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Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

Yandere tag needed

I mean, this woman has been very obviously cutting the MC off from any other people since childhood, and that's an extremely psychotic thing to do. So this is absolutely yandere.

Idk she doesn’t seem that crazy
Yet

What part of "Manipulated people and events to ensure that the MC can only ever be with her" does not seem crazy to you

That's literal, real-life abuser behavior. It's extremely controlling and she's been doing it for years

Literally all she's done so far is hang out with her friend and told her parents whenever they did something they're not allowed to do.

Your standards for abusive manipulation are way too low.

Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

Every week, it's an endless stream of people commenting on "oh, it's disjointed", "oh, it's not that good anymore",

Some people suddenly got disinterested once the main couple got together and they sure are vocal about it.

Every week, it's an endless stream of people commenting "it's not hard to follow" and "it's actually perfect, 10/10 no notes"

Some people suddenly don't like how other people are voicing that they're having trouble following the story and they sure are vocal about it.

Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

No other manga has me so consistently disoriented every chapter.

last edited at May 3, 2026 7:55AM

Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

Fax! Spit your shit, brother!

It should be generally accepted fact that autists are incapable of emotions and therefore empathy and are ipso facto all perfectly okay with chopping up dead bodies.

This should be about as much of a self-evident fact like the universal belovedness of Autism Speaks, or like how autists lack critical reflection ability and are therefore unable to grasp the concept or irony. (This is why this comment of mine is perfectly irony-free, I want to be inclusive.)

What's with the random aggression?

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Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

Is it just me or does Yuka feel kinda autism coded?

It's really starting to feel like people will just call any character with a non-standard personality autistic

I feel I have a pretty good basis to do so seeing as I am autistic.

She seems to be rather emotionally crippled and certainly isn't adhering to- or grasping- social norms or expectations, nor does she appear to grasp the severity of her job or situation when faced with sudden social interaction.

Once introduced to the love interest, she seems a lot more fascinated by the human interaction than a normal person would be in the same situation, and the reality and danger of the situation doesn't even seem to occur to her, much like an autistic person with a hyperfixation and no social proficiency.

Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

Well that was a wild ride, not sure it made much sense but I'll take disaster lesbians any day.

Is it just me or does Yuka feel kinda autism coded?

BoobTwinkler
Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

I assume Mamu lives alone despite having a caring mother simply because it's a requirement of magical girls not because of drama or family issues.

...Also, Mamu's mom has totally got it going on.

BoobTwinkler
Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

Adorable domestic yuri, but I have to comment on the bizarre food.

First of all, runny eggs == disgusting fite me, and is that boiled tomato in water they're drinking? It looks like that's what she made and poured into the cups and I can't make sense of it. Whyyy?

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Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

Still on chapter 1 but I have to comment on the sheer whiplash and crazy casual delivery on "Your potions are famous in the entire country, here're all your thank you letters! Oh btw there's a witch hunt yo, half our friends have been burned alive."

...You didn't think to lead with the witch hunts!?

Edit: Finished up to the latest chapter, man that was a lot more mature subject matter than I expected with the juvenile humor and comedy tag.

The glimpse of Rea on https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/witches_and_cigarettes_ch11_2#4 along with her doll-like design and tendency to be represented by cog shapes make me suspicious her body might be artificial and that's what her head really looks like under a powerful glamour spell, hence her memory loss.

Judging by the other witches' backstories, I expect she got attacked by a mob that either thought they killed her or got uno-reversed by her powers and that's the trauma that gave her amnesia.

...Also Tama apparently used to be a shinobi!?

last edited at Apr 6, 2026 10:57AM

BoobTwinkler
Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

I'm genuinely surprised Meria didn't think twice about that disguise, do lunch ladies just looks like that in Japan?

Coffee flavoured milk? And grade-schoolers drink it?

Coffee is strongly associated with maturity and a lot of kids who are eager to be adults see it as a sign that they're adult.

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Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

I assume her La Verita is meant to be totally random but the way the chapter illustrates it makes it look like it happens every other use, which would make it entirely predictable as long as she has at least 1 friend with her to tell her to refresh.

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Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

In her defense, that is a cool stick.

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Wicked Spot discussion 02 Jan 08:19
Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

Mone who is the only one here who can tell Sadako has a long ass history of murdering people and like you know it's completely fair for her to fail to understand why everyone else is seemingly cool with it.

