Is it gay to watch lesbian porn with your homies

Not gay, just awkward. Watching porn, of any type, is a solo activity. Or a pregame warm up for a couple's sport.

Watching lesbian porn with your male homies would make you... Bi? Whether you are male or female...

H A U S posted:

Aaand just as expected. sigh

You were the one who brought moderators into this so I'm not sure what you expected

Nya-chan seems to have in this forum huge powers that the rest of us have not.

You overestimate my influence.

I've just been a regular poster here for the past 6 years, as you can see from my postcount. I don't even know, or talk, with the site staff or moderators and I'm not the girlfriend of anyone of note.

I just rarely give reason to the staff or moderators to find fault in my posts, because I stick to the rules and I try to never get personal (happened once or twice though, because I easily get pissed off when I'm attacked ad-hominem).

If you disagree with my opinions, feel free to find counter arguments and we can have a civil conversation. If you just want people you disagree with, or you find dis-likable for whatever reason, to shut up, sorry, that won't happen with me.

Anyway, besides the choices of translation, this manga is pretty well drawn and the girls are cute, so it's okay, but the premise raises brows, because of the money involved and because it shoves the yuri in the face, like some unavoidable fate of that girl.

I hope the author gives a reason as to why the MC should be attracted to girls in the first place, because one doesn't become gay by reading yuri manga and watching lesbian porn, contrary to what some people would like to make you believe.

Oh my god less than a week in and they're watching lesbian porn together

I love it

In anime and manga, isn't it kind of unusual for minors to watch any sort of porn, similarly to how they rarely consume alcohol

I'm glad I can still enjoy this despite the forum debaters having a fit. Some people don't mind hentai themes in their yuri and this one having 10 pages of discussion just mean people aren't happy it didn't suit their tastes cuz let's be real, there is way more problematic and nasty shit than this manga right here on dynasty.

In anime and manga, isn't it kind of unusual for minors to watch any sort of porn, similarly to how they rarely consume alcohol

Well... it's pretty unusual for them to be watching it, but it's practically compulsory for any high school boy to have a stack of it in his possession, as illustrated here... though this turns out not to be such a typical example.

Nya-chan posted:

I've just been a regular poster here for the past 6 years, as you can see from my postcount. I don't even know, or talk, with the site staff or moderators and I'm not the girlfriend of anyone of note.

I just rarely give reason to the staff or moderators to find fault in my posts, because I stick to the rules and I try to never get personal (happened once or twice though, because I easily get pissed off when I'm attacked ad-hominem).

It's kind of funny to think about too, given how many times you clashed with Nezchan in the past. I'm surprised you made it this far. Come back to IRC, we miss you!

I just rarely give reason to the staff or moderators to find fault in my posts, because I stick to the rules and I try to never get personal (happened once or twice though, because I easily get pissed off when I'm attacked ad-hominem).

Anyway, besides the choices of translation, this manga is pretty well drawn and the girls are cute, so it's okay, but the premise raises brows, because of the money involved and because it shoves the yuri in the face, like some unavoidable fate of that girl.

That's so cool. Now, you have already stated your views on this translation, and the concerned translators made clear they don't agree. It's pointless to go on about it as you do. Stop, and all will be even more cool.

And it's good that you try to never get personal, but the other extreme should be shunned too. We should avoid bashing whole groups of women because of their life choices, k?

You need not reply, but if you must, take it to the cafe. Better there than here.

H A U S posted:

Aaand just as expected. sigh

You were the one who brought moderators into this so I'm not sure what you expected

Nya-chan seems to have in this forum huge powers that the rest of us have not.

Their identity had literally nothing to do with my decision on the matter. I'd already made said decision before going and checking who Akiji was even replying to. Any other user making the same post Nya-chan did would have been excused for making that post.

"what is this, unlimited breadsticks?!"
Incredible. Why aren't we talking about this it's amazing

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The first chapter I thought this might be fun. Now I'm not so sure. It kind of feels like the old style behavior modification treatment the psychogists gave gay people, to try to make them straight, only in reverse. I also don't like how Fuwa keeps pushing the money in Marika's face to make her do things she doesn't want to do. It gives the story a bit of rape-y vibe.

It's not really like that. Marika was always gay but she's deep in the closet and all Aya is doing is making her admit it (and choosing her as her girlfriend). Aya has a fine tuned Gaydar and knows Marika was gonna do some stupid shit, so she took advantage of that to try and show her da wae. Her methods, however, are pretty dubious but it's not like Marika can't just leave the situation since (at least in the LN) Aya makes it clear that she could just take the money and not do any work. Marika stays because, deep down, it's what she wants but she's a prideful tsundere and admitting that she's been wrong would be a blow to her ego and invalidate all of the energy she's spent protesting. The reason it feels rapey, tho, is just cuz dubcon and tsundere don't go well together.

I'm sure that the author was going for something benign. Howevere it's hard for me to ignore the similarities between Aya's tactics and the 50's style psych treatments of gay people, and stories I've heard about Girls Gone Wild producers practices of isolating girls and pressuring them into doing things they don't want by waving money in their face.

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In anime and manga, isn't it kind of unusual for minors to watch any sort of porn, similarly to how they rarely consume alcohol

Well... it's pretty unusual for them to be watching it, but it's practically compulsory for any high school boy to have a stack of it in his possession, as illustrated here... though this turns out not to be such a typical example.

Huh, yeah, that's true. That makes this gap more odd, since it's illegal to sell both alcohol and porn to minors, though the minimum age may not be the same.

I've heard about Girls Gone Wild producers practices of isolating girls and pressuring them into doing things they don't want by waving money in their face.

That's like... the definition of Gay for Pay ?

I really don't have any problem with somebody deciding to have sex for bucks just like I don't have any problem with somebody deciding to have sex for fun. Well I just don't have any problem with having sex, period.

