Ayooo that hand going down at the end of page 3 kinda spicy!!

This is another universe Kase san

Page 1 of "chapter" 1 is literally her saying she's a bottom and gets really horny. xD

"Yo, I know you ain't gay, and I ain't get either, but let's do gay stuff together so we blend in better with the gays, okay?"

1. I don't like the guy character. I don't really think he need to be there anymore and is sort of just third wheeling the main two

2. I can't beleive we're still in the "totally don't even recognize our relationship as ever being possibly romantic" and "getting overly blushy over an indirect compliment" stage. Plus, the whole "I don't actually have a crush on her, I just admire her because she looks cool and I think she's brave" bs. I thought we were over those sort of stereotypes in yuri, but I guess this author wanted to do a period piece.

This chapter title got me all excited for finally some sort of development away from the usual sterotypes of the last 20-30 chapters, but it ended up just being gross. I don't care that the token straight guy thinks the girls are cute. Who gives a shit.

Tropes are not stereotypes and stereotypes are not tropes.
One is "preconceived notions or expectations about a particular subject without proper basis to actually make such assumptions" the other is "commonly used narrative scenarios regardless of accuracy; the defining criteria is simply that they are commonly used."

IE stereotypes are bad, tropes are not inherently good OR bad, they merely are.
The examples you "list" in this manga are tropes, not stereotypes, there's a world of difference and there's nothing wrong with them in themselves.

Guess I'll repost this since people are still asking.

Wtf is hatesex

Having sex with someone you hate and/or while being angry at them, the line can be blurry.
Typically the logic is that the intense emotions translate to passionate sex and a fight for dominance in the bedroom, with the outcome acting as fuel for future encounters; where whoever ended up on the bottom last time fights more passionately to get on top next time while whoever was on top fights to stay there.

Can be a toxic relationship but as this particular oneshot demonstrates; does not actually have to involve a toxic relationship inherently.

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Wtf is hatesex

Having sex with someone you hate and/or while being angry at them, the line can be blurry.
Typically the logic is that the intense emotions translate to passionate sex and a fight for dominance in the bedroom, with the outcome acting as fuel for future encounters; where whoever ended up on the bottom last time fights more passionately to get on top next time while whoever was on top fights to stay there.

Can be a toxic relationship but as this particular oneshot demonstrates; does not actually have to involve a toxic relationship inherently.

It's a little rude of them to play our their kink foreplay in public like that though.

I don't think it was intentional foreplay, I think they just got too wrapped up in bickering to realize they worked each other up and said too much in front of other people until it was too late and they'd already done it.

...At which point, since they've already worked each other up anyway, may as well go bang. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Um excuse you, these are not horns they are yuri sensory devices.
They are not weapons, they simply let me know when I'm feeling extraordinarily lesbian thankyouverymuch.

"Shut up dad, the close-ups of bare-assed 13-year-olds are artistically necessary!"

Nice strawman, jackass. This is why cultural evolution is so slow, because people like you take issue with anything that they don't immediately agree with and try to strawman-ridicule it for shits and giggles rather than engage it seriously, because you're just that confident in your obviously "correct" bullshit and ignorant of the fact that you are literally stagnating the human condition.

In other words; you're the reason the dark ages lasted for so long, and why we can't have nice things.

You are arguing something fundamentally different than I am, and it's very frustrating. You're being obtuse.
This story could. 100%. Be written differently. Your argument that it cannot is nonsensical. You can parody magical girls by making them into BDSM, but woe to you if you parody magical girls by ... making them older?

You're also very angry that anyone would question your thought process, which is infuriating. I already said that it is okay this exists, but you keep approaching me from the angle that I'm saying it's not, and that's very disingenuous of you, which makes it a pointless discussion. I was only making a point that people can question why this exists, and you are not in a position to hypocritically take some kind of opposite moral high ground that no one is allowed to object to this based on the character ages and themes.

That is all. I was trying to say. End of my trying to make a rational discussion about this. If you try to argue a point further that I'm not making (including ridiculous notions that this is indeed the "only way" this story could ever possibly be writen), then I'm not going to engage with you on it any further.

The one being needlessly obtuse and besides-the-point here is you, not me. It was I who made and initial statement that you then responded to with arguments that had no actual bearing on it.

