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joined Apr 4, 2012

The art leaves much to be desired.

Untitled%203
joined Feb 3, 2013

The art leaves much to be desired.

No joke. From complete lack of background to perspective fails with that pentagram floor.
Still, that's not as bad as Zun's tradition of wasting your time with the content between first and final chapters in an arc, like if this was Shonen filler or something.

last edited at May 25, 2020 12:33PM

847
joined May 28, 2011

ch 8, pg 9, "now that you mention it, I don't really know what else is in the Netherworld." is said twice.

last edited at May 25, 2020 7:13PM

Marisa
joined Jul 1, 2016

Not gonna lie... the first case feels lackluster...

last edited at May 25, 2020 10:30PM

joined Aug 1, 2011

I'll agree that a lot of the art is rather ... minimal, but I actually like the character designs for a Touhou story. They have a nice mix of cute and elegant, without the overly young look that some of the more official work has.

As for the case, I think it's main problem is that it's not, well, a case. At least not in the traditional who-dun-it sense, since it breaks most of the cardinal rules of the genre. Though, to be fair, I suspect any mystery set across Gensokyo would and Satori is called out as a cheating detective. I honestly expected the Scarlet Devil Mansion arc to end as a gag for most of it based on how poorly the set-up worked for a mystery and the characters involved.

At this point, it seems to be going more for generic suspense, with the unknowns surrounding Marisa's behavior and the seeming misunderstanding on Yukari's part. Unfortunately, I think it's struggling because neither the stakes nor the rules are clear. What's more, Gensokyo has some pretty strong safeguards against things going too far and it's hard to believe those would fail, or discount their relevance, without a clearer idea of what's actually going on.

At this point, nothing serious has really happened to any one. After all, a few Yokai taking a nap for a few days each, one at a time, is pretty small potatoes as far as Touhou Incidents go and even when they should have had access to a lot of power, like when they possessed Yuyuko (how?!) they did basically nothing. I mean, if I told you Yuyuko or Chen took a nap for a few days or that Patchuli fell ill and was knocked out for the same, wouldn't the oddest part be the fact that I bothered to mention it? What's next, Reimu wanting donations or Marissa stealing a book?

That said, the focus turning to Marissa's behavior might signal a turning point in the story that could let it set up some stakes and better define what it's trying to do. That or a nearing anti-climax.

Koishi_perf2_low
joined Jul 1, 2020

As of chapter 10, that "revengeful spirit" is looking very familiar. I'm really hoping it end up being "her", instead of a new, entirely different character.

joined Aug 12, 2020

Why does this manga has a lot of parts in their episodes? (Actually, why some manga episodes in Touhou has more parts rather than the old ones?)

Profile2
joined Aug 8, 2015

The only thing that might save this manga now is if mima is the vengeful spirit.

I was really hyped of having a Satori manga, and while I know she has a standoffish personality, they could have done more than make her appear fucking useless by always being late to the spirit's mischief, and then have these bare-bones interactions with the rest of the cast. Satori has been in the Chireiden for a long time now, she's a fish out of water, she's a perfect POV character for Gensokyo's overground shenanigans, and it's vastly underused.

Furthermore, the story's plot points feel tedious by now. It almost feels like they're not going to reveal anything substantial about the spirit until the end, and just chasing the spirit around is not amusing by itself.

I know ZUN can write compelling narratives, but the writting in this just falls flat.

The art is quite bad, too, I'd rather not grill it much on that though. (and others have already mentioned it as well)

Plasma%20pea
joined Jan 26, 2021

I honestly was afraid of touching this when I saw the art style, it seemed so... Lacking and different from the previous mangas. Honestly, the writing isn't that good. Also, the comments seem to be wishing it was Mima. It would be interesting since it is a fan favorite and despite me feeling that would never happen, I would like it to. I have never dabbled in the PC-98 era and I would like to see why people love her

joined Apr 24, 2020

As you may or may not have heard, the artist has had to drop out for health reasons (you may have noticed that they missed a bunch of months a while ago). Hence the little "The End" and "Thanks for reading" on the last page. This was only announced a couple days ago, and apparently the fate of the manga is still being decided, but I'd say there's a good chance it will resume eventually with a different artist and possibly a different name. Since it's an official series, it'd be odd to leave it hanging there.

This has happened before, when the first artist of the Three Fairies manga had to drop out for similar reasons and was replaced a couple months later.

Anyhow, wishing a quick recovery to both the artist and the manga.

23119560dedbd740efd5ed4faba669ce
joined Oct 14, 2020

As you may or may not have heard, the artist has had to drop out for health reasons (you may have noticed that they missed a bunch of months a while ago). Hence the little "The End" and "Thanks for reading" on the last page. This was only announced a couple days ago, and apparently the fate of the manga is still being decided, but I'd say there's a good chance it will resume eventually with a different artist and possibly a different name. Since it's an official series, it'd be odd to leave it hanging there.

This has happened before, when the first artist of the Three Fairies manga had to drop out for similar reasons and was replaced a couple months later.

Anyhow, wishing a quick recovery to both the artist and the manga.

Well I gotta say that's a real disappointment. I actually really liked this art. Made the characters look like dolls. It was definitely unique. Hopefully the manga does continue at least. Can't get enough Touhou content.

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