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joined Nov 25, 2023

this is insanely romantic. i'm sold. like, i'm already a sucker for class S-inspired stories (marimite, anyone?)

I always thought Marimite is a weird one. Yes, it has all the surface elements of a Class S story (sisterly bonds, rosaries and the like), but almost none of the elements that make Class S so distinctive. Most classic Class S stories have a heart of love, longing and outright lust, and Marimite has almost none of that. It's mostly the antics of high school girls who like role-playing Class S tropes, but there's no there there, if you know what I mean.

The few times Marimite seems to be going into a more romantic direction it gets treated as if it's something to be avoided, such as Sei's backstory. It's also telling that by the end the only official couples are heterosexual ones.

Strawberry Panic, for all its silliness, seems to get al least the romantic and lustful part of Class S right.

fwiw this is only really true of the strawberry panic anime. i'm a fan of the light novels specifically. in there, yaya is described as "a bonafide lesbian" like it's a dirty, controversial word. that unlike the other girls, her love is explicitly sexual (and it ties this into her issues at home with her father etc). and that combined with her assaulting/raping hikari... it's definitely not positive about the lustful side.

(for anyone wondering why i prefer the LNs, they're much bigger on the inter-school politics and competitive drama, and shizuma/nagisa has much tastier chemistry.)

also idk if sei's backstory was framed as "bad"? granted i haven't read the marimite LNs, but in the anime, i thought the delicate treatment was because of how deeply personal and sensitive it was. sei (my favorite character, incidentally) was deliberately snuffing out her own vulnerability after everything that happened. considering how badly her heart was broken, i can't blame her.

regardless, i agree that this manga is very deliberate and faithful toward its class S inspiration. latest chapter surprised me, but kasumi's issues have been quietly building up to this for a while, so i think it only feels a little jarring because we're reading chapters as they come out vs binging. the seeds were definitely planted early on.

Capturar
joined Jun 27, 2018

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joined Jul 6, 2014

And Sumi-chan's reasoning is also something that bothers me a bit. Of course, she's been shown to be "insecure" and not feeling enough before, but to think she's doesn't deserve her Onee-sama and that she should rather hand her to someone else?? Why would she think that? Mental gymnastics at its finest. Haruyo's shown to have a deep appreciation for her, even if I don't think Sumire's love and Haruyo's love are "the same". But why would she go so far as to distance herself from her? It doesn't make sense to me

Without going into too many personal details...I've quite literally had a girl do this to me and think she wasn't good enough, that "this" girl would be better (she was not)

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I think there could be another layer to this as well. On some level, she might even view this as preferable for her to be the one to "end the relationship" of her own volition before Haruyo (in Kasumi's mind) gets bored with her and leaves.

It's bad. Hurry. Have to hurry. Have to find who sent the letter. Before I melt away.

^This line on page 26 and Kasumi's behavior on the pages before feel like she's trying to preventatively "wean herself off" of Haruyo, in order to protect herself from the supposedly inevitable parting they're going to have soon. She wants to end the relationship before it's too late for her to go back to what life was like before Haruyo.

Oh yeah, she absolutely has massive abandonment issues. Which make perfect sense, considering. I'm really looking forward to seeing how Haruyo reacts when she learns just how serious the issues are with the girl she's been having fun class s roleplaying with.

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

You silly, silly girl... Then again, that's what low self-esteem does to one.

And I have to admit I didn't think she'd actually be able to find the sender, the letter seemed way too much like someone leaving it behind at graduation.

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joined Mar 3, 2013

^This line on page 26 and Kasumi's behavior on the pages before feel like she's trying to preventatively "wean herself off" of Haruyo, in order to protect herself from the supposedly inevitable parting they're going to have soon. She wants to end the relationship before it's too late for her to go back to what life was like before Haruyo.

And again, for anyone who's not aware, this is definitely a real thing. My wife used to have these feelings quite often back when we were dating. It took quite a long time for her to gain enough confidence in me and herself for this to not happen.

Astrophysicist55
joined Jul 16, 2025

This chapter cements it. Kasumi clearly has some attachment issues, likely from her cram school friend committing suicide.

