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https://macadate.wordpress.com/2019/02/27/bloom-into-you-talk-event-beyond-the-last-stop-report/

Partial translation of a report on the 2/26 open talk event with Nakatani, Kusunoki, & 4 other major anime staffs and producers.

Pretty interesting, and, at some moments, funny... But what really caught my mind was how they described Nakatani's beauty somewhat resembling that of Miyako (is there a video recording of what's been put into this report?), but also there's what short description they gave of Kusunoki... Should I take that as a sign that Nakatani and Kunosoki are actually dating, or...?

Yeah, I somehow managed to confuse myself...

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Kuso TL: https://m.imgur.com/a/irSHm4H

I love it how Yuu went from lying to herself, to dealing with the fact that she's heartbroken, to getting a glimmer of hope as she receives Touko’s message from chapter 38. Another reason to look forward to April!

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joined Oct 22, 2018

My re-reading of the manga came in handy for a certain sentence in this whole Doujima - Akari convo happening in the thread

I'm not certain what deeper moment you refer to.

Chapter 27, pages 9 - 19.

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Mint
joined Jun 5, 2015

Gudetamago posted:

^ I dunno why you're getting hung up over a side couple that will just be developed in the background and never take center stage. It was kinda obvious that they would be paired up from ch 27 as well as hints from ch 30 and Nakatani anthology commentary page. I'm glad this is how she approached it actually, just casually referencing their possible growing relationship in the background instead of dedicating any major focus on them. I hope it stays that way because who cares about those two really. it's ok that you don't like Doujima or the idea of him and Akari together, but meh, I wouldn't get too worked up over those two's relevancy.

Maybe because everyone praises this manga as being subversive and really well written. So you can't criticize parts of the story, if they are not relevant and/or don't play major role? Then why it's in the story in the first place if it's pointless? It isn't about them being relevant or not, but idea itself.

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joined Dec 18, 2016

Maybe because everyone praises this manga as being subversive and really well written. So you can't criticize parts of the story, if they are not relevant and/or don't play major role? Then why it's in the story in the first place if it's pointless? It isn't about them being relevant or not, but idea itself.

They are relevant thematically as showing another side of romantic relationship in juxtaposition to Touko & Yuu's relationship. Akari's love story has always been portrayed in parallel to Yuu's in the form of Yuu looking to Akari's love life to reflect back on her own (ch 4 with the idea that love grows over time & you can keep loving someone till they return your feelings, ch 27 with the rejection and heartbreak, & now with the idea of being able to move on from your heartbreak/crush to find a new love). What I meant by their relevancy is their focus. I didn't discourage the other member from their criticism on the idea behind the couple, but because they mentioned how they hoped Nakatani would handle Akari & Doujima's dynamic better if she was gonna have them together, to which I think isn't really a concern because I don't think those two will actually get any major focus other than these sorts of background developments.

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joined Feb 18, 2018

People should count their blessings. A bad scenario would be if Sayaka gives up on being a lesbian after her 2nd heartbreak and couples up with Dojima.

LMAO

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People should count their blessings. A bad scenario would be if Sayaka gives up on being a lesbian after her 2nd heartbreak and couples up with Dojima.

LMAO

Oh, please, give the woman some credit—Ichigaya the dreamy acting coach would be a far more appropriate match.

Besides, Koyomi’s the one who’ll make a move on Dojima. Lol

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People should count their blessings. A bad scenario would be if Sayaka gives up on being a lesbian after her 2nd heartbreak and couples up with Dojima.

LMAO

Oh, please, give the woman some credit—Ichigaya the dreamy acting coach would be a far more appropriate match.

Besides, Koyomi’s the one who’ll make a move on Dojima. Lol

I unironically think Koyomi and Doujima could have made a good couple of opposites. Too bad the guy is already taken~

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People should count their blessings. A bad scenario would be if Sayaka gives up on being a lesbian after her 2nd heartbreak and couples up with Dojima.

LMAO

Oh, please, give the woman some credit—Ichigaya the dreamy acting coach would be a far more appropriate match.

Besides, Koyomi’s the one who’ll make a move on Dojima. Lol

I unironically think Koyomi and Doujima could have made a good couple of opposites. Too bad the guy is already taken~

Well, Koyomi has always been the side character who is closest to my heart (cute, smart, creative, and sensible making for a winning combo in my book), while Doujima is . . . the opposite of that.

