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joined Jul 13, 2016

Why are people getting upset about it, isn’t it just pure fiction?

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joined Nov 30, 2016

Note about how this chapter is banned in Germany. https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2019/06/eclair-blanche-censored-in-germany-to-protect-minors/86631/

It'll be interesting what happens when this releases in the US in 1 month. https://www.amazon.com/%C3%89clair-Blanche-Girls-Anthology-Resonates/dp/1975359097

it's listed as 272 pages, down from 292 for the Japanese print so

it's probably cut there too

I guess it's true, the US market just doesn't like yuri.

Well I just emailed YenPress's press and editorial department and I also tweeted at them as well. I'll see what I hear.

This is a concerned citizen on a mission! I, uh, am embarrassed on your behalf. For you, as it were.

My money is on this story being cut from the US release. And rightly so, you'd have to have rocks in your head not to see the PR nightmare this could cause.

were all in this together now

see yall in prison
we proly have to stick together cuz they stab people with these kinds of history

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joined Sep 1, 2017


Gross.

Why do you people come to this forum, just to create an account to post a lame meme image just to hate on a manga. Can you fuck off and not use this site? This is your only ever post. Great fucking job.

Maybe they read the site all the time, and just don't post. This one offended them so much they had to speak up. Or they just thought the meme was funny, cuse it's a little funny.

Mahiru
joined Aug 28, 2016

Haha that note at the end... No thank you, I don't think I will. Like, the last thing I need in my life is more ignorant people associating homosexuality with pedophilia, and stuff like this doesn't help.

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joined Feb 4, 2020


Gross.

Why do you people come to this forum, just to create an account to post a lame meme image just to hate on a manga. Can you fuck off and not use this site? This is your only ever post. Great fucking job.

Pedos have no rights.

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joined Sep 1, 2017

Why are people getting upset about it, isn’t it just pure fiction?

There is always someone who posts a variant of this after every lolicon story. Can't you see, this stuff is highly offensive. There is a college woman making out with a half naked elementary schooler, for pete's sake. Feathers are going to get ruffled. Maybe they're a victim of child molestation, maybe they have children in that age, they feel protective about, or maybe they're like me, who are okay with it, but think that's not okay.(Not this story though. It made me feel all kinds of ick.) So they post on the site, to feel better about themselves. I say let them rant. Freedom of speech goes both ways.

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joined Mar 12, 2018

Aw this was cute :’) Chii chan should help her take off her first bra too

edit: 43 comments thus far and most of it consists of people bitching about lolis and/or edgy statements about going to hell. It also seems like many of the people who are “grossed out” by hachi’s works keep reading them (despite seeing the “lolicon” tag). Could it be that you actually enjoy them and are perhaps lying to yourselves because of socially conditioned guilt? Hmmmm

Not really. This one was more disturbing than their other works. In their latest works, the relationship was more chaste. It was pure and soft. Most of the time, the adult didn't want to go intimate with the loli for x reasons, but in this one they're making out and that's kind of gross...

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joined Aug 25, 2018

"Loli Appreciation Bureau"

name checks out, lol xD

Also, I like how in the end they threw a rant against Germany for banning this manga... Yep, name checks as fuck

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joined Jan 30, 2017

rare case of lolicon/age gap stuff actually feeling like a pedophilia, lol

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joined Sep 1, 2017

Haha that note at the end... No thank you, I don't think I will. Like, the last thing I need in my life is more ignorant people associating homosexuality with pedophilia, and stuff like this doesn't help.

Good point.

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joined Feb 23, 2016

every time i read itou's work, i get just a bit more closer to hell

I think we all are pretty much there and Itou is like in another divison

Setsuko2
joined Jan 20, 2014

I don't think this is what a real kid's reaction is like, or am I just out of touch with how the new generation thinks?

Itou Hachi being in touch with the new generation is the nightmare scenario.

iseewhatyoudidthar LOL

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joined Oct 15, 2016

I'm not a fan of Itou's works, but i had to check it out after seeing 3 pages on the forum just on the first day. I remember why i don't like Itou's work, but this thread was entertaining so it wasn't all bad.

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joined Mar 27, 2019

college student?? isn't that too young of an age gap for Itou Hachi?

Dashing
joined Nov 19, 2018

I absolutely LOVE Itou Hachi works. I'm never tired of reading them. I'm a bit sad about censorship but i can still read it on dynasty. I hope Hachi will never change and keeps giving us a glimpses of Yuri heaven.

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joined Jan 3, 2017

ho boy, here we go again

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

every time i read itou's work, i get just a bit more closer to hell

Surely you mean heaven

Do actual kids even fathom the concept of a lover?
I don't think this is what a real kid's reaction is like, or am I just out of touch with how the new generation thinks?

Pretty sure they don't unless an adult literally exposes them to it. And if they do understand, most likely than not, they're reaction is 'eww gross'. Kids have more than enough attention that they wouldn't need a lover. The only reason people get lovers is to distract themselves from the stressors of adulting; teenagers because of hormones. At least, that's what I think.

