Oh fuck off Japan, calling 52.6kg overweight for an adult woman. God I hope no one reads this as a serious weight-loss manga over there, they'll bloody kill themselves.

While I agree that it's probably be better to deal with a more average person, a weight in the lower 40s of kg isn't unusual for a serious, young, female, long distance runner. If they'd said she was a gymnast, if probably would have been more believable, but still not an average person for sure.

And yes, there is a disconnect between the kind of training that a long distance runner does to get there, and the kind of low calorie diet plus light exercise that this manga is using, but that doesn't mean that everything held within is bad advice.

The recipes themselves seem pretty normal for diet food.

Okay, so having translated the next chapter, which begins with Ritsu celebrating upon reaching 49.8 kg, re-reading the first chapter, noticing something amiss and double-checking the RAWs, it turns out that I had done a translation goof and she actually wanted to get down to "40kg代" i.e. the 40.0-49.9kg range, as opposed to exactly 40kg.

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Okay, so having translated the next chapter, which begins with Ritsu celebrating upon reaching 49.8 kg, re-reading the first chapter, noticing something amiss and double-checking the RAWs, it turns out that I had done a translation goof and she actually wanted to get down to "40kg代" i.e. the 40.0-49.9kg range, as opposed to exactly 40kg.

You forgot to say "Teehee Pero ;P"

don´t quote me on this, but i´m pretty sure that the pain and sore muscles are a given when you train and you gotta suck it up, keep training with the same intensity until you get used to it and then you increase the intensity again. Maybe i´m all wrong , that´s how i used to train

don´t quote me on this, but i´m pretty sure that the pain and sore muscles are a given when you train and you gotta suck it up, keep training with the same intensity until you get used to it and then you increase the intensity again. Maybe i´m all wrong , that´s how i used to train

You're half right. It is an inevitability to get sore muscles, since the microruptures of the muscle fibers that make you feel sore are promote muscle growth. But you definitely shouldn't tough it out and train through it. Rest days are important, your muscles need time to regenerate and grow. Otherwise you'll just hurt yourself.

You're half right. It is an inevitability to get sore muscles, since the microruptures of the muscle fibers that make you feel sore are promote muscle growth. But you definitely shouldn't tough it out and train through it. Rest days are important, your muscles need time to regenerate and grow. Otherwise you'll just hurt yourself.

Yeah ofc resting and knowing your limits is important, training 7 daya a week at full itensity is a big no. What i was triying to say is that if you train with the idea of avoiding pain, you 're probably not gonna improve nor lose weight in a meanigfull way

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What i was triying to say is that if you train with the idea of avoiding pain, you 're probably not gonna improve nor lose weight in a meanigfull way

Cool slogan. If only there was a way to shorten it to, say, four words?

Oh fuck off Japan, calling 52.6kg overweight for an adult woman. God I hope no one reads this as a serious weight-loss manga over there, they'll bloody kill themselves.

While I agree that it's probably be better to deal with a more average person, a weight in the lower 40s of kg isn't unusual for a serious, young, female, long distance runner. If they'd said she was a gymnast, if probably would have been more believable, but still not an average person for sure.

And yes, there is a disconnect between the kind of training that a long distance runner does to get there, and the kind of low calorie diet plus light exercise that this manga is using, but that doesn't mean that everything held within is bad advice.

The recipes themselves seem pretty normal for diet food.

She's not a long distance runner anymore though, and rapidly dropping to the weight-class of one without the physical exercise side of the regiment sounds superbly unhealthy, especially since it seems like they're dieting mostly through food management. (They're doing some physical exercise thankfully, but it's all pretty light weight.)

When I think about it more, the fact that she lost about 5kg in a month without seemingly doing any kind of "real" exercise slightly worries me that she may in fact be eating too little to compensate. It's of course possible that she lost the weight healthily, but I wouldn't recommend real people try to mimic her regiment expecting similar results.
(Especially since they were apparently aiming to get her down to below 49kg by now, which would definitely have been an unhealthy amount of weight loss.)

The fact that the average japanese woman's weight is 57kg really puts into perspective how misguided I think her goal of getting below 49kg is.
She doesn't seem to be smaller than anyone else in particular, and 8kg below the average person is definitely a level of difference that needs particular circumstances to be warranted, such as being a long-distance runner's or having an otherwise very active lifestyle.