So while my head must acknowledge the validity of your idea (it’s where my joke originally came from), my heart says if that vulgar little twerp even comes near Koyomi with romantic intentions, I’m calling the police.

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When all is said and done I hope we get to see Yuu and Touko come out to Yuu parents or just having a open relationship without needing to hide things so they can have the good and accepted type of relationship Yuu sister and her bf have. For the two to be able be a coupe and spend time/nights at each others house would be great.

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When all is said and done I hope we get to see Yuu and Touko come out to Yuu parents or just having a open relationship without needing to hide things so they can have the good and accepted type of relationship Yuu sister and her bf have. For the two to be able be a coupe and spend time/nights at each others house would be great.

If they come out to anyone, better start with friends, I think. They sort of, kind of, technically already did to Sayaka and Maki. I think it won't be hard to come out to Koyomi (the play she wrote has a yuri couple, afterall) or Doujima (a fellow student council member); of course, people like @BugDevil (did I spell the username correctly? I forgot if there was an underdash in it or not) and myself are also shipping Midori and Manaka, so it comes as no surprise that I'd think that coming out to them would be easy. This just leaves Akari and Natsuki as people I don't know what they'd think of. I think they're gonna accept, but there have been little to no hints of that.
Now, the next best bet (even better than some of those in the previous paragraph) would definitely be Rei. She already guessed what was going on, and already decided to support her sister, and I think Hiro might be in the same boat, too. Rei did mention that her and Yuu's dad might initially be opposed, but eventually convinced, but that their mom is the actual problem about all that, and their grandma would surely side with her daughter (Yuu and Rei's mom), so I'm not sure how they'd go beyond that. I honestly have no effing idea what will Touko’s parents think about it, so I can only hope for the best.
Still, by far the most likely adults to be accepting of that are, of couse, Riko and Miyako, themselves a lesbian couple. This still leaves Ichigaya in the "I'm not sure wether they will support or not" category, but he's kinda leaning more to the "will" side of that spectrum.
Aaah, can't believe I wasted over 20 minutes for this post!

EDIT: Hopefully, it'd be worth it.

last edited at Mar 2, 2019 5:01AM

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Lots of Doujima hate here, huh? Poor guy is just honest with himself and isn't afraid of getting shot down for it. These carefree and and fun types aren't bad at all. His comments are not mean-spirited and it's better that he is open about them than doing it behind people's backs. You always know where he stands.
I'm not gonna bother replying to all those claims tho, because I'm not the Doujima defense squad. lol

Now about the chapter (which I read somewhere else again. Too slow Dynasty!)
Just as expected, Yuu showed all the signs of typical escapism after a heartbreak. I feel like anyone could have told her that, really, but it held a bit more weight with Maki, because the position she tries to flee into is the one he already stands in. So he can easily tell her the truth how it is. I am actually surprised to see his inner reflection show that he has regrets for being aromantic. He always seemed so contend with his lot until now. I suppose it's impossible not to envy something you can never have.

Haha, that running shot at the end makes it almost look possible that my wish of Yuu tackling Touko halfway to the meeting happens. I'm glad Nakatani is doing this the right way, with them meeting halfway and both having made up their minds, rather than a silly "Touko must win Yuu's heart and trust back" arc. This is the kind of story where even the predictable outcomes are emotional.

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People should count their blessings. A bad scenario would be if Sayaka gives up on being a lesbian after her 2nd heartbreak and couples up with Dojima.

LMAO

Oh, please, give the woman some credit—Ichigaya the dreamy acting coach would be a far more appropriate match.

Besides, Koyomi’s the one who’ll make a move on Dojima. Lol

I unironically think Koyomi and Doujima could have made a good couple of opposites. Too bad the guy is already taken~

Well, Koyomi has always been the side character who is closest to my heart (cute, smart, creative, and sensible making for a winning combo in my book), while Doujima is . . . the opposite of that.

I relate strongly to Doujima, he clearly has a good heart! I was very similar to him as a teenager, obnoxious comments and all. Even though I'm a woman lol You need to be a bit more forgiving of youth.

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This just leaves Akari and Natsuki as people I don't know what they'd think of. I think they're gonna accept, but there have been little to no hints of that.

Is Natsuki the short-haired girl with a dog? My gaydar tells me she ain't straight and used to have a thing for Yuu. Maybe she is Sayaka's promised bride lolz

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People should count their blessings. A bad scenario would be if Sayaka gives up on being a lesbian after her 2nd heartbreak and couples up with Dojima.