I have never said or claimed that people aren't allowed to question why or how this exists, and the fact that you still think that's what you need to defend and argue just means that you still haven't realized as much.

What I did say is that it's supremely ironic that this manga is suffering adverse consequences as a result of people trying to do to it exactly what the moral of the story is that you shouldn't cave to, demonstrating that a chunk of it's readers clearly don't get the point it's making and the behaviour they're engaging in.

It's like reading a book about how book burnings don't work, only to then have a bunch of people who read it try to arrange a book burning of it. It's absolutely comical.

I then also accused you of engaging in that behaviour, but it was technically besides the point and I just got too carried away to notice. I still stand by my assessment that that's very much what you're doing, but arguing about it really is besides the point unless you would like to continue discussing it.

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But nah, kids and sexuality? That's gross, author's clearly pedo-pandering, 0/10 shovel-ware manga.

Just this statement here makes your whole argument fall apart.

Is this for kids? Or is it for adults?
Why does there have to be adult media about kids and their sexual awakenings?
It's an important question to ask, but you refuse to ask it. What kind of audience is is manga looking for? What kind of people are going to read it?

Again, I'm okay with that. You can't say things shouldn't exist just because some people are awful. But it should be criticised, along with any other media that deals with questionable content. It doesn't mean there isn't anything to be admired in it, it means that we should question and allow to be criticised everything we consume, regardless of how innocent you find it yourself.

Those are absolutely absurd questions, and the fact that you're asking them and using them as any kind of basis for why the story is "questionable" betrays the incredibly biased and flawed angle you're coming at the issue from fundamentally. Obviously the story is not for young children. No one was ever arguing that this work could not be criticized, the issue is that a lot of the critique aimed at it is simply pre-judged nonsense, ignorant assumptions about the author's intent or sheer refusal to accept it as "good" in any capacity due to the subject matter.

Why does there "have" to be a story like this? That is a ridiculous question.
No story "has" to exist, and the implication you're making that "creating a story" could be at any point in any way unethical in itself in a vacuum is utterly ridiculous.
Whatever reasons the author has for writing something is utterly irrelevant in regards to the quality of the work itself. NO piece of fiction should EVER be judged or censored purely on the basis of why it was written, it is a complete and total non-factor in the work's actual qualities.

What is relevant is the intentional message it's pushing, what "information" it proports to be true and the sheer objective grammatical and writing quality of the text regardless of contents. And more subjectively, the actual subjective contents such as (for example) "the ways in which the story uses particular concepts to reference- and tie things into the greater theme in a cohesive narrative," but even those things are simply YMMV and cannot be called unethical in themselves. They are techniques of writing.

What you're doing wrong is that you're not actually interested in evaluating this piece of fiction. You've already decided that it makes you uncomfortable and is dubious, and now you're simply looking for reasons to justify that feeling objectively by looking to an aspect of it which is sufficiently ambiguous for you to fill in your own bias into it; in this case "the clearly dubious intentions of the author for making this work at all."

You're in a loop of "This story makes me uncomfortable" --> "Who would write this?" --> "Author must have dubious intent" --> Back to square one.

No one's saying that a piece of fiction can't or shouldn't be criticized, the issue here is that your "criticisms" and questions are irrelevant, biased and illogical to ask; they will always point to the work being ethically dubious because that's the answer they're looking for, and so the questions in themselves are pointless and misguided.

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And just because I really want to point this out even though it's technically besides the point:
Why write a story about young teens discovering their sexuality?

Because A) the issue of one's circumstances pressuring them into denial about themselves and being people they are not at heart actually is relevant to a lot of people even in adulthood, and in fact a lot of people struggling with it will likely emphasize with the characters struggling with it through their youths. If anything, it's cathartic to read a story about characters learning to be who they are in spite of society's pressures while young rather than when they're older.

B) Because like I mentioned earlier, both the genre and the themes of the story work naturally into taking place at the age in life when people really would go through these phases of their lives. Early teens really is when most people begin discovering and exploring their identity and sexuality, and face the problems of feeling ashamed of what they find and consequently trying to hide or bury it out of fear of being judged by others. There is no age more appropriate for this story to take place during than this, and the notion that it shouldn't because some people would rather not read about it is utterly ridiculous.

