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joined Jul 26, 2016

I'll never really get over how most of the fandom (or at least the vocal part) just can't seem to care much about whether or not there's going to be sex between Yuzu and Mei and devalue their relationship because we didn't get such a scene (and possibly never will).

If you're that starved for sexual content, there's websites specifically for that type of content. Feel free to check those out!
It's honestly just feeling like it's teen boys who can't think or care about anything but sex reading this series and getting overly frustrated about it.

And how dare this manga have side characters, and even go as far as to dedicate arcs to them! Shame on Citrus+ for not just being an R18 Citrus side series without plot.

Dang, you sure showed those strawmen what for. .-.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

I'll never really get over how most of the fandom (or at least the vocal part) just can't seem to care much about whether or not there's going to be sex between Yuzu and Mei and devalue their relationship because we didn't get such a scene (and possibly never will).

If you're that starved for sexual content, there's websites specifically for that type of content. Feel free to check those out!
It's honestly just feeling like it's teen boys who can't think or care about anything but sex reading this series and getting overly frustrated about it.

And how dare this manga have side characters, and even go as far as to dedicate arcs to them! Shame on Citrus+ for not just being an R18 Citrus side series without plot.

This may take the prize for the most spurious and obtuse argument ever made about this series. Anyone who has actually read the many, many detailed critiques of this series here and come away thinking that the primary complaint about this series is that Citrus is not pornography either has negative reading comprehension in the English language or is simply trolling.

Xxaaezvi
joined Oct 1, 2019

I never said I wanted pornography. You can show two lovers loving each other, aka Yamada to Kase-san, without being too graphic but you get the message. Even mainstream anime will show naked breasts, aka High School DxD. Hugging, kissing, bare breasts, you know, loving, is what lovers are supposed to do with each other. If not, then they aren't lovers.

And how Mei can expect Yuzu to continue waiting to receive any attention from her at all is beyond me. Yuzu must be a masochist.

Shawn must be hiding.

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joined Jun 15, 2021

Saburouta is totally capable of writing R rated sex scene. When you read her shounen or shoujo stuff, you will also see an older guy manipulate a high school girl into sex. The guy usually sexually humiliates the girl. If you wonder about all the sexual assault and manipulation in Citrus and Citrus Plus, now you know where it comes from. Also you will wonder if Sabu dislike straight girls.
Speaking of Manami and Kana, I will not be surprised if they are another Sayaka. Closet lesbians who use homophobia to hide their own orientation. At no times do we know if they REALLY dated boys, because Yuzu lied about having boyfriends too.

last edited at Jun 15, 2022 12:27AM

Karma
joined Oct 21, 2017

This month has just been great first my favorite voice actor Billy Kametz dies from colon cancer (F****cancer by the way) now that's no new chapter of Citrus Plus.

last edited at Jun 15, 2022 11:03AM

Xxaaezvi
joined Oct 1, 2019

Oh, Hi Shawn, we missed you. A few of us had discussed the lack of developement of the love between Mei and Yuzu and also the pairing of Harumin and Matsuri. Instead of these we get an arc with two really minor characters that no one cares about. Then we get a month of nothing. She must be struggling for ideas. Getting old, really fast. Would rather see Sara and her twin sister. At least they were interesting. Or how about a twist? Show Mei and Yuzu double dating witth their parents? A kiss scene with all involved would be amazing! Throw in Harumin and Matsuri on the date, too, discovering their feelings for each other. The possibilities are endless! Don't you think so, Shawn?
I'm not looking for porn but some love developement. Even you are probably wondering why the develoement is slower than Citrus? I love Yuzu and want to see her happy. Wish it were with Harumin but that ship has sailed. Seems Mei just finds ways to push Yuzu away. Very frustraiting. A love story with no love going on. Just sayin'.

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Karma
joined Oct 21, 2017

I remember know why i stopped reading this thread seriously.

You & me both.

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joined Jan 17, 2021

Sour people fighting over Citrus. Never knew I'd come up with that sentence.

Off topic, I'm afraid to ask but why each chapter's names are dates? I usually read this manga to Chaosteam's page so I didn't notice.