LMAO

Oh, please, give the woman some credit—Ichigaya the dreamy acting coach would be a far more appropriate match.

Besides, Koyomi’s the one who’ll make a move on Dojima. Lol

I unironically think Koyomi and Doujima could have made a good couple of opposites. Too bad the guy is already taken~

Well, Koyomi has always been the side character who is closest to my heart (cute, smart, creative, and sensible making for a winning combo in my book), while Doujima is . . . the opposite of that.

I relate strongly to Doujima, he clearly has a good heart! I was very similar to him as a teenager, obnoxious comments and all. Even though I'm a woman lol You need to be a bit more forgiving of youth.

I wasn’t forgiving of youth even when I was a youth. Especially then, actually.

I don’t really hate Doujima, he’s just the only on-panel character in the story (except for the lazy ex-stuco president) who’s kind of a jerkoff. As you say, he’s a basically good-hearted one, though.

He still needs to stay away from Koyomi if he knows what’s good for him.

EDIT: Dead on about Natsuki, although all clear-thinking people have kind of a thing for Yuu.

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Doujima certainly isn't the classiest dude around and definitely acts pretty boorish at times, but OTOH for all his shameless ogling of the hot sempais I can't remember him ever being anything but well-behaved and friendly in his actual interactions with the girls and we have every reason to believe he's handling his SC duties with due diligence and competence. (Can't really picture Touko and Sayaka keeping him around if he didn't, anyway...)

In short a basically decent chap with some mildly irritating quirks. P sure we've all met those at some point.

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joined Aug 26, 2018

This just leaves Akari and Natsuki as people I don't know what they'd think of. I think they're gonna accept, but there have been little to no hints of that.

Is Natsuki the short-haired girl with a dog? My gaydar tells me she ain't straight and used to have a thing for Yuu. Maybe she is Sayaka's promised bride lolz

It's spreadiiiing like the common flu! Everyone's lez now!
Joking side, I just made a joke about Manaka and Midori being a thing two pages back and this isn't any less farfetched lol

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While I also definitely got a “not entirely straight” read from Natsuki, let me amend my overly glib remarks to say that it’s perfectly possible, and in fact probably more common than not, for gay people to be friends with someone they they think is attractive yet not “have a thing” for their friend. Necessarily.

It’s me who has a bit of thing for Yuu. ‘Cuz she’s so cute and sweet.

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joined Aug 26, 2018

While I also definitely got a “not entirely straight” read from Natsuki, let me amend my overly glib remarks to say that it’s perfectly possible, and in fact probably more common than not, for gay people to be friends with someone they they think is attractive yet not “have a thing” for their friend. Necessarily.

It’s me who has a bit of thing for Yuu. ‘Cuz she’s so cute and sweet.

It's the tomboy look, isn't it?
Natsuki's sexuality aside, I see merit in what you are saying. Though it's a bit hit and miss, because as you probably know from your own life, you don't necessarily pick friends based on how attractive they are, even if it's the gender you are sexually interested in. It's a bit odd to say that gay people are different in that regard.

Yuu is pretty amazing, no denying that.

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It’s me who has a bit of thing for Yuu. ‘Cuz she’s so cute and sweet.

TBH personally I'm a bigger fan of her mischievous streak. Nakatani drawing some pretty awesome impish grins may be related... >_>

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joined Aug 26, 2018

It’s me who has a bit of thing for Yuu. ‘Cuz she’s so cute and sweet.

TBH personally I'm a bigger fan of her mischievous streak. Nakatani drawing some pretty awesome impish grins may be related... >_>

Yeah that's also my favorite aspect of Yuu. Her nonchalant teasing and mischievious attitude towards friends is very nice.
If you look at Nakatani's Touhou stuff, she did a really impish Reimu. It's great~

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Agree with the above about the mischievous Yuu, probably for the same reason I have a soft spot for Aoba’s mildly-sadistic-senpai streak in New Game. A form of gap moe, I guess.

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Agree with the above about the mischievous Yuu, probably for the same reason I have a soft spot for Aoba’s mildly-sadistic-senpai streak in New Game. A form of gap moe, I guess.