C) Arguably the most important reason of all; Because teenagers discovering and exploring their sexuality is a subject matter that we culturally as a species have developed an almost dogmatic practice of not evaluating or approaching simply because we feel icky about the subject matter and even going so far as to make ill assumptions about any people who try to. "That guy wrote a novel about a teenager going through puberty! What a DEVIANT! What sort of debased freak would even want to write about such things!?"
This despite it being something that literally all of us go through, how extremely formative it is and how much it goes into shaping who we are both as individuals and as a species in total. It's is a HUGELY important part of practically all human life, and yet we pull away from evaluating or discussing it properly because we're ashamed and afraid of any possible implications or associations that may come from it.
Why SHOULDN'T we be willing to read and write about teenagers developing through puberty? Isn't that definitely important enough that we should explore it? How can we ever get to a point as a society where teenagers aren't pressured into being people they're not for as long as we continue to treat the process as disgusting and immoral to even approach or acknowledge?

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But I did understand what you were saying.
People are allowed to judge a story on its one questionable thing when it's done on purpose. The fact of the matter is, the creator chose the ages of these characters. Could have done just as much of an off-the-wall story with women who had been magical girls for a long time and were now adults, maybe dealing with some repression of their feelings due to having to appear "pure" to be a magical girl all those years. But they ... did not.
It's not like there's just one questionable scene in this story, it's the whole basis of the characters. People are allowed to judge it based on that factor alone. And yes, they will never be able to see the genius of the way the story unfolds just because that character basis is something they find distasteful, even in fiction.

If the writer really wanted to have their work shine and be appreciated by many, they would have made the story differently, but they wanted young girls in their story. They deserve every criticism for that choice regardless of how well-written the rest of the story is.

That's preposterous.
The ages of the characters it not something you could just remove and that would be that, it's so intrinsically relevant to the narrative that aging them up to adults would rip out an entire dimension of the narrative just so some people can read it without feeling uncomfortable.

The characters are young teenagers for multiple valid and important reasons, the main ones being:
A) It's a Magical Girl story and them being a particular age is a genre-staple. It's only appropriate for a parody to feature a cast at that age, and deviating from that expectation is what would require further meta-justifications; not the other way around.
B) It works intentionally (and beautifully) into the story's overarching message/narrative of accepting oneself, one's sexuality and one's flaws no matter what society, other people and even your own notions are trying to shame or threaten you into believing and accepting. The cast are at an age where they would be having their sexual awakenings, when they would be struggling to define themselves and sifting through all sorts of outside factors trying to tell them what is and isn't "right" to be. ESPECIALLY when it comes to sexuality, there is SO much pressure on every single one of us to conform and not be a deviant, with arbitrary and completely nonsensical definitions of "deviant" getting pushed threateningly at us from all angles at all times through life. The age of the cast is the point in time when this pressure is the greatest, it's THE most relevant time of their lives for the story to take place in and for them as characters to learn the important message that they are not "wrong" just because they have certain eccentricities.

(Said "eccentricities" being their kinks and fetishes, because this IS a parody after all, but the principle is just as applicable to any other facet of a person. The fundamental logic is the same for, for example, realizing-exploring-and-accepting one's sexual orientation no matter what one's surrounding family and society may be trying to tell you to conform as. Looking Up To Magical Girls is simply using its exaggerated premise and subject matter for a combination of comedic effect and to emphasize the point of the message with the an outrageous context that stands out.)

It is supremely ironic that this manga is facing issues with people judging it for what they assume it to be without understanding or reading it and for "choosing" to not be something else more palatable to the average person, when the entire moral of the story is to not let anything force you to conform to what it wants you to be rather than accept what you are and living true to it; hardships and hissy-fits from the naysayers be damned.

Anyone judging the story negatively for involving minors exploring their sexualities alone is literally missing the entire point of it, and in the most ironic way possible.

But nah, kids and sexuality? That's gross, author's clearly pedo-pandering, 0/10 shovel-ware manga.

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Imagine if the creator was brave enough to ... not make a sezualised manga about children.
Like, I'm having no problems with it morally because fiction, but you can't complain about this not getting recognition when they have purposely buried their great story in questionable content.

i mostly agree with @Ehhhhhhh, i love this manga but i can't blame anyone who's turned off by the premise

Oh I didn't meant to imply I have any issues with the people who simply don't enjoy the premise and can't get into it because of the contents, all that is totally fair and understandable; I'd never fault someone for not liking or reading something that they simply didn't enjoy.