She is perfectly healthy and not at all overweight at a mere 52kg, she even managed to compete with her wife gal pal in a race despite the wife gal pal being healthy and in-shape. If you're truly overweight then racing against someone who's not isn't a matter of "Oh I can still win I'll just ache in the morning," if you're carrying like 8 extra kilos on you, you would need to have proportionally stronger muscles to still be faster.

The more I analyze the details of this manga, the more I begin to question if the author of this even knows what being overweight means. Almost every part of it is screaming "tehe toxic japanese weight culture" to me, from perfectly healthy people being "overweight" to weight goals being cripplingly underweight to dramatic weight losses being considered "unsuccessful and below expectations."

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Anything under 60 for a even a petit adult can't be considered overweight surely.. It's been a long time since I last looked at bfp and bmi recommendations so even what I just said should be taken with a pinch of salt. I am just uncomfortable with someone calling a grown adult of near feather-able weight, "overweight."

This still isn't classed as at least Yuri crush when Ruka literally had a food wet dream about Ritsu. I guess that can still technically be seen as subtext.

It could be that she's 4'10" and has a BMI of 24.2 which is kind of close to a BMI of 25 which would be overweight.

I don't think it's likely, it might be that the author has a narrow perception of what a healthy weight is. Which is kind of surprising since the note this chapter that restricting too heavily can set you back is completely accurate.

Oh looks like this one will be ending soon if she made weight.

I hope these two get together, but fuck if the weight loss theme isn’t nauseating

The two kouhais are totally gonna be overweight and nothing she remembers them :D Either that or they'll challenge her to a race, something she didn't prep for!

Oh my God they booth look stunning and that close up was SUPER YURI, weird that the manager didn't react.

Ritsu looks good at any size.
Still slim ver. is pretty nice.

Oh fuck off Japan, calling 52.6kg overweight for an adult woman. God I hope no one reads this as a serious weight-loss manga over there, they'll bloody kill themselves.

While I agree that it's probably be better to deal with a more average person, a weight in the lower 40s of kg isn't unusual for a serious, young, female, long distance runner. If they'd said she was a gymnast, if probably would have been more believable, but still not an average person for sure.

And yes, there is a disconnect between the kind of training that a long distance runner does to get there, and the kind of low calorie diet plus light exercise that this manga is using, but that doesn't mean that everything held within is bad advice.

The recipes themselves seem pretty normal for diet food.

I'm reminded of a scene in Sword Art Online in which Asuna and her mother Kyouko log into ALO, the latter for the first time. Kyouko remarks that her avatar feels light, and Asuna says that's natural, since the avatar weighs about 40 kg. They then get into an uncharacteristically lighthearted debate over who's "fat" in real life(which Asuna notes is the first time she's had a conversation about nothing with her mother). Because of that, I found that 40kg as an end goal was rather light, although noting that it's the low end of Ritsu's desired range makes sense.

I'm reminded of a scene in Sword Art Online in which Asuna and her mother Kyouko log into ALO, the latter for the first time. Kyouko remarks that her avatar feels light, and Asuna says that's natural, since the avatar weighs about 40 kg. They then get into an uncharacteristically lighthearted debate over who's "fat" in real life(which Asuna notes is the first time she's had a conversation about nothing with her mother). Because of that, I found that 40kg as an end goal was rather light, although noting that it's the low end of Ritsu's desired range makes sense.

For an adult woman to weigh 40kg in real life without being cripplingly underweight, she would need to legally be a dwarf.

Literally. The legal definition of dwarfism is anyone below 147cm (4.82ft), and the point where weighing 40kg becomes not cripplingly underweight is 146cm (4.79ft). It's honestly kinda disgusting that 40kg is even included in the "range" as a possibility when only someone with dwarfism could possibly weigh that little without being a skeleton.

Her previous weight point of 52kg was perfectly healthy by all accounts both for a woman of average height in japan as well as someone below average.

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The avocado and soy milk hotpot honestly doesn't sound too bad.

How is literally everyone in this manga so damn hot.

Nothing wrong with that first outfit. In fact, give me more of that!

L-L-Lads-


I-I-IS THERE STILL HOPE?!

I-I-IS THERE STILL HOPE?!

Never seen a reason to doubt.

I love the way each chapter of this series invariably ends with a food scene. Reminds me of many NSFW series where the first 3/4 are plot but you can always count on the last quarter as sexual — it’s like that but for food.

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I love the way each chapter of this series invariably ends with a food scene. Reminds me of many NSFW series where the first 3/4 are plot but you can always count on the last quarter as sexual — it’s like that but for food.

... Using NSFW stuff as a reference made me think o food porn..