Xxaaezvi
joined Oct 1, 2019

Sour people fighting over Citrus. Never knew I'd come up with that sentence.

Off topic, I'm afraid to ask but why each chapter's names are dates? I usually read this manga to Chaosteam's page so I didn't notice.

The original manga, Citrus, had chapter names that had the word "love" in each chapter title. Such as one's first love and love is blind. In Citrus, I don't think it has been explained why the Chapters names are dates. Perhaps it is because of it being a chronicle of Mei and Yuzu's life between the "proposal" and the marriage. Story can go on forever at this pace. Nothing in the marriage picture gives a clue when that happened. Besides, same sex marriages are still illegal in Japan. So, just an educated guess.

Sorry if I come off as one of those sour people. Just want some development in the story.

joined Apr 14, 2022

Ah now I remember why I stopped reading these comments. Yes Mei has been shit but honestly I'm too depressed, tired, gay, and have 0 fucks left to give. So I will happily read my toxic yuri manga and yall can stfu if you don't like it you don't have to read it.

I know damn well people read it just so they can slander it like at this point yall are just doing this because you have nothing better to do. If you have nothing nice to say don't say it. So go read your bloom into you shit and leave sabu alone.

Smh

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joined Jul 29, 2017

Ah now I remember why I stopped reading these comments. Yes Mei has been shit but honestly I'm too depressed, tired, gay, and have 0 fucks left to give. So I will happily read my toxic yuri manga and yall can stfu if you don't like it you don't have to read it.

I know damn well people read it just so they can slander it like at this point yall are just doing this because you have nothing better to do. If you have nothing nice to say don't say it. So go read your bloom into you shit and leave sabu alone.

Smh

Thanks for making my day. The world being what it is, I haven’t laughed that hard in quite a while.

Karma
joined Oct 21, 2017

Ah now I remember why I stopped reading these comments. Yes Mei has been shit but honestly I'm too depressed, tired, gay, and have 0 fucks left to give. So I will happily read my toxic yuri manga and yall can stfu if you don't like it you don't have to read it.

I know damn well people read it just so they can slander it like at this point yall are just doing this because you have nothing better to do. If you have nothing nice to say don't say it. So go read your bloom into you shit and leave sabu alone.

Smh

Glad to know I'm not the only one that feels this way thank you, you made my week.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

Ah now I remember why I stopped reading these comments. Yes Mei has been shit but honestly I'm too depressed, tired, gay, and have 0 fucks left to give. So I will happily read my toxic yuri manga and yall can stfu if you don't like it you don't have to read it.

I know damn well people read it just so they can slander it like at this point yall are just doing this because you have nothing better to do. If you have nothing nice to say don't say it. So go read your bloom into you shit and leave sabu alone.

Smh

Glad to know I'm not the only one that feels this way thank you, you made my week.

Has anyone noticed that the alleged “argument” that “If you don’t like it, don’t read it” applies equally well to those who are unhappy with the Dynasty comments?

If reading Citrus+ makes you “happy” and reading the forum makes you “depressed,” the solution is pretty obvious.

In the alternative, a person could make a tearful “Leave Sabu Aloooooone!” video that would go viral and garner millions of “likes.” That might cheer a person up as well.

joined Jan 14, 2020

Poor analogy, IMO. A manga is what it is, take it or leave it, but we have power over the comments and community here. And comments can have utility: adding cultural context, clarifying obscure points, pointing out things people missed. All of which are made more painful if you have to wade through a sea of self-indulgent negativity.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

Poor analogy, IMO. A manga is what it is, take it or leave it, but we have power over the comments and community here. And comments can have utility: adding cultural context, clarifying obscure points, pointing out things people missed. All of which are made more painful if you have to wade through a sea of self-indulgent negativity.

And defining any negativity as “self-indulgent” is itself quite counter-productive; I’m not sure how much more “self-indulgent” than Eroswhite’s “positive” rant a post can get.

A lot of readers have been following Citrus for nearly a decade, many of whom, like me, thought highly of the series at first, and while many of the vocal critics have been disappointed with the quality of its long-term execution, they’re still interested enough to follow the story and its characters and to find occasional pleasures along the way. Telling those readers, many of whom also do the positive things you list above, to just shut up and go away isn’t going to work.

