I just feel like people are too harsh on both characters, given their ages, and hints about their background, they are flawed characters with hino-san has 0 socialize skill (I do interpret her sometimes pushy attitude as her lack of skill of reading people emotions, gestures, etc) and koguma-san 0 sense of self. I give benefits of the doubt for both characters because they do GROW. that is important than taking the characters at one point of the manga timeline and do psychoanalysis on them as if they are fully functional adults.

That's true, but I'll reserve my final judgement on the following chapters. If the following chapters shows that they've grown with Hino being more careful with Koguma's feelings then it'll be all good. And Koguma has shown in ch32 that she can somewhat stand up for herself and refuse one of Hino's demands even with the threat of her skipping class, hopefully she can maintain this growth and refuse Hino the next time she went too far.
But the problem is with these SoL mangas there's usually minimal or no character growth and this stuff will just be forgotten. What usually happens is the two will completely forget about this so the next time Hino has an opportunity to do something even more creepy she would have already forgotten about this [Pissing Saga] and will just do said creepy stuff without hesitation and Koguma will just obey Hino without trying to stand up for herself again.

Also, why's everyone so freaked out, don't men pee together all the time?

Because men usually don't mind being watched peeing by other men so it's fine. If Koguma don't mind being watched peeing then it'll be fine too but the problem here is that she clearly doesn't want to be watched.

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Mangadex is using "Hino-san is a dummy" as english title but she keeps saying "Jerk!" ... I can't deal with this

Because men usually don't mind being watched peeing by other men so it's fine. If Koguma don't mind being watched peeing then it'll be fine too but the problem here is that she clearly doesn't want to be watched.

She was not being watched tho. And again, she didn't ask her to wait for her outside.

Everybody's peein all the time. Do you know what happens if someone sees you peeing?

ABSOLUTELY
NOTHING

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I mean, it was bad enough that Koguma couldn't face Hino the next day, at least until Hino guilt tripped her (which, btw, she also did to coerce Koguma into letting her come into the stall). Unless Koguma is into this stuff (humiliation fetish...?), Hino is knowingly manipulating and exploiting her.

Having said that, they have made it explicit that Koguma isn't just doing this because she feels responsible, and she clearly has other "normal" friends, aaaand she was the one who suggested doing the cat thing again... So I honestly think she's just an oblivious unawakened pervert.

TheWidow-Sensei posted:

Everybody's peein all the time. Do you know what happens if someone sees you peeing?

ABSOLUTELY
NOTHING

One or two people awaken a new fetish

Anjelika posted:

It's kinda a cultural thing, so, people, don't judge.

That's a 'yikes' too. Just what kind of warped conception of Japanese people lives in your head? If you took any random person off a street in Japan, odds are extremely high they're not a toilet fetishist.

If you took any random person off the street in any country, odds are rather high that they don't have any fetish at all.

I just mean that it's a fetish more often depicted in Japanese fiction than others, because of cultural reasons. I won't go into every details, but Japanese and toilets have a "special" relationship.

There's even a whole Wikipedia page about it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilets_in_Japan

will they start dating already?????

If you took any random person off the street in any country, odds are rather high that they don't have any fetish at all.

Someone needs to visit the Kinsey Institute website and read a few reports.

I'm, personally, much more concerned about Hino's "I won't be able to go living if you hate me" phrase. idk I really don't like when people say things like that. It looks to me as if they try to keep the person around making them feel bad if they leave them. But whatever. I don't think that's what happened and I'm just digging into it too much.

Hnnnngggg.....ohhhhh....yeah......that's the stuff.

the way some of you sound like you'd think Hino held up a fucking knife to Koguma's throat to force her into the toilet rather than "threatening" to stop holding hands. It's like calling it physical abuse when someone says they'll bop someone on the head for keeping a secret.

At this point I think some of you should just stop reading this.

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the way some of you sound like you'd think Hino held up a fucking knife to Koguma's throat to force her into the toilet rather than "threatening" to stop holding hands. It's like calling it physical abuse when someone says they'll bop someone on the head for keeping a secret.

At this point I think some of you should just stop reading this.

No, but they need to complain more about perceived threats even though Hino apologized for going just a tad too far and Koguma was ok with most of what happened anyway and is super into most of what Hino does even if she doesn't admit it.

Can't complain if they aren't reading.

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Hino herself kept acknowledging that she had always gone too far, and Koguma isn't less than guilty since she'd just goes along with it. With the element of these girls (or at least Hino knew) being self aware of every actions that had been done, there's always room for character developments and I'm hoping they could make something work out. Though, it's probably gonna be a while, not like I'm complaining. More of this manga is always a plus.

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aren't we ever gonna accept the fact that characters in fictional works aren't supposed to be perfect?

;A;

EDIT: Damn near gave me a heart attack when I read this, but now that I think about it, it's probably just a joke.

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aren't we ever gonna accept the fact that characters in fictional works aren't supposed to be perfect?

Hino and Koguma are perfect though.
For each other.

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I'm, personally, much more concerned about Hino's "I won't be able to go living if you hate me" phrase. idk I really don't like when people say things like that. It looks to me as if they try to keep the person around making them feel bad if they leave them. But whatever. I don't think that's what happened and I'm just digging into it too much.

I mean it's exactly what happened. I doubt Hino did it with guilt-tripping Koguma in mind but people who employ this kind of self-flagellation often are entirely sincere and are just oblivious to how it's unfair to the people they hurt to suddenly make them turn around and comfort you for feeling bad about hurting them.

Wuooohhhhhhh yeah I thought something like this would happen XD well, not exactly as I thought it would happen but I'm glad I used spoilers (besides, half of my prediction is still on the air).

Impressive, there's no misunderstanding at all now... They really want to take this into the sexual stage, and I don't think she's going too far, I think they're going further and further into it at their own pace, and I think some people here are upset only because they haven't say "we're dating, it's official" but you know not all the relationships start with words.

And I agree with @Minalinsky , if this is too heavy for you... Just... stop, like, is THAT easy!

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Is this going to end in this volume, like in two chapters or so?

minor error in ch 31, pg 5 was fixed

Is this going to end in this volume, like in two chapters or so?

Probably not (plus the part at the beginning of chapter 33 was a joke) but the update is sure as hell gonna slow down now because one more chapter before being up to date with the raws. Dang it.

Do you really think that kinniku tarou would draw hino-san suck on koguma boobs scene?? I don’t think so..

I really like how this moved from Hino bullying Koguma to Koguma's actions making Hino blush and freak out. It's a lot sweeter like this.

sigh enjoy being held back, Hino... your laziness f**ked up our yuri series.