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Pov_youre_a_triple_mugger
joined Feb 19, 2016

Yeah, not falling for the puppy dog eyes Hana.

Soralaylaff
joined Oct 16, 2013

I love pathetic toxic women

Sono.hanabira.ni.kuchizuke.o.-.atelier.no.koibito-tachi.full.1462399_avartar
joined May 28, 2015

Oh please, since you came back in her life you only treat her like your little toy, a puppy you can play with and discard at anytime.
And now that she finally bite back, you're asking why she hits you !? Bitch please!
I hope the author will not give us the classical excuses of "she had a traumatic past, toxic relationships and she's depressed. That's why she treats her like shit." because that's not a valid reasons to act like that.
If they end up together she better do the hard work to make it works.

X2(edited)2
joined Jan 2, 2022

I think what I find frustrating about this series is that it has the look of a serious introspective story. And I don't really mean the visuals, but I mean in the same way that there is "prestige tv" and oscar-bait films, this feels like the manga version of that. It only works because it's playing off of the expectation that things are happening in between the chapters, emotions and resolutions are occurring for the characters in the spaces in between what we see. And that approach is so incredibly difficult to pull off that, like here, it instead comes off as confused and the characters lack stability. Seven chapters into a story with ten chapters, as in 70% of the way through the story, I still know next to nothing about Hana or her motivations.

There comes a point where holding back is no longer sexy or mysterious, it's just poor writing.

last edited at Feb 24, 2026 7:03PM

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joined Apr 25, 2020

Why did she hit you?

Well, I don't know, maybe because you kissed her and then bit her lip without her permission, oh and yeah, she's married, tiny little detail

However, I gotta say I am pretty thrilled about how this is gonna develop, I just hope the author gets enough time to flesh out the story because it seems we're for a slow burn ride

joined May 9, 2017

I think what I find frustrating about this series is that it has the look of a serious introspective story. And I don't really mean the visuals, but I mean in the same way that there is "prestige tv" and oscar-bait films, this feels like the manga version of that. It only works because it's playing off of the expectation that things are happening in between the chapters, emotions and resolutions are occurring for the characters in the spaces in between what we see. And that approach is so incredibly difficult to pull off that, like here, it instead comes off as confused and the characters lack stability. Seven chapters into a story with ten chapters, as in 70% of the way through the story, I still know next to nothing about Hana or her motivations.

There comes a point where holding back is no longer sexy or mysterious, it's just poor writing.

That's a better way to put it that what I would have said. I don't mind stories with toxic and over dramatic characters like in My girlfriend is not here today, but here we have a serious and realistic setting with illogical/over dramatic (at least to me) characters. The two don't match up, which looks like poor writing indeed.

Seing Hana's point of view after all the actions that she did so far don't make any sense to me. It doesn't make me care about the character. If anything, I despise her even more.

Same for Hikaru. Love is built up on actions, not feelings. Of course it starts with feelings, but if your whole vision of someone is seeing through the lens of your childhood's feeling, without anything to back that up, that's very shallow. I really don't like that vision of love in media, were everything is attributed to feelings only. It makes me think of a quote I've read a long time ago "Love is a verb. Reactive people make it a feeling.".

joined Feb 25, 2025

Why did she hit you?

Well, I don't know, maybe because you kissed her and then bit her lip without her permission, oh and yeah, she's married, tiny little detail

However, I gotta say I am pretty thrilled about how this is gonna develop, I just hope the author gets enough time to flesh out the story because it seems we're for a slow burn ride

Its a long finished series with two volumes, we are already in the second one

543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

Why did she hit you?

Well, I don't know, maybe because you kissed her and then bit her lip without her permission, oh and yeah, she's married, tiny little detail

However, I gotta say I am pretty thrilled about how this is gonna develop, I just hope the author gets enough time to flesh out the story because it seems we're for a slow burn ride

Its a long finished series with two volumes, we are already in the second one

Yeah there's 3 chapters left.

Purple Library Guy
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joined Mar 3, 2013

Oh please, since you came back in her life you only treat her like your little toy, a puppy you can play with and discard at anytime.