I was referring more to the dickweasels who don't understand that "refusing to analyze, research and explore something" also means you have no right to judge it. Since, you know, you literally don't know what the hell you're talking about. You're literally refusing to read it or even consider the notion that any of it has any substance or narrative purpose, and take offense at the notion that it could have.

People accusing it of being mere fetish-fuel and pedo-pandering are either malicious moral fanatics or plain ignorant of what they're talking about, and the ignorant are always the least qualified people to speak about anything, much less take an aggressive stance on something and throwing around outrageously severe accusations.

I am already certain that the anime is gonna kick up a shitstorm from lots of people who'll simply assume that CP and porn is what this work simply is, and they won't hear anything else. Trying to discuss it with them will just get them screaming that you're a proverbial witch who needs burning.

To reiterate what I said before; The fact that a story this well written and actually quite heartwarming in it's messages evokes such sheer hatred from a lot of people on principle is simply tragic.

Am I the only one that feels like you guys are taking this a bit too seriously? I thought the vibe was just comedic for the most part, especially considering the Undertale references

Simply pointing out that this was super dark and that fucks with some people so there should be a fair warning about it is not taking anything "too" seriously. This is a manga hosting site, not someone's private Discord. There is no good reason to sucker in readers who wouldn't want to read something into reading something they definitely won't enjoy, whether they're just being "too sensitive" or not is actually besides the point because it benefits no one to do it in the first place. It's like sending people a jumpscare video; totally fine to do with your friends but if you put a jumpscare video hidden in a book frame at a library then you're just an asshole for no good reason.

It's disrespectful and at best, wasting other people's time without giving them a choice in the matter.
Books should be labeled properly, end of story.

We've seen Randa's various body-mods sticking into her actual skin before, they don't seem connected to her magical girl transformation... well, at all. Rather, they seem to be self-mutilation that she just does to herself in general, we just don't see them beneath her clothes because she's placed them strategically to not show them if she doesn't want to.

(Which actually makes perfect sense now that I think about it... why would a presumably "goodness" fueled transformation involve self-mutilation even if it's in-character of the person undergoing it?)

I remember it stood out to me in particular how in the last panel of this page: https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/looking_up_to_magical_girls_ch48#9 we see her partway through transforming and it seems the extensive stichings and piercings littering her body are actually just there under her clothes normally.

Personally, I'm impressed at the author's willingness to portray this particular aspect of a self-loating character in such a visceral and realistic way. Most "edgelord" characters whose whole schtick is how much they don't care about things in general including themselves are typically still never shown to habitually practice any form of self-harm other than outright suicide attempts. Randa, despite being an exaggerated character in an obviously parody-narrative, honestly comes across to me as fairly realistic in essence. Which should speak VOLUMES about the quality of this writing.

...Man, remembering how many people have written this manga off as just fetish-pandering (or worse, BEING cp) is kinda depressing. Literally every time I look into something in this story, there's a red thread to find and a deeper motivation to piece together.

TBH this is definitely deserving of a horror and tragedy tag of some kind.

People really don't tend enjoy getting jebaited with promises of something fun and lighthearted only to get last-minute rug-pulled with horror and suffering even if it's still behind a thin veneer of parody. Personally, the trivia box stating explicitly that the MC is now dead, trapped in her own head but still able to think and feel while being puppeteered around by a crazy yandere necromancer is the point that definitively goes too far to not be tagged more clearly.

I love horror, don't get me wrong, but it's definitely a genre that people should have the basic right to decide to get into rather than having it sprung on them 90% into the narrative when they obviously can't choose not to read it anymore because they've already read it just to get to that point.

I think this deserves some extra tags

Im sure it will get them. On DS they often leave off spoilery tags for a bit on a new story as long as its not something really bad that might trigger people.

This is literally the premise of the story though:
-Random normal person walks into someplace dangerous without realizing it.
-They try to charm their way out of danger, but fail and is instead stabbed to death with a sword through the back.
-Their dead body is raised as a shambling corpse and her mind is locked up inside her head unable to control herself or do literally anything, but still feels the sensations of her walking dead body that she has no control over and is now effectively a slave of the person who murdered her specifically to accomplish this.

The End.