And like, Sadako isn't dangerous, she isn't malicious, she wouldn't (knowingly) hurt a fly But she sure got a lot of people to stop moving while still hiding in her house. She's really not that scary if you look at her but Mone can see something deeper and that part stinks of death.

Hanako is also not a witch, and thus indeed just a random human the sabbath got involved in all this. Admittedly a weirdly strong magic resistant human but, I'm sure the witchs of Sabbath are glad not to be saying as much right now.

I'm pretty sure she's still going to turn out to be a witch, and her strange resistance is going to have something to do with how hard she's in denial of it. Like, her hatred of being a witch is so strong that it's subconsciously channeled all her power into rejecting all things magical or something, which also had the side effect of passively supercharging her muscles and making her super durable because she's just that full of passive magical energies hyper specialized into protecting her and doing nothing else.

The magical equivalent to the concept of a "martial artist" who's foregone any martial training in favour of building up enough sheer power and stamina to the (inhuman) point where techniques no longer make a difference against them.

last edited at Jan 2, 2026 8:23AM

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Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

Holy crap Reina's mom looks like her younger sister

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Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

This might be the first "Villainess" story I've ever come across where the Villainess in question seems like a genuinely bad person. She's so incredibly self-centered and doesn't seem to have much empathy or compassion for anyone but herself regardless of the situation, constantly making every issue about herself either externally or internally. (That poor maid! What, was she supposed to throw out the literal crown princess and her entire retinue by herself?)

She also seems strangely dumb in regards to people. Like, her only source on "beasts" being sadistic murderers is the prince whom she despises mentioning it while banishing her, yet she doesn't second-guess it no matter how clearly she can see the "beast people" living civilized lives around her. Maybe the man who slandered, banished and tried to assassinate you wasn't a very reliable source of information, huh?

Dog waifu is too good for her at this point, and she's an actual kidnapper, hopefully she grows a heart eventually.

Did anyone else find it strange that her sister, the crown princess who allegedly came there to have her killed, was just sent away from her castle with no fuss by the maid without even making an appearance or requesting to meet the Villainess first?

Nevermind the maid doing it, would the Villainess herself even have the authority to do that against her sister's will? It seemed really contrived that it worked and very strange that the story even included the plot element of her sister coming there in the first place just to not have her even make an appearance and immediately leave off-screen.

last edited at Dec 25, 2025 4:14AM

Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

I do agree that the series should probably not actually be tagged with Yandere unless something changes from here. The alleged Yandere lacks the very specific core thing that defines that archetype of dere; the extreme obsession with someone, and simply being "mentally unwell and violent" isn't close enough in itself imo, that just makes them psychotic.

It's an interesting read for what it is so far though, just not what I expected from the title.

Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

I do NOT "respect" the author's depiction of yandere. Sorry, but if a girl fights back against bullying with violence she is not a yandere!! I do like the story and the dynamics between the characters, but this is not a yandere.
She could only be a yandere if she still enjoyes hurting and obsessing over the villain once their relationship is getting deeper. But we haven't seen any signs of that so far. She doesn't even care about vilainess.
When I saw the tag I almost skipped it too!

It's pretty lighthearted, especially the description of the series. And I like that. I just do not appreciate the use of the term "yandere".

I mean... I agree that the term is inaccurate in this case but it's also not the that big a deal.
It's not like this one story's inaccurate use is going changing the world's perception of the word or anything.

glares at NTR titles, the most inaccurately used term in all of fiction

Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

Also, I don't think that a slap would work, since slaps are still part of the regular "courtly" (for lack of a better term) contexts that Hesha is used to. I think Jolene has bitten her not only because of her impulses, but also because a bite would be so far outside Hesha's normal context, it would flip the power dynamic between them on its head instantly, without giving her any chance to respond. What I am saying is, she knows she could make things much, much worse for Hesha, but repeatedly stops herself in order to deescalate, and Hesha is too myopic to realize she is playing with chemical fire.

I will say thought that I don't agree with the read that anything she's done has been de-escalatory in nature.
If anything, whenever she "snaps" she seems to just do whatever she wants to do in the moment regardless of the implications or the consequences it could have, and it's nothing short of a miracle things have worked out as "well" for her as they have so far.

Cus like... if I managed to antagonize the local princess who literally owns the city I live in and had to make a list of things to do to try and de-escalate things, physically assaulting her in gradually more extreme ways wouldn't make the list if it was a million entries long. If anything, she's lucky Hesha hasn't just gone to her family and had her hanged for assaulting her the first time.

