Forget about "Mary Sues" or whatever the bad writing here is excising entire chunks of really important context that need to then be appended at the end by a third party in order for the story to be coherent. I have to assume this isn't intended to be a standalone adaptation but rather a supplement to the novel.
Are these the same couple from the other chapters? If so, the fact that they're 17 and 23 respectively is... something I would've liked to have known. No idea why y'all are so chill about this revelation lmao
It's definitely sleazy but I just kind of gloss past it unless it's especially gross about it because cutting out all of the yuri media that is sleazy would mean cutting out most of it because Japanese media is just Like That.
Yoroizuka is a classical INTJ (in Myers-Briggs typology): efficient, brutally honest, and bad at interpersonal relations and assessing others' feelings. Her intro scene is a perfect picture of an INTJ at work: she points out her colleague's mistake, loses interest in her immediately, takes over her work and completes it in 1/10th of the time, before her other colleague is done lecturing her -- which she also has zero interest in. The other example is her complete nonchalance to her GF sneaking into her house: she walked in, saw her standing there, immediately figured out what happened, and lost any interest in the situation. From personal experience, I can tell that 90% of her brain power was still engaged with work at that point. Only when her GF proposed the lap pillow did she mentally switch to the here and now because it was a completely new experience for her. Still, a control freak like all INTJs, she completely ignored the possibility of receiving a lap pillow and instead immediately offered her GF one, remaining firmly in control of the situation.
Myers-Briggs is about as scientifically substantiated as tossing a hand-full of bones and divining the future from them. Judging ppl (or characters in this case, but what you wrote sounds way too elaborate to not be applied to actual living ppl too i'd wager) based on these personality quiz categories is a gross negligence at best. Gives me the heeb's
Myers-Briggs is astrology for nerds who think they're too smart for astrology.
People who fight over whether a character is a top or bottom always annoys me so much because it’s just ascribing random personality traits to sex positions, and acting like top and bottom are these two immutable and incompatible identities. And it bleeds into real life too, where some people just lay down and expect someone else to do all the work for them becuase “they’re a bottom” or people getting insulted for not “acting like a top”
Any of yall seen that screenshot of a grindr convo where someone actually said “ew, tops don’t use exclamation points, they’re supposed to be dark and brooding”
Seriously, it's just a weird reinvention of gender roles based on something that's somehow even less representative of your personality than gender. Enjoying anal doesn't mean you're an "uwu soft boy cinnamom roll uwu" or whatever the fuck it means you like taking it in the ass.
Yeah, the comic is implausible. Absurd, even. People aren't wrong for pointing this out, and if it takes you out of the story, that's a legitimate POV.
It's also true that it's just a comedic manga, and it's okay to not take it too seriously. Both of these things are valid perspectives based on personal preference and opinion about what kind of stories you like to read. It's okay to want stories to have some grounding in reality, it's also okay to like stories that are batshit insane.
The thing I can't countenance are the people in this topic who are like "Oh, no, this is plausible, you guys, some girls just hit puberty a little early!"
Citation needed, motherf---ers. ;p Yeah, some girls hit puberty early. They might be a little taller than average. And have a relatively buxom figure. They might even plausibly pass for a short teenager.
They're still children. They're not 170 freaking cm tall with tits bigger than their head. This premise has no grounding in reality. It's okay if you like that, but don't get so defensive about it that you ignore reality. This girl is like 20cm above the top of the range of what is considered normal for her age. That's not an early bloomer, that's gigantism.
Yeah, "This is actually a realistic representation of any 10 year old who has ever existed" is not the stance to take as to why this character is okay. This character is okay because how absurd their existence is is the primary joke of the series. I really doubt the author is expecting me to find this person who entirely looks like a grown ass woman being actually 10 years old believable.
Yeah this is one of those "This is a more realistic interpretation of a yandere" which is... so much less fun than a zany cartoon yandere
Yeah, the closer a character's behaviour is to like mundane real world behaviour the more likely I am to feel the same way about them as I would a real person which in this case means I feel repulsed and like I don't want to read about this character anymore. Terrible people need to be terrible in an outlandish fashion for me to suspend my disbelief enough to like them.
I don't even read this to get off it's just one of those pieces of smut that is a good time to read just because of how good it is. Also, I don't even know why I love the fact that Kaya was perfectly normal (and in fact rather prudish) before seeing senpai masturbate awakened something in her that turned her into an insatiable little lust goblin as much as I do but it's definitely my favourite little touch this sequel added to her character.
Isn't decapitating punishment because sneaking into heaven is a difficult thing to do? How does "capital punishment because it's something easy" make sense?
... on the other hand, just because it's difficult doesn't make it a more heinous crime either, I guess ^^;
Easy to commit crimes require harsher punishments to dissuade people from doing them I guess is the mentality here. It's of course an insane mentality but that's par for the course with how heaven operates here.
I for one am absolutely checking in on the comments every so often to see if this series deviates from the tone set in the first few chapters in a way that would actually make me have any interest in reading it and I definitely appreciate those brave souls who stick around to let me know that no it does not so I can save myself the trouble.
The thing is, sometimes you need to be on the nose so your point will get through to people. Being subtle is fine and all, but not only it can go over some people's head, but others will make a point to ignore the subtlety if the message carried goes against what they want/value.
Just take yuri. When writing such a story in a subtle way, a lot of people will ignore all the hints to assure you that "nope, they're obviously just friends". While an actual kiss will makes it harder to argue against (and yet, some might still find ways to rationalize it to fit their conceptions).
Yes, this is a caricature, overly exagerated, but the underlying point is valid. Women, especially in japan, are still often considered as just there to get married, have kids, then take care of them while the husband go earn money to provide for the whole family. Carrierist women in Japan are too often frowned upon. It's slightly better in western countries, but frankly, there are still ways to go. And the more women tries to fend for themselves, the more they tend to be pushed back.
In all time, satire has been a way to bring to light painful truth that a lot of people would rather see kept to the shadow. To me, it feels that this manga is kinda the same. You have to take it with a grain of salt, as it's exagerated, which is what caricature is, but that doesn't mean the underlying point is moot.
This is a very good post. Plenty of satire is about as subtle as a brick to the head because the point isn't to be subtle the point is to point at a shitty aspect of society and yell "This fucking sucks!" And yeah I'm sure that's annoying if the thing they're yelling about doesn't hurt you personally and you were perfectly happy ignoring it but it's also cathartic for a lot of the people that it does to have that problem recognized and denounced and maybe even get some escapist fiction where someone fights against it and wins that isn't cloaked in plausible deniability to make it more marketable.