That doesn't strike you as a story dark enough to trigger someone with no fair chance to know what they were getting into?

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Does he even exist? There is no conclusive proof as of yet that there are any men in this world at all.

What is a man? A miserable little pile of secrets!
But enough talk; Have at you!

GO FOR IT MICCHAN, SPOIL YO GIRL!

I might be misremembering things, but when Korisu was first getting introduced, wasn't it implied that there were some problems with her home life, like she was on her own FAR too often or her parents were different? Something about her mother, this chapter, feels off. Not in the sense that she's poorly written, but more in the "there's something going on there," way.

Korisu's mom doesn't seem like a bad person at a glance but that doesn't mean that their living situation can't be terrible beyond her ability to deal with anyway. Japan already has cultural problems with overworking people to the point where a lot of families are effectively living split apart from each other for work- or education reasons.

The disparity you're sensing might come from the expectation that Korisu was being neglected due to her parents not caring enough about her (Which is the more "common" cause of neglect in the western consciousness), while the new chapter instead seems to go down the road of implying that the issue is not that her mom (who seems like a single parent?) doesn't care but rather than she has to work too much to spend time together. (Which I believe is the primary reason for neglect in Japan but I'm not an expert so don't quote me on that.)

Both situations are still Korisu being "neglected" just for entirely different reasons and the latter meaning that her mom isn't strictly (necessarily) at fault. We really don't have much information to go on at this point though so it could go in any direction from here I think.

One possible angle that this new chapter doesn't particularly support nor deny though is whatever factor in this her father might be playing. Is he alive? Is he around? Does he want anything to do with his family, or is he actively fighting a legal battle against them to avoid the responsibilities he might have to them? Are they in financial troubles because of something he did? Or did he maybe just die and Korisu's mom is simply struggling to be a single-parent breadwinner? Was he a one-night stand that she never saw again and who doesn't even know that he's a father?

Technically, it's possible that Korisu's neglect issues were already dealt with semi-offscreen since it appears that Kiwi and Utena keeping her company is now implied to have become part of an official arrangement they have with her mother specifically so she isn't so lonely. At this point it could just be a matter of whether Korisu has any trauma lingering from her days of neglect that needs dealing with rather than any current neglect still needing to be addressed.

Korisu's neglect really could go anywhere from here, or nowhere at all if the writer decides to do that. It's a case of Schrödinger's Neglect, if you will. xD

...What sort of an absolute psychopath goes to watch a movie at 8:30 in the morning!?

The story has explicitly thematized characters looking and/or acting older and/or younger than their physical ages, which is precisely what I recall about the first year of high school—some people looked like they were about ready for marriage while others (probably me among them) looked like they were only recently allowed to cross the street by themselves. And everyone, big and small, fairly crackling with adolescent hormones.

I just find it quite hard to believe that anyone could read this series in its entirety and think that anything objectionable is going to happen between Omichi and Rin.

I'd also like to add that it's rather clear reading this, that Omichi was not attracted to Rin because she's a child, but quite the opposite, because Rin is possibly the most mature character in this entire manga.

Look, I've got no skin in the moral outrage game on either side, but I have to disagree with you on the point of Rin's maturity.
Sorry, what kind of falling in love with a random older girl who helped you once, only taking no for an answer in word, but still wanting to find out who they liked so you could "beat" them, and only giving up once you saw that other person was similar to you, makes you think Rin is "the most mature character in this entire manga".

People keep saying she's mature, but to me, that looks like a childish crush.

Edit:
Maybe that's what this is, not that Rin is mature, but that Omichi is so immature she's on the same level. They both had the same kind of "have an admiration moment for this person you just met and think it's feelings of love and you have to date them."

The reason she comes off as mature (rightfully so, imo) is that she's highly considerate, well spoken and thoughtful. Her feelings may be immature and she's clearly too inexperienced to understand and contextualize them fully, but her approach to- and analysis of them are quite advanced and eloquent.

By contrast, Omichi's own expertise is more technical knowledge and less analysis and deeper thinking despite being older, which makes her come off as childish by comparison. (Which is entirely realistic actually, some people really are just late bloomers and Omichi is only about 12)

IMO, it seem clear that the thing which attracted Omichi to Rin romantically is how maturely, honestly and deeply she analyses, approaches and lives by her feelings. On the "physical" attraction level, there seems to be some level of "Moe" appeal to the concept of a small child displaying maturity and wisdom beyond her years at play, which is a very Japanese culture thing that it's not entirely fair to analyze from a purely western viewpoint.