Well aside from well-done snark and mischief simply being entertaining to watch that adds depth and variety to a character. "Nice guy/girl" characters without some quirks and sharp corners are bland and boring.
Such also only too readily come across as wet-noodle pushovers; case in point and to exaggerate only slightly, if Yuu didn't whimsically push back a bit against Nanami every now and then she'd mostly just look like one of those cliche shoujo-manga heroines whose about only attributes tend to be Mary-Sue pureness and severe lack of initiative and agency...

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When all is said and done I hope we get to see Yuu and Touko come out to Yuu parents or just having a open relationship without needing to hide things so they can have the good and accepted type of relationship Yuu sister and her bf have. For the two to be able be a coupe and spend time/nights at each others house would be great.

If they come out to anyone, better start with friends, I think. They sort of, kind of, technically already did to Sayaka and Maki. I think it won't be hard to come out to Koyomi (the play she wrote has a yuri couple, afterall) or Doujima (a fellow student council member); of course, people like @BugDevil (did I spell the username correctly? I forgot if there was an underdash in it or not) and myself are also shipping Midori and Manaka, so it comes as no surprise that I'd think that coming out to them would be easy. This just leaves Akari and Natsuki as people I don't know what they'd think of. I think they're gonna accept, but there have been little to no hints of that.
Now, the next best bet (even better than some of those in the previous paragraph) would definitely be Rei. She already guessed what was going on, and already decided to support her sister, and I think Hiro might be in the same boat, too. Rei did mention that her and Yuu's dad might initially be opposed, but eventually convinced, but that their mom is the actual problem about all that, and their grandma would surely side with her daughter (Yuu and Rei's mom), so I'm not sure how they'd go beyond that. I honestly have no effing idea what will Touko’s parents think about it, so I can only hope for the best.
Still, by far the most likely adults to be accepting of that are, of couse, Riko and Miyako, themselves a lesbian couple. This still leaves Ichigaya in the "I'm not sure wether they will support or not" category, but he's kinda leaning more to the "will" side of that spectrum.
Aaah, can't believe I wasted over 20 minutes for this post!

EDIT: Hopefully, it'd be worth it.

I think Touko's parents would actually be pretty easy. I think after them having to watch what Touko put herself through and the self imposed suffering she has dealt with I think they would just be happy to see Touko find some happiness and someone who will care about Touko and support her in ways they weren't able to. In whatever form it comes as long as it is safe.

Doujima certainly isn't the classiest dude around and definitely acts pretty boorish at times, but OTOH for all his shameless ogling of the hot sempais I can't remember him ever being anything but well-behaved and friendly in his actual interactions with the girls and we have every reason to believe he's handling his SC duties with due diligence and competence. (Can't really picture Touko and Sayaka keeping him around if he didn't, anyway...)

In short a basically decent chap with some mildly irritating quirks. P sure we've all met those at some point.

Doujima is this series version of Suguru Kashiwagi from Maria Watches Over Us. Everyone loves to hate on him because he is a very male character in a mainly girl focused cast series that they see as a threat to their female characters relationships. He shows some regular male behavior(Not saying only males can act like that.) like how Suguru is shown as being a bit arrogant/overconfident and crass(sp) and everyone locks on that and completely ignore how caring he is and how extremely protective he is of Sachiko and Yumi including Touko(Maria watches Over Us one). There are some stuff in the LNs that get left out in the anime that would really impress people how far he is willing to go to protect Yumi on more than one occasion. Doujima is the same way. He is shown to have the behavior of a typical teenage boy but is also shown to never actually do anything bad towards the girls and is even shown to be really caring when he comforts Akari after she find out the truth about the guy she liked.

Btw is there a way to quote more than one post at a time without having to just copy and paste additional one?

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joined Oct 22, 2018

Alright, after a long hard while of reading a manga I just discovered yesteday, and then an even longer harder while of studying, I can now take the time to reply to what I've missed in the meantime.
First: the comments about Natsuki.
Why didn't I take the same mental gymnastics BS classes as you guys? laughs a bit I'm kinda envious.
Second: these more recent comments about Yuu.
Yeah, I kinda like Yuu's mischievous and teasing scenes, too. Some of the teasing ones actually ended up being some of my favorite, due to how funny I found them, most especially the one where she briefly called Touko "Touko-senpai". However, I must confess that one of the other things I like about Yuu is one that was just given on a very irrelevant page in some of the bonuses, which is that she drinks milk straight outta the tetrapack at times, something I also sneakily do from time-to-time.

EDIT:
After taking a short break from Dynasty Reader for dinner, I drank milk from the tetrapack again.

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