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joined Feb 10, 2022

Well this manga lacked explaining the arrow thing. It was supposed that she stopped seeing it cause she found love but even in the end she could still see them. I'm disappointed tbh cause it hinted me that it was gonna end with a 3 way relationship. I'll never understand the reason of the kiss between Sayo and Rinna and the times where Mei said she wanted to be with both of them, and that likes both of them. At least I wanted to see Rinna dating someone, Akane for example. This could have easily been(for me) the best manga with a 3p relationship but it wasnt. It's a bittersweet ending.

joined Feb 10, 2022

I liked this as a final chapter, I don't see why so many people are trashing it like this. Yes, it did feel like the last few chapters were rushed and I can understand the frustration towards the tired time-skip endings, but I liked how Rinna was handled tbh.

Thinking about it again, I'm not sure how a poly ending would have worked, since Sayo not only didn't show any romantic interest towards Rinna, but also got jealous when Mei hung out with other people. She clearly wanted Mei to herself. Perhaps it could have been done if Sayo and Rinna were given more time, but I guess that wasn't the author's (or the publisher's) intention. I definitely would have preferred if the kiss scene between them hadn't existed at all though... As I've said previously, that is a ridiculous trope and I can only understand its use when it actually helps progress the relationship of the characters involved. Otherwise it's just silly and unnecessary.

The prophesied incest 'arrow' finally made its debut in the last chapter. All's well that ends well.

Idk, I didn't read it like that. I went back to reread chapters 12.1 and 12.2 and it just didn't seem like that to me (or maybe it's because these types of incestuous relationships you see in manga seem completely absurd to me lol). I do have to wonder whether the author intended to hint at that with the panel of the two of them though, because it can be a bit hard to tell with this series...

For me at least, that kiss between Sayo and Rinna was the first step for then to love each other. Idk what happened maybe the authors just wanted to get rid of this manga and step back with the poly thing. Even they dont need to love each other to be in a 3p relationship with Mei. Sayo knew Rinna was in love with Mei and the authors could have easily make her share her love with Mei. Sayo didnt feel jealous, she just was feeling left out. Even Mei said she wanted to be with both in 14.1 but it wasnt ok cause of selfishness. If this was intended to finish like this since the beginning then those hints for a poly end and the accidental kiss were not necessary cause it made some of the readers to think of that type of ending. But we will never know. Seems mikami likes this type of manga where the mc have to choose one of out couple of girls so...

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joined Jun 25, 2019

For some reason, even though this was adapted from a novel the story feels so messy and meandering

It wasn't a novel though

joined Feb 10, 2022

For some reason, even though this was adapted from a novel the story feels so messy and meandering

No, the one you're talking about is the other manga were the MC have to choose one between 4 girls. As far as I know this wasn't adapted from a novel.

joined Jan 23, 2017

That was obviously canned. Weak ending to a very interesting premise. Nothing satisfying happened in the end. Most of the side couples didn't get resolution. The main couple didn't even kiss. Stories like this make me wish we had more behind the scenes insight to these things. This is obviously not the planned ending. Rinna got nothing. She didn't even get her idol as a consolation prize though I wouldn't want that to happen out of nowhere. Oh well, another one to the don't revisit pile.

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joined Mar 6, 2021

Sayo didnt feel jealous, she just was feeling left out.

I'm not so sure about that... Obviously she was feeling left out, but I think she always wanted to keep Mei to herself. I agree with your take on the kiss between Sayo and Rinna, it sure gave me the impression that the author wanted to start something between the two. That's why I'd rather they had never included it in the first place, if they weren't gonna do anything with it.

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joined Sep 8, 2019

I liked this as a final chapter, I don't see why so many people are trashing it like this. Yes, it did feel like the last few chapters were rushed and I can understand the frustration towards the tired time-skip endings, but I liked how Rinna was handled tbh.

Thinking about it again, I'm not sure how a poly ending would have worked, since Sayo not only didn't show any romantic interest towards Rinna, but also got jealous when Mei hung out with other people. She clearly wanted Mei to herself. Perhaps it could have been done if Sayo and Rinna were given more time, but I guess that wasn't the author's (or the publisher's) intention. I definitely would have preferred if the kiss scene between them hadn't existed at all though... As I've said previously, that is a ridiculous trope and I can only understand its use when it actually helps progress the relationship of the characters involved. Otherwise it's just silly and unnecessary.

The prophesied incest 'arrow' finally made its debut in the last chapter. All's well that ends well.

Idk, I didn't read it like that. I went back to reread chapters 12.1 and 12.2 and it just didn't seem like that to me (or maybe it's because these types of incestuous relationships you see in manga seem completely absurd to me lol). I do have to wonder whether the author intended to hint at that with the panel of the two of them though, because it can be a bit hard to tell with this series...