The “If you don’t like it don’t read it” argument certainly does cut both ways, and critical readers with a long-term investment in a series have just as much right to comment as those who are happy with it (assuming “Yes Mei has been shit” counts as “happy with it”).

Xxaaezvi
joined Oct 1, 2019

Blastaar, thank you.

joined Jan 7, 2021

Saburouta is totally capable of writing R rated sex scene. When you read her shounen or shoujo stuff, you will also see an older guy manipulate a high school girl into sex. The guy usually sexually humiliates the girl. If you wonder about all the sexual assault and manipulation in Citrus and Citrus Plus, now you know where it comes from. Also you will wonder if Sabu dislike straight girls.
Speaking of Manami and Kana, I will not be surprised if they are another Sayaka. Closet lesbians who use homophobia to hide their own orientation. At no times do we know if they REALLY dated boys, because Yuzu lied about having boyfriends too.

eh the frick are u saying..ugh lies with no evidence kinda had enough, listen i just wanna enjoy my afternoon without readin bs like "yuzu had bfs" are u okay???? stop disturbing my peace beth enough lies today u leave yuzu alone stop it rn ur triggering my lesbianism health yuzu had no boyfriends why tf u think she went in shock when she saw mei argh

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joined Jun 25, 2019

Saburouta is totally capable of writing R rated sex scene. When you read her shounen or shoujo stuff, you will also see an older guy manipulate a high school girl into sex. The guy usually sexually humiliates the girl. If you wonder about all the sexual assault and manipulation in Citrus and Citrus Plus, now you know where it comes from. Also you will wonder if Sabu dislike straight girls.
Speaking of Manami and Kana, I will not be surprised if they are another Sayaka. Closet lesbians who use homophobia to hide their own orientation. At no times do we know if they REALLY dated boys, because Yuzu lied about having boyfriends too.

eh the frick are u saying..ugh lies with no evidence kinda had enough, listen i just wanna enjoy my afternoon without readin bs like "yuzu had bfs" are u okay???? stop disturbing my peace beth enough lies today u leave yuzu alone stop it rn ur triggering my lesbianism health yuzu had no boyfriends why tf u think she went in shock when she saw mei argh

That's ... what they saying, they said Yuzu lie about having BF to theirs friends, which in the very first pages of the first chapter of Citrus.

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joined May 28, 2021

The Mei-Bot actually made a successful initiative roll , I legit didn't know she had it in her :0

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Me
joined May 21, 2017

The Mei-Bot actually made a successful initiative roll , I legit didn't know she had it in her :0

MEI-BOT LMFAOOOO

Ricowow
joined Dec 23, 2020

MEI taking the initiative in the relationship?

It must be snowing in the Sahara soon...

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joined May 1, 2019

Today is a good day for Mei enthusiasts!

About Mei's "Chocolate Fettuccino":
In Japanese, Mei says she wants to try a チョコペペロンチーノ (chocolate peperoncino), likely intending to say "chocolate frappuccino" (since this is what Yuzu gets her on their date).
"Peperoncino" is just the Italian word for hot chili peppers, but in Japanese, it's the abbreviated name of a pasta dish called "spaghetti aglio e olio" (the full Japanese name is "aglio, olio e peperoncino"). Basically, I guess Mei thought it was some kind of chocolate pasta.
However, the word peperoncino doesn't have this strong association with pasta in English, so in order to make Mei's reaction on Page 9 make sense, I swapped it for a mashup of fettuccine and frappuccino.

Also, here's the "log flume ride" Mei is referring to on Page 12 (from the chapter released in August of last year lmao):
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/citrus_august_7th#15

I hope you all enjoyed the chapter!

joined May 29, 2021

Yuzu having drama about a character we've never met seems a little forced, but it was nice that Mei got to be supportive and interesting for once, so I'll take it. Seriously, though, wasn't this sequel supposed to be pushing other plots? Harumin and Matsuri haven't been updated on in what...over a year? A year and half?

joined Jan 14, 2020

Nice chapter in terms of interactions. "Chocolate fettucino" lol.
Mei talked like such a Vulcan.

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

About time this gets said.

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