This might be speculation, but maybe that friend was something more to Kasumi, and in Kasumi's mind, her feelings contributed to her death. That might explain why Kasumi wants to be so close to Haruyo, but her self-loathing makes her push her away.

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joined May 27, 2019

If Kasumi needs figure her career out still, it seems she’d be an incredible private investigator with how quickly she found the original sender

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It's really difficult to read when a character is having issue of crippling self-esteem and starts the "maybe the person I loved would be better off with some other person" line of thinking because all of this is so real.

Having a very low self-esteem is like (content warning: symptoms, contains vulgar language) Someone constantly whispering to you "you have no worth", "you're just wasting the time and patience of everyone you know", "you lied to everyone you know, you faker", "everyone will leave you if they ever know what piss of shit you really are", "you don't deserves anything good in life" but that "someone" is you and you fully agree. And at some point you just started to distance everyone near you and burn the bridges, to try not to be disassociated by others later (even if that may not happen). Been there, done that. I'm still very sorry to those people I hurt due to this, but I still believes, to this day, that they would be better without me.

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I think there could be another layer to this as well. On some level, she might even view this as preferable for her to be the one to "end the relationship" of her own volition before Haruyo (in Kasumi's mind) gets bored with her and leaves.

It's bad. Hurry. Have to hurry. Have to find who sent the letter. Before I melt away.

^This line on page 26 and Kasumi's behavior on the pages before feel like she's trying to preventatively "wean herself off" of Haruyo, in order to protect herself from the supposedly inevitable parting they're going to have soon. She wants to end the relationship before it's too late for her to go back to what life was like before Haruyo.

Oh yeah, she absolutely has massive abandonment issues. Which make perfect sense, considering. I'm really looking forward to seeing how Haruyo reacts when she learns just how serious the issues are with the girl she's been having fun class s roleplaying with.

I wouldn’t really call it roleplay anymore. It might’ve started that way, but now it feels more like they’re revealing parts of themselves they can’t show around other people without breaking their image. The strong, reliable girl who secretly wants to be pampered and let her guard down, and the goofy, childish girl who actually wants to be seen as dependable and mature. With each other, it feels real and it starts to become natural. What began as roleplay is now turning into genuine parts of who they are.

joined Apr 16, 2022

I wouldn’t really call it roleplay anymore. It might’ve started that way, but now it feels more like they’re revealing parts of themselves they can’t show around other people without breaking their image. The strong, reliable girl who secretly wants to be pampered and let her guard down, and the goofy, childish girl who actually wants to be seen as dependable and mature. With each other, it feels real and it starts to become natural. What began as roleplay is now turning into genuine parts of who they are.

I see what you mean, but also, "revealing parts of myself I can't show around other people" is one of the core appeals of roleplaying. You get to explore parts of yourself you couldn't otherwise.

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joined Jul 29, 2024

I love how this is progressing

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joined Aug 4, 2021

menage a trois?

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joined Oct 25, 2023

menage a trois?

After just 3 pages with this new character? You certainly move fast.

Moddedpolka2
joined Oct 9, 2016

Please no love triangle.. And please no some evil saboteur.

joined Feb 1, 2021

Please no love triangle.. And please no some evil saboteur.

I don't know why, but with the last page the vibe I'm getting is more "troll" than anything else.

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joined Oct 14, 2014

This cliffhanger had me actually hissing "What the fuck?" out loud LOL

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joined Sep 21, 2019

That was a hard "love" by the way.

Hooray! Also tysm for the TL!

It is a mystery why Igarashi now has lewd yuri thoughts on the brain.

Mysterious indeed.

Also, did they kiss on page 26?

Doubt it, it wouldn't be Class S anymore.

I think they didn't, but that it's meant to be implied they could have.

I'm also pretty sure this isn't just going to stay as Class S though. If anything, it already broke away from that when Kasumi explicitly got turned on in Ch8.

Kasumi's aware of this "breaking away" phenomenon, and is in fact scared of dirtying this relationship - and by extension, dirtying Haruyo - with impure thoughts, or even with a love that's too intense for Class S. I believe it's part of why she thinks Haruyo would be better off with someone else.