-Her supernatural power gone
-Not explained
-Poly was hinted
-Think It doesn't work
-Want to run a normal 1-1 relationship but they get doesn't get proper romance chapter
-Most chapters are dropped towards other side characters with this Student council using her to solve the problems
-But not enough chapters for the main characters again
-No kiss, time skipped, and friend-zoned

Idk how do you people like this but who am I to judge? I am sure it is not something I would recommend considering how bad and rushed the ending was.

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joined Oct 22, 2021

What buildup ? If you want to contradict me then make an argument, don't just say "you're wrong lol". Peoples talk about a buildup but i don't see anything that look like a poly build up outside of the poly chapters. The others were just about a Love triangle.
I tell you my two cents: Almost nobody was thinking about a poly ending seriously before the poly chapters.They just get their hope up after the Poly chapters but if you read the chapters, there was no build up or hint to a poly ending after those chapters. Peoples just wanted to happen but there was no promises. The author never chicken out of a poly ending or was a coward because they probably didn't think about it or even let hints (which ones btw ?).
I never ever said i don't like Polyamory, i just dislike Poly resolution for a Love triangle. I've read some poly doujins and i liked it. Hell, i didn't say anything about the Poly Teachers didn't I ? Trust me that if i really didn't like Poly i would have talk about that.

"Poly" route suggesting pages:
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/if_you_could_see_love_ch3_1#3
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/if_you_could_see_love_ch5_1#13
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/if_you_could_see_love_ch5_2#5 and the following pages
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/if_you_could_see_love_volume_1_extras#11
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/if_you_could_see_love_volume_1_extras#12
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/if_you_could_see_love_ch6_1#4
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/if_you_could_see_love_ch7_2#30
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/if_you_could_see_love_ch7_2#32
whole chapter 8

That means we had a poly-suggesting page in every second chapter before it became obvious it was going to go full on sayo (ch 10).

  1. If a story that has X chapters has a whole chapter dedicated to poly relationship in an older person with similar circumstances, the most common story structure does indeed imply the same thing will happen again. All these stories on this website of girls going to school X as their mother did, and then meeting a special "friend" etc, etc.

  2. The story did not end after the original confesion from Sayo, so people expected something new to happen. Especially with hints of everyone-loving-everyone earlier on

  3. That being said, everything after ch. 10 definitely went full on sayo route.

last edited at Feb 13, 2022 8:20AM

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joined Mar 20, 2015

Why must the good die young

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joined Aug 19, 2018

And with that, I can now move on.....

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joined Oct 22, 2018

And it's done. It was a nice and enjoyable ending, even if it wasn't what I was expecting half a series ago.

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joined Apr 25, 2021

I saw this coming but not like this, ending felt rushed however this was an enjoyable series

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joined Jun 25, 2019

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/if_you_could_see_love_ch3_1#3

If anything, it support my view on Rinna liking everyone.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/if_you_could_see_love_ch5_1#13

That means we had a poly-suggesting page in every second chapter before it became obvious it was going to go full on sayo (ch 10).

How many of this was interpreted as such BEFORE the poly chapter ? Almost none. You see as suggested AFTER the chapter. If it was really suggested, you would have pick up the hints before the poly chapter happen. Seeing this as poly hints is just people wanting a poly ending after seeing the poly chapter and squeezing every little hints they can, no matter how bad they are.

Forgetting the page before she talk about wanting friends.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/if_you_could_see_love_ch5_2#5

Again, for her it's about friendship, not love.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/if_you_could_see_love_volume_1_extras#11

I clearly see the two arrows going for the same person and for fuck sake, they're roommates. Of course they see each other in the morning

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/if_you_could_see_love_volume_1_extras#12

Again, they both think of the MC, not of the others.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/if_you_could_see_love_ch6_1#4

don't even see what buildup you see here

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/if_you_could_see_love_ch7_2#30
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/if_you_could_see_love_ch7_2#32

Again, Rinna falling in one with anyone and ffs do you remember what happen to that freaking arrow at the end of chapter 8 ? Not existing.

If a story that has X chapters has a whole chapter dedicated to poly relationship in an older person with similar circumstances, the most common story structure does indeed imply the same thing will happen again.

Yeah and there was a whole chapter dedicated to aromantic, power balance. Why are they less likely to be the ending than Poly ? See that's my problem, there was multiples forms of love, yet peoples just focused on the Poly one.

The story did not end after the original confesion from Sayo, so people expected something new to happen

A lot of stories didn't end after the confession, doesn't mean they bring another route on the menu.

Like i thought, those are rather weak arguments for Poly and can be easily interpreted differently.

last edited at Feb 13, 2022 9:01AM

joined Feb 10, 2022

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/if_you_could_see_love_ch3_1#3

If anything, it support my view on Rinna liking everyone.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/if_you_could_see_love_ch5_1#13

That means we had a poly-suggesting page in every second chapter before it became obvious it was going to go full on sayo (ch 10).