Still, I maintain that the dominant factor to Omichi's feelings is not Rin's age but rather, her mature and considerate personality. Omichi herself rationalized that what provoked her emotional attraction was how much she felt that Rin deserves to feel loved after all the hard work and thoughtfulness she puts into her feelings.
The only character I'd say is arguably more mature than Rin in the story tbh is Hino herself, but that's debatable since she very much treads the line between being deeply thoughtful and considerate of Koguma versus childishly indulging in a LOT of immature shenanigans on a daily basis.

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I hated omichi cuz she was such a cock block but now she’s a pedophile. Glad I disliked her from the start
She’s not a fucking 12 year old, shes in highschool. So yes she would be considered a pedo
Yep, cuz if u didn’t know, what she’s doing is called grooming :)

She's a first year in middle school you twit.
You're either trolling or completely butt-fuck insane.
This is how the witch trials happened and you're living proof we have not evolved as a species since.

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I hated omichi cuz she was such a cock block but now she’s a pedophile. Glad I disliked her from the start

...Imagine calling a 12-year-old a pedophile. õ_õ

Is it me, or does Koguma have some sort of disorder? Or is she just very innocent and ignorant? She brings up all sorts of rules that I can't imagine a Japanese high school having, and Hino always questions them, but she never gives up on them. For context, the school I taught at for years was what would be a magnet school in the US or an elite state school in the UK like Twyford C of E High School. We did have the rules like no stopping off anywhere before you got home and took off your uniform, and the teachers having to watch out for the students if they saw them outside of school, but it seemed to me like Koguma thought anything she noticed about Hino was illegal, basically.

I'm not sure what you mean--as I recall, Koguma mostly tries to get Hino to not skip class.

What would be some examples of Koguma having the "disorder" you perceive?

Yeah I don't see her as having a disorder, if anything the series plays up some of the rules and discipline aspects for the sake of comedy.

Probably a dose of culture clash going into that POV as well.
Japanese culture is a lot bigger on discipline and following rules and expectations.

Damn, I can't believe Hino just died and the series is over. Crazy.

...For the second time!

When you're an adult, 5 of 10 years of age gap don't matter, but that's not applicable in minors. I wouldn't see with good eyes a couple of a 5 years old and a 10 years old, neither 10 years old and 15 years old. In minors, every year changes a lot and makes a difference of maturity. It's nor right, it's strange. It's obvious that Rin should be a lot less mature, and Omichi more.

I don't really understand why they treat the kid like it is 20 years old in all that conversations. It made me feel uncomfortable.

(Sorry for my poor English)

None of the children in this story so far are treated as anything more than normal children.
Koguma and Hino are perfectly normal kids with a budding romantic interest in one another and some tints of sexual chemistry developing because they're hitting puberty. This is entirely normal, even commonplace, it's just that a lot of adults don't like acknowledging it to the point of denying that it exists entirely besides in the dreams of pedophiles.
The idea that children don't explore sexuality at all until they hit 18 (or even 13 for that matter) is nothing but a myth, and I would even go so far as to claim that stories which depict childhood but omit this element are essentially soft-censoring the concept of human adolescence by omitting an integral facet of it.

Smol kindergartner developed a crush on Hino because she was nice to her and she's seemingly starved for affection, nothing even remotely unnatural or sketchy about it. Hino decides that, out of respect for the kindergartner's resolve and bravery, she should take the proposition seriously and reject her properly rather than patronize her feelings by calling them "just a crush" even if that's what they are and the kindergartner just doesn't know it.

Literally all the children in this story behave exactly like what they are: children with only a vague understanding of what love and sex is; interacting with each other in funny ways either because hormones are one hell of a drug or because they have feelings they don't understand but are trying to rationalize with what they know.

All perfectly natural, all perfectly realistic, only exaggerated for comedic effect.

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The pedo apologists are doing their usual thing. How surprising.

And the witch-hunters are in full swing looking for more perfectly innocent people to burn alive I see. How surprising.

It's a child. Please, no.

Omichi please stop falling for the literal child.

They're both children, you're overreacting.

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