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joined May 21, 2021

We need more tags for chapter 10. Jesus Christ, I didn't see it coming. The manga keeps throwing curve balls and I'm here for it.

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joined Oct 9, 2021

I don't know what to tag this one but it probably should be tagged something.

Igarashi has been giddy over this chapter on Bluesky. Weeks of wanting to see reactions, announcing the chapter with jokes like "Sorry I kept you waiting for this," "Thank you for having faith in me all this time," "Dominant is like a curse that hangs over every manga I make. I love it forever."

Igarashi's previous manga, Dominant, (untranslated) was a very dark romance with a few infamous scenes involving a hammer and a guitar. Now the box-cutter joins their ranks in Japanese fan memes. I'll cover Dominant more later when I translate Igarashi's crossover art for the two, but Japanese fans have been waiting for the other shoe to drop while Igarashi teased whether AriSaku would reach that level of crazy. Dominant was innocent too, until the twist ending of volume 1. And now we're here at the twist ending of volume 2.

Chapter 10 opens with hesitant ambiguity (waiting to be heavily re-contextualized). Sayori is a total unknown. Kasumi is hoping for answers to questions she hasn't quite figured out yet. The reader is on-guard towards Sayori hurting their relationship. But she quickly becomes an ally with the reveal of Ono-senpai. The reader and Kasumi's goals are likely opposed here: Kasumi wants reassurance this relationship hasn't gone too far and she can back away from her feelings for Haruyo. We (surely) want escalation. For Kasumi's relationship to become unavoidably romantic, for the senpais' relationship to lead by example and show us how far AriSaku is willing to go.

Knowing the reader, Sayori's flashback slowly teases how explicit her relationship with Mizuki was, only hinting at how they've kissed and done more (Igarashi pointed out on page 22 how deliberately Mizuki is touching Sayori's breast while Sayori begins to slip Mizuki's skirt down). We hang on every page as a promise of future developments, just as much as it discomforts Kasumi. Then the ending dumps a bucket of menhera ice water on us.

You now see how far AriSaku is willing to go.

This chapter is a crushing realization for Sayori, Kasumi, and the reader that this isn't playing around — serious feelings are involved. Serious feelings that come with serious, unavoidable consequences. Sayori is trapped in her confusing and likely still toxic relationship with Mizuki. Kasumi is trapped with her suffocating love for Haruyo clashing with her buried trauma and self-loathing. We're trapped with a maniac mangaka.

It's a fitting end to an early volume. Volume 1 reinvented itself with Haruyo's reveal, 2 with Mizuki's. AriSaku keeps growing, changing, drawing in a wider world to the initial fantasy that brings with it both beautiful and disturbing realities that have been lurking beneath the surface.
I for one am excited. But hey I loved Dominant.

So now we're completely caught up. Going forward I plan to translate half chapters as they release, every 2 weeks. I somewhat regret not doing that with the first half of 10. You missed weeks of thinking Ono-senpai was the sweetest thing before this dropped.

The manga is so strongly partitioned in halves it might be part of why developments feel fast paced. Technically you could call this chapter 18 and 19, not 10. Elements aren't introduced and resolved in a single chapter but 2 paired together, if I were updating as it came out. Of course, if you read it with the volume it would still be one single chapter. But then you'd have 5 in one go.

It's interesting how much the format affects the experience. And scanlation can be its own unique format mixing elements from both. It's something I've been thinking about, and whether translating half-chapters means there'll be new comments saying the story's pacing slowed down even though the content hasn't really changed.

Dayflower at least has been adapted to manga and translated. You can read it here.

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joined Apr 4, 2022

My gut picked up something was off immediately but a box cutter popping was not in my bingo

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joined Apr 7, 2025

Okay. What is going to happen?? What is going on? Twisted feelings?

joined Jan 14, 2020

So the box cutter is still a flashback, from before Sayori saying "we're great, hey we should double date"? Interesting.

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joined Feb 19, 2016

Well that certainly escalated.

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joined Oct 25, 2022

Holy hell, I was not expecting that.

Feels like we just went over the peak of the initial rise of a roller coaster, and now things are about to get wild. And I for one, am strapped in and ready to be taken on a ride.

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