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KasexYamada posted:

I've heard about Girls Gone Wild producers practices of isolating girls and pressuring them into doing things they don't want by waving money in their face.

That's like... the definition of Gay for Pay ?

I really don't have any problem with somebody deciding to have sex for bucks just like I don't have any problem with somebody deciding to have sex for fun. Well I just don't have any problem with having sex, period.

Err, no, I don't think it's the same. Pressuring young people into doing things they don't want to - notice if they wanted to, you wouldn't have to pressure them - then profiting off of that coercion, seems rather different than a fully consensual financial transaction. (Though, I don't think the situation gets much better if there's no profit involved.)

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oh my god this is absolutely hilarious, I'm mildly worried about the noncon implications but I think I'll keep going until further notice

I've heard about Girls Gone Wild producers practices of isolating girls and pressuring them into doing things they don't want by waving money in their face.

That's like... the definition of Gay for Pay ?

It's more like the definition of capitalism.

Guy with dough pressuring people into doing things they don't want (like work for him) by waving money in their face. Do it, you get the green. Don't do it, you can't pay your bills. (Let's see how long you survive without home and food!)

Sex work is mainly different in that it pays about five times more than an average job.

I've heard about Girls Gone Wild producers practices of isolating girls and pressuring them into doing things they don't want by waving money in their face.

That's like... the definition of Gay for Pay ?

I really don't have any problem with somebody deciding to have sex for bucks just like I don't have any problem with somebody deciding to have sex for fun. Well I just don't have any problem with having sex, period.

It's not really about the money. It's about using the money as a way to pressure someone into doing something they don't want to do.

On one hand, Marika's comments on homosexuality are less her actual thoughts and more a calculated choice to go along with her friends. And by the second chapter she's clearly falling already just from feeling Aya close to her, no matter how much she protests. I do agree it may be a bit much to bring out porn, though, especially this early in the game. Might also be technically illegal, not that I'd expect people their age to have no interest in such things or not to secretly watch them anyway - but it goes against Aya's claims that a man might have gotten Marika into crime... The way Aya goes about things here, even if she says she wants to savor the journey, she may as well be doing this. Honestly, even Mai is clearly doing this better, but they both really should be taking things slower. Mai is doing far better at making her target fall on the friendship days, and Aya likely could actually "savor the journey" and get there just by closer skinship instead of this silly forced yuri education.

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The first chapter, I was thinking this would be more of a silly and absurd take on the "I bet I can make you fall in love with me" type of narrative, just with an added gambling element for the sake of I suppose...flare? However the second chapter is honestly just offensive? A straight girl is supposedly going to become gay...by being hugged while watching lesbian porn...

Just, what even.

Edit: Is this manga just this meme/joke comic?

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The first chapter, I was thinking this would be more of a silly and absurd take on the "I bet I can make you fall in love with me" type of narrative, just with an added gambling element for the sake of I suppose...flare? However the second chapter is honestly just offensive? A straight girl is supposedly going to become gay...by being hugged while watching lesbian porn...

Just, what even.

Edit: Is this manga just this meme/joke comic?

My guy, she's not straight. Marika is gayer than the sun is hot. She's just in the closet and has too much pride to admit otherwise because admitting she was wrong would be a blow to her ego.

Is it gay to watch lesbian porn with your homies

Hell no, as long as you say "no homo" at the end that is

My guy, she's not straight. Marika is gayer than the sun is hot. She's just in the closet and has too much pride to admit otherwise because admitting she was wrong would be a blow to her ego.

From what I understand it seems like she was doing these things for the sake of money, and an "easy win", but it's entirely possible I missed something.

My guy, she's not straight. Marika is gayer than the sun is hot. She's just in the closet and has too much pride to admit otherwise because admitting she was wrong would be a blow to her ego.

From what I understand it seems like she was doing these things for the sake of money, and an "easy win", but it's entirely possible I missed something.

Well, she certainly hadn't considered she might be swinging this way before all this, but her reactions every time Aya gets closer to her clearly show she's already falling for her even without the need of Aya's "education".

My guy, she's not straight. Marika is gayer than the sun is hot. She's just in the closet and has too much pride to admit otherwise because admitting she was wrong would be a blow to her ego.

From what I understand it seems like she was doing these things for the sake of money, and an "easy win", but it's entirely possible I missed something.

Well, she certainly hadn't considered she might be swinging this way before all this, but her reactions every time Aya gets closer to her clearly show she's already falling for her even without the need of Aya's "education".

Yeah I suppose that's true. I mainly thought the author intended her reactions and inner thoughts to be due to Aya's "education", and pushiness. So that's why I thought the author was really pushing for a conversation angle, and it rubbed me the wrong way. Again though, maybe I misinterpreted the author's intent.

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My guy, she's not straight. Marika is gayer than the sun is hot. She's just in the closet and has too much pride to admit otherwise because admitting she was wrong would be a blow to her ego.

From what I understand it seems like she was doing these things for the sake of money, and an "easy win", but it's entirely possible I missed something.

Well, she certainly hadn't considered she might be swinging this way before all this, but her reactions every time Aya gets closer to her clearly show she's already falling for her even without the need of Aya's "education".

Yeah I suppose that's true. I mainly thought the author intended her reactions and inner thoughts to be due to Aya's "education", and pushiness. So that's why I thought the author was really pushing for a conversation angle, and it rubbed me the wrong way. Again though, maybe I misinterpreted the author's intent.

There's also the fact that the LN does nothing but keep showing her constantly thinking and feeling gay things but then constantly denying she's actually gay because of her obsession with normality and upholding the pride she has that's keeping her from admitting she's been resisting for nothing, cuz that would be a massive blow to her ego

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