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joined Jul 29, 2017

I never quite understand complaints about “lack of progress” in series where the couple starts out together.

Sure, I get the desire to see more physical intimacy between characters, but in episodic stories about high school kids there’s a lot more comedic material to be generated keeping things fairly chaste than in ramping up the skinship or, as in this case, normalizing their public relationship.

“They’re dating but it’s a secret” is the whole founding premise—when that goes away, it’s likely that the whole series goes away (which may be where the presence of Abe-chin is pointing anyway).

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joined Sep 1, 2017

What's the female equivalent of a "cock block?" "Clam slam?" "WAP slap?"

Clam jam

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Duke
joined Jul 29, 2017

"A thin premise, endlessly restated" -MST3k

joined Mar 8, 2016

I never quite understand complaints about “lack of progress” in series where the couple starts out together.

Sure, I get the desire to see more physical intimacy between characters, but in episodic stories about high school kids there’s a lot more comedic material to be generated keeping things fairly chaste than in ramping up the skinship or, as in this case, normalizing their public relationship.

“They’re dating but it’s a secret” is the whole founding premise—when that goes away, it’s likely that the whole series goes away (which may be where the presence of Abe-chin is pointing anyway).

Progress is essential to storytelling. There are more ways for a story to progress than "Girl meets girl. They become a couple. The end."

Personally, I find the "dating but it's a secret" framing device tiresome. We've never seen any evidence that any of their friends or family would react poorly to the idea of them dating. Their extreme caution to avoid even stuff that non-coupled female friends would do with each other seems at odds with how generally pleasant their world is. We get it, they're young and nervous but that is the area where they should be growing.

This is never going to be a story that deals with the reality of being gay in Japan - it's much more fantasy along the lines of the Kase-san series. So in that vein it would be nice to see them make strides in being comfortable with who they are and be able to enjoy each other's company more openly. Stories about lesbian couples don't have to only be about how they got together - straight couples certainly aren't limited to that. They can be a couple and deal with life around that and still have funny, relatable stories to participate in.

I actually really like this manga for the characters and the art style. I just wish the author would realize that they've outgrown the framing device and it's time to do more with the characters.

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

I actually really like this manga for the characters and the art style. I just wish the author would realize that they've outgrown the framing device and it's time to do more with the characters.

Well, with graduation coming up and the talk of possibly moving to Tokyo, it looks like we are actually starting to see more.

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joined Jul 22, 2017

Oh no! She's cute!

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joined Aug 1, 2011

Well, so much for a date

There's no reason she couldn't bugger off for a few hours after their tour. If it was one of the other girls it might be difficult to justify splitting up, but since they already know she's gay, and she seems to realize she's third wheeling, it shouldn't be too unreasonable to say "Hey, could we meet back up at the train station in a few hours?"

Actually, depending on how the timeline lines up, it's possible her girlfriend is in Tokyo and she already intends to bugger off as soon as possible.

Mask
joined Jan 6, 2015

A double date would be fun too. I'd just be happy if they got a friend they could openly talk to at this point.

joined Jun 7, 2019

A double date would be fun too. I'd just be happy if they got a friend they could openly talk to at this point.

i want them to have a double date too!!
it would be so cute and nanoha and chidori would be around people with whom they feel comfortable

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

Nanoha has a new rival - the library.

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joined Oct 22, 2018

TBH, despite my love of history, I didn't really make the decision what I'd do about uni until like the last few days before enrollment season, and even now I'm not fully decided which profession within the field would I go for, so I can kinda relate to Nanoha in regard to not being sure about my future.

That aside, I really hope Nanoha and Chidori come out to Abe about their relationship lol

NuclearStudent
joined Dec 13, 2018

it's okay, chidori, you just need to believe in the final victory

Fishy
joined Oct 19, 2020

Ah, the good ol "what I wanna do with my life". Fortunately, I had my path set on CS since I was fairly young, but even with that, after some time, I couldn't escape the feeling that virtually no 18-years-old knows what they want to do, because they don't have enough experiences to make the decision. It would be perfect to wait at least a few more years to make the call, but at the same time, you can't because you will fall behind. A really weird point in one's life.

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joined Mar 4, 2018

Now they can go to brand-new places and "hide" their relationship. Best to cut bait and face a brand new world.

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joined Jul 6, 2020

I really really hope they come out to Abe and can finally have someone to confide in... choosing colleges is tough, especially when it means being hundreds of miles away from your friends and loved ones. I hope they can find something that makes both of them happy.

Random Wanderer
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joined Dec 3, 2016

I graduated from university 16 years ago, and I still don't know what I want to do with my life. :/

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joined Nov 21, 2020

Abe-chin and Yoshida-senpai are dating, and it's not a secret.

Time for our protagonists to take a hint, perhaps?

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joined Apr 20, 2013

Okayyyyy, can someone explain me what's going on please? I paused this after the "Ex" girl came back around ch30 or so, I thought "I'll give it time to deal with this potential drama" but I never expected this would have 90 chapters by now! are they still in school just doing random things ? are there side couples now being developed? Is just very rare for a yuri series to go over 50 considering they were dating from the start and the cast isn't too big.

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joined Nov 7, 2014

Serenata posted:

Okayyyyy, can someone please explain me what's going on please? I paused this after the "Ex" girl came back around ch30 or so, I thought "I'll give it time to deal with this potential drama" but I never expected this would have 90 chapters by now! are they still in school just doing random things ? are there side couples now being developed? Is just very rare for a yuri series to go over 50 considering they were dating from the start and the cast isn't too big.

The side couple thing is something that came up quite awhile back and only just resurfaced. (And looks like it could be the driving force for some development possibly.) As for where they are currently, their relationship hasn't really changed much but they're getting to the point in their school lives they have to start thinking about college and they're currently considering how that will affect their relationship.

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joined Apr 20, 2013

Thank you! I was keeping this as my emergency food ration, and with MD out of service for a while, one could say that Toki wa Kita! but with so much content ahead, I didn't know what to expect

Ricowow
joined Dec 23, 2020

Oh, my frickin' lordy Lou, why don't these two useless lesbians just admit they wanna do the thing already?!

Half joke, I love this series to the moon and back. And I respect the girls for trying to keep the relationship pure....but something's gotta give sooner or later. XD

Random Wanderer
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joined Dec 3, 2016

No bit about Nanoha's dream being to be Chidori's wife? Aww.

Relax, girl. Yes you should think about this, but not to the point of overthinking yourself into depression. The two of you can work together to figure things out.

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

What Nanoha wants is simply to be with Chidori. ^_^

Stardusttelepath8
joined Oct 15, 2014

This is the Monado's power

Cornonthekopp
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joined Jul 6, 2020

Okay I think it’s great that Nanoha wants to be with Chidori in the future but that’s not a great criteria for picking a college/career. Even if you’re always together forever it’s not a great idea to choose college or career based solely on wanting to be with someone. There’s no guarantee that your interests match that well. But I guess they still have a lot of time to decide. Hopefully Abe (or the senpai she’s dating) can give Nanoha some advice that helps her find her own groove.

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