events did not exist in our route prior to this point. If Google translate is accurate.

My guess would just be that because this current route is a good end route, then the time travel happened already and was effective? And it's still likely that young Yvonne does not keep her memories from when she was possessed(?) by future Yvonne.

But if other Elsa is route hopping, that makes for interesting possibilities too

I think it's pretty clearly a stable time loop. It even has the built-in pressure valve of warning Yvonne that she'll be snapped back through the ring. Who can guess how many times Elsa has repeated this cycle of trying to alter fate and save Yvonne? She probably doesn't even know herself. Narratively, though, we can be pretty certain this is the final time (because otherwise what's the point? This really isn't that kind of story).

Amusingly, it might not even be anything Yvonne particularly does in the past that leads to breaking the cycle, it could just as well be information she gains and brings back as a change she makes while there. (That is, if she fails, I still expect this cycle to be broken with this iteration.)

I'm also thinking the silver vine gag is going to be silly rather than inappropriate, if it ends up acting like catnip

I think that's pretty obvious? I have no idea where the people in this thread are coming up with the idea that something lewd or gross is going to happen.

joined Jan 14, 2020

Sides when they grow up together wouldn't they pretty much be just like sisters?

They're not growing up together. Elsa is a lucky guest for a short while, but doesn't even know Yvonne's name. They'll be separated soon enough.

Which, in turn, supports the speculation that the "villainess system" is just a particularly insidious mare.

A 'mare' capable up throwing Yvonne's family into political disgrace when she disobeys it?

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joined Sep 21, 2020

That foreshadowing a few chapters back… when Elsa found Yvonne sleeping in a cat like position.

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joined Nov 2, 2013

this manga is off the rails

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joined Oct 2, 2021

I for one welcome Evie the catgirl .
I think Elsa does too...

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joined Jun 6, 2020

Oh, I didn't think the name they gave would've been of an existing plant, that's cool.

yeah its like super potent catnip

which also made me realize that lol I have actually never seen a 'catgirl high on catnip' plot or thing before

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joined Oct 19, 2021

Don't do drugs, kids.
Also, don't put medicine and candy in similar bags and expect then to not get mixed up :/

Obligatory "common sense isn't actually all that common" warning aside . . .

It's cute catgirl hours y'all

Khancrop
joined Feb 18, 2013

Wait, she's using the cute hijinks possession arc to show how Garth became the stalwart yuri danshi? An unexpected backstory, lol.

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joined Jul 21, 2015

Wait, she's using the cute hijinks possession arc to show how Garth became the stalwart yuri danshi? An unexpected backstory, lol.

yeah he's definitely going to discover what he wants to draw

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joined Aug 29, 2019

Hard to believe it's been 75 chapters already.

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joined Oct 14, 2014

Garth himedanshi origin story

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joined Sep 14, 2015

Is this arc end yet? It took longer than it should.

joined Aug 20, 2022

I know plot is still happening... somehow. They're just so cute and they're just kinda letting them be cute right now lol. And of course, Garth's origin. He's very cute as a kid too.

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joined Jun 30, 2017

Garth will finally find out what he really likes to draw haha

joined Apr 1, 2019

I don't like where the story is heading now. The arc started because people were dying to the Demon, and now we got this! So tone deaf.

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joined Oct 6, 2015

Garth will have an enlightenment next chapter lol

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joined Sep 28, 2021

I can’t believe this is how Garth gets his yuri awakening

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joined Jul 15, 2016

And once again Elsa demonstrates that she is the Heroine by turning the tables on Evie.

Kiarabg
joined Sep 6, 2018

The author better bring this story back around in the next couple chapters… i’ve noticed a thing in Chinese romance manga stories where they’ll have the characters a basically get together, and then start a huge arc that steps back from that in defiance of all sense of pacing. And it always kills my interest in the story. This one has been so great, I hope it doesn’t lose me…

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