Which, of course, would also be an unforgivable way to treat a puppy.

last edited at Feb 25, 2026 5:15AM

joined Jul 10, 2025

I honestly think this is pretty interesting writing. The first six chapters never show Hana's perspective, which builds her up as a mysterious, confident antagonist. The first time we do actually get to see her inner thoughts, she's confused and clearly misread the situation, which just makes her pathetic and immature instead. It feels very true to how real people seem like they're in control at first but are really just messed up inside

It's such a trip to watch someone on this forum get upset on behalf of a husband character because his wife will supposedly leave him or cheat on him in a later chapter. I wonder if it's a first. Ohsawa Yayoi might be breaking new ground in ways she doesn't even know.

I'll be incredibly bored if Harutaka ends up doing an unsympathetic heel turn as an excuse to justify the girls getting together. I want to feel terrible about his undeserved suffering

Hotarusquibbly
joined Feb 12, 2025

Is this y'all's first cheating yuri where the husband isn't evil? I'm gonna enjoy women kissing toxically idk about anyone else

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joined Jul 10, 2016

Read that as

an unsympathetic feels turn

Which I'm quite honestly surprised wasn't a thing. Because it's exactly the kind of thing that might just be coming.

Breathe%20meme%202
joined Jan 17, 2025

Is this y'all's first cheating yuri where the husband isn't evil? I'm gonna enjoy women kissing toxically idk about anyone else

I could enjoy yuri like that in a hentai but not in a manga where it fleshes out the relationships. They gave the bro too much screentime for me to enjoy him getting cucked.

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joined Feb 18, 2018

I can't find myself to understand that woman at all ..like AT ALL

Violetpfp
joined Aug 12, 2021

I can't find myself to understand that woman at all ..like AT ALL

Next two chapters have got to have some CRAZY plot twist in it, especially after hearing about the ending spoiler. Doesn't seem like there's much time left for character development. If I had to guess how this is going to turn out, I'd guess they're both a lot more psycho than we thought

Cornonthekopp
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joined Jul 6, 2020

neurodivergant homewrecker swag

Sono.hanabira.ni.kuchizuke.o.-.atelier.no.koibito-tachi.full.1462399_avartar
joined May 28, 2015

You fucking kidding me!? From both of them, are you serious. You call that talking!?

20180327_165604
joined Nov 9, 2017

How can you be 30 minutes early to a meetup you've planned to have in 20 minutes?

Capture
joined Aug 12, 2021

Oh she's a fucking mess alright. Feels bad, like, she just genuinely doesn't get the effect she has on people and the sheer value they put in her actions because she doesn't explain herself. And might just not even realize why she's failing to do so.

Neurodivergent homewrecker swag indeed.

Pov_youre_a_triple_mugger
joined Feb 19, 2016

How the fuck do you make it to your 30s without ever seemingly encountering the notion of empathy. This really is the thinnest pity party excuse, isn't it

Freakinspacians
joined Feb 17, 2018

Woman experiences consequences for the first time in her life, apparently

joined May 9, 2017

neurodivergant homewrecker swag

Too easy to excuse her behavior on neurodivergency. She is 35, not 20. Also, she bite Hikaru. I never heard of neurodivergent people biting other people and not except them to be upset. This is really insane lol

Alpha2
joined Jan 17, 2024

Autistic woman swag. You love to see it.

How can you be 30 minutes early to a meetup you've planned to have in 20 minutes?

That's... a really good point. Odd goof.

joined Feb 25, 2025

I mean, one thing would be if Hana was just pathetic and thought everything was going her way, but this isn't that, she really doesn’t realize why Hikaru is angry, because she is bad at comunication and undertanding others but the way is played feels forced.
Basically, what we have here is the typical "Perfect Girl feels empty because everyone loves her -superficially- but no one really knows and/or likes her true self and everyone who said they loved her felt disappointed because she wasn't perfect as they expected and left" with Hikaru being the first to accept her.
I am a cliche and miscommunication defender but in this case it feels bad played, for me at least

joined Apr 3, 2021

I found that intensely sad. (I also buy it, she does seem like the type of person people would just ghost. They probably think she doesn’t care, and she probably didn’t until everyone was gone)

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