How many of this was interpreted as such BEFORE the poly chapter ? Almost none. You see as suggested AFTER the chapter. If it was really suggested, you would have pick up the hints before the poly chapter happen. Seeing this as poly hints is just people wanting a poly ending after seeing the poly chapter and squeezing every little hints they can, no matter how bad they are.

Forgetting the page before she talk about wanting friends.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/if_you_could_see_love_ch5_2#5

Again, for her it's about friendship, not love.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/if_you_could_see_love_volume_1_extras#11

I clearly see the two arrows going for the same person and for fuck sake, they're roommates. Of course they see each other in the morning

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/if_you_could_see_love_volume_1_extras#12

Again, they both think of the MC, not of the others.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/if_you_could_see_love_ch6_1#4

don't even see what buildup you see here

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/if_you_could_see_love_ch7_2#30
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/if_you_could_see_love_ch7_2#32

Again, Rinna falling in one with anyone and ffs do you remember what happen to that freaking arrow at the end of chapter 8 ? Not existing.

If a story that has X chapters has a whole chapter dedicated to poly relationship in an older person with similar circumstances, the most common story structure does indeed imply the same thing will happen again.

Yeah and there was a whole chapter dedicated to aromantic, power balance. Why are they less likely to be the ending than Poly ? See that's my problem, there was multiples forms of love, yet peoples just focused on the Poly one.

The story did not end after the original confesion from Sayo, so people expected something new to happen

A lot of stories didn't end after the confession, doesn't mean they bring another route on the menu.

Like i thought, those are rather weak arguments for Poly and can be easily interpreted differently.

The whole story was weak that's why you feel it like that

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joined Mar 28, 2021

i feel like poly ending would’ve worked with like 20 more chapters

joined Jan 6, 2017

I feel like mono ending would've worked with like 20 more chapters

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joined Jun 9, 2018

One of the most beautiful yuri I've ever seen, though I honestly hoped they'd show us Rinna with another girl. Although it is possible they end up in a relationship similar to that of the teachers. Definitely one of the best treesome yuri I've seen, I wish more yuris or handled in this way. any treesome recommendations similar to MoshiKoi???

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

Oh come on...

Really it seems weird that the author would drop so many hints at a polygamist ending, only to wind up having her pick one in the end. I can’t help but wonder if the publisher decided to pull the plug on this one, and the author got worried they wouldn’t have enough time to bring Rinna into the relationship, so they just went with the generic end.

Yeah, the poly hint dropped multiple times that this ending felt really out of place especially how the author decided to do time skip likely because it was axed by the publisher lmao.

Certainly feels like this, yeah. I mean, people can say what they want, but I've never seen as many people here express that they expected a poly ending as for this series, not even for series that actually got one. This clearly shows that there were enough hints towards such ending here for so many of us to pick up on them.

joined Feb 10, 2022

It's funny that "An easy intro to love triangle" would have been better with a mono ending with Rin and Mayuki rather the 3some, and that this one would have been better the 3some rather the mono route lol Even the drama thing in luminous blue its ending was ok not expected but ok since it was a win win. Btw do you know of another manga with poly? I read futari to futari too tho its h

joined Sep 28, 2017

Welp this sucked. Seriously. I really liked this work at first but went downhill at the speed of light. Glad it's over, unless we got a extra chapter that will surely be equally irrelevant and unsatisfactory.

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joined Jun 1, 2020

My greatest issue with the way the plot panned out is not the lack of a threeway ending, although that was my preferred route, but the way it was handled and how practically every other potential thread of a plotline was dropped for the sake of the current ending, and how there were so many loose ends that were plainly unsatisfactory either due to their halfhearted resolution or to the complete absence of one. Most glaringly is Rinna, they didn't even show her whole face on the final page, where the fuck did that come from?

I'm very much inclined to believe that this is the work of an axe, a chainsaw, even, a chainsaw firing machine gun, even, and operating under this assumption I can somewhat let things slide, but the series should have, could have, and very much needed to have gone on for longer, there are no two ways about that. There was a lot to develop, explore, and dive into, most importantly to me would've been potential developments in the dynamic between Rinna and Sayo, which was well over the stage of a mere idea already.

Now, having blown some steam and despite the above negativity, I can definitely say that ending and resolution aside, this has been a wonderful read. Very wholesome and heartwarming, with very endearing characters and great dynamics among and between them, and terrific art style. I enjoyed it a lot for the substantially greater part of its runtime, and this cannot be taken away despite the bitter taste left in the end.

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joined Jul 21, 2015

No poly ending? True cowardice

Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

Underwhelming end to a largely underwhelming manga. The gimmick was an okay idea but afterwards it waffled about a bit and that was that then. Not exactly memorable or particularly interesting aside from 1 or 2 moments.

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joined Oct 20, 2017

It was cute but a bit underwhelming. It's not the time skip or the ending for me. I just don't feel like I really got to know the main trio, even after 3 volumes.

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joined Aug 14, 2020

I'm actually surprised she really did just stay a friend. Really thought they'd go Harem route. Regardless still 11/10.

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