People seriously underestimate kids. I myself used to, until I took a moment to remember what we ourselves were like back in the day. Even a slow bloomer like me was thinking about such things at that age, most kids I knew were already talking about sex-related things even earlier. And this in the 80's in an Estonia that was still under Soviet occupation and where there certainly was nothing like the rather easy access to such materials we have now.

joined Jan 5, 2020

Have to say, there is a pretty big difference between soft loli where the affection originates from the kid and the adult just kind of goes along with it (and is uncomfortable with actually sexual actions) and this. This is just straight up pedo and it’s gross. I was uncomfortable with it when we found out the affection originated from the adult and that the adult initiated the “lovers” part on an unassuming child, but as soon as the whole “picking your lover’s first bra” and talking about how a freaking 9 or 10 year old was sexually attractive, it was an instant close the window. This isn’t yuri. This is just straight up pedo and it absolutely makes sense that it’s being banned in various countries.

Now, I’m not going to say it should be taken down from here, though I’m definitely making a mental note to hard avoid Itou Hachi going forward. But all y’all trying to make the argument that people who don’t like this type of thing don’t like yuri need to be taking a hard look at yourself. You’re literally saying it’s okay for an adult to not only feel sexual attraction to a literal child that hasn’t even begun to enter puberty but also act on it and then insisting that it should be not only included but also accepted by people who only want sexual attraction and action between adult lesbians and/or bisexual women. You ARE the reason people keep thinking LGBT+ includes and supports pedophiles.

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joined Apr 19, 2018

reading anything by itou hachi gives me such a unique feeling? like, i dont love it or hate it, it kinda makes me a bit uncomfortable even? and i dont particularly look forward to her works. BUT when i do see an upload of hers i cant not click and read it. it almost feels like an addiction. you know it isnt doing you any good and you feel guilty afterwards but you just cant stop, like i know i shouldnt but i do it anyway. does anybody else share this strange phenomenon of a feeling? do we need to start a itou hachi anonymous? bc i need help yall

Ditto same. I don't know where I should vent out or confess reading Itou's work.

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joined Sep 7, 2016

every time i read itou's work, i get just a bit more closer to hell

Surely you mean heaven

Do actual kids even fathom the concept of a lover?
I don't think this is what a real kid's reaction is like, or am I just out of touch with how the new generation thinks?

Pretty sure they don't unless an adult literally exposes them to it. And if they do understand, most likely than not, they're reaction is 'eww gross'. Kids have more than enough attention that they wouldn't need a lover. The only reason people get lovers is to distract themselves from the stressors of adulting; teenagers because of hormones. At least, that's what I think.

People seriously underestimate kids. I myself used to, until I took a moment to remember what we ourselves were like back in the day. Even a slow bloomer like me was thinking about such things at that age, most kids I knew were already talking about sex-related things even earlier. And this in the 80's in an Estonia that was still under Soviet occupation and where there certainly was nothing like the rather easy access to such materials we have now.

While early 2000's elementary kids around my place already had access to porn, in all kinds of media like CDs, .3gp videos, or old Nokia's MMS messages.
And we're in a developing country where porn is prohibited by law.

Edit. Forgot 'bout why I even bothered to check the forum in the first place, that I was lurking to see people talk 'bout the ban in Germany, of all places.
Of course that topic would be drown by people talking 'bout little kids me included ahah

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joined Jul 29, 2017

Reading about something is not "literally saying you're okay" with whatever behavior is depicted in the fiction. (That's not really what the original poster was saying, I know, which is why I'm not using an auto-quote.)

People have been reading with pleasure about things they would find abhorrent in real life and other people have been giving them shit about it literally before widespread literacy even existed (see Plato, The Republic).

johnb suggests that there's something necessary and cathartic for some people about coming into a forum and decrying fictional behavior as if it's real.

I don't quite get it myself, but as every Itou Hachi thread demonstrates, it happens so often it must be true.

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joined Jun 25, 2019

You’re literally saying it’s okay for an adult to not only feel sexual attraction to a literal child that hasn’t even begun to enter puberty

No, they said it's okay as long it's fiction. I don't think anyone will said that IRL Pedophilia is ok by any mean. God, it's more or less the same thing everytime there is an Itou Hachi doujin and I swear it's not even the worst Itou have done. Listen, i will said what it said in most Itou Hachi thread. Just blacklist the Lolicon tag if you don't like this kind of stuff. That's the most efficient way.

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joined Dec 3, 2016

Based and lolipilled

joined Apr 18, 2018

The best thing to do is just to bask yourself in whatever moral conflict occurring without taking them seriously and enjoying the content as much as you could, if it's truly up to your alley, that is. As for me, this stuff is great and that kissing scene is goddamn lewd, so all is well. More, please.

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