Remember in Game of Thrones, that one time the king had a peasant boy executed just for lightly tagging the prince with a practice sword while playing?

Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

Never watched Dexter, but IMO Jolene has once again been very measured (which is the opposite of crazy) in her response. She used her one advantage (physical capability) to completely shut down Hesha's momentum, then backed off and explained exactly what that retribution was for. Note that Hesha does not carry any ill will against Jolene for biting her, because she seems to have accepted that the bite was a consequence of her own actions. Again, I am not saying that Jolene is not a sociopath, but if she is, she is a very high-functioning one.

A normal person does not bite people just because they're upset at them; if anything, the fact that she felt the impulse to bite her rather than something more mundane like slap her makes it much more abnormal behaviour that most people wouldn't even have considered.

She reads a lot like Dexter is intended to be; a sociopath with violent impulses that they keep in check through adhering to a strict set of rules about what's "proper" both in order to be a functional member of society and so that their violence only comes out towards targets deemed "acceptable."

Specifically, the way she speaks about- and treated "being naughty" towards Hesha implies that she has these thoughts and urges of violence normally, and usually she doesn't act on them because she's come to believe they're "naughty" but in the same way that Dexter has no reservations going after someone who's a "killer" Jolene has no reservations "being naughty" towards someone who has also been "naughty."

So far there's still nothing yandere about her. She has the violent impulses but no obsession, only really targeting Hesha as a reaction to Hesha targeting her rather than having any interest in Hesha herself. Based on what others have mentioned about the series, I don't think the writer knew what a yandere was when they defined her character.

Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

Welp seems like the protag at this point is just straight up Dexter-style crazy

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Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

I've been wondering why (presumably) Riri sent the perfume to Fujiyama in the first place. After all, it's not like she couldn't just go over to her house and ask to hang out, right? I mean, she dropped off the package there.

I can only come up with three explanations:

1) Fujiyama's apartment is dangerous territory for a dark magical girl, considering that her target is flanked by the most badass magical girl ever and a very temperamental magical girl, so being there physically for very long is not a good idea

2) She wanted to guarantee time alone with Fujiyama so there would be no interruptions (unlike last time)

3) Her ability to corrupt and alter things works better in situations of isolation

I strongly suspect it's #2 with #1 being also true, but kind of an afterthought. I'm the least confident in #3 being the case, let alone being true at all.

4) Yandere obsession to be irrationally close to Fujiyama.

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Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

Oh this can get ugly real fast, because aside from masochism, Masono isn't in the best place mentally speaking, I do worry she gets abused outside of her kink if she's willing to meet anyone that gives her any attention online.

Unrelated but sensei was really hot this chapter. Good stuff.

I suspect she's going to end up either hurt or endangered because of it, and Sensei is going to finally engage with her in the way she wants driven primarily by worry that Masono will endanger herself if she doesn't and only like 10% for lust reasons.

Sensei's concerns currently are Masono's health > lust and I expect Masono's biggest hurdle through the whole story is going to be convincing Sensei that her (mental and physical) health is fine enough that it doesn't warrant the caution and leaning into the lust would actually improve it. (Probably not as much as Masono thinks though, realistically they probably need to meet somewhere in the middle)

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Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

I have a feeling Meria's the real deal and she sent Fujiyama the perfume to get into her dreams but Meria threw a wrench in the plan.

That dastardly Meria, ruining Meria’s plans.

YOU SAW NOTHINGGGG D:<

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Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

I have a feeling Riri's the real deal and she sent Fujiyama the perfume to get into her dreams but Meria threw a wrench in the plan.

last edited at Nov 24, 2025 2:33PM

Sleepyfrogwaifutiny
joined Sep 25, 2019

I'mma be honest, I don't see where the Yandere behaviour of the MC is coming from.

It doesn't seem to be motivated by her character, her past or her feelings towards the Villainess, and the first chapter seemed to want to imply that the yandere behaviour happens because she's drunk but then she was only drunk one of the times it's happened.

Yandere doesn't just mean crazy it means crazy and obsessive, but so far I'm only seeing the crazy without any real obsession nor motivation to be obsessive. If anything, she doesn't seem to like the Villainess at all and her crazy behaviour looks more like she's just a bit crazy and it happens to manifest in a way that looks affectionate but she's not actually feeling affection. Rather, so far it keeps looking like she honestly just tries to get back at the Villainess for being such a massive bitch rather than having any kind of yandere obsession with her.

Maybe it grows into yandere affection later?

last edited at Nov 20, 2025 6:30AM