I don't get it, this isn't a trans manga. I think about wanting to be a woman and in a lesbian relationship all the time, but that doesn't make me trans.

i'm a cis girl. there is absolutely nothing that could convince me to be a guy, even temporarily. the concept is already nauseating. do they have certain things easier in life? yeah, probably. i've never wanted to be one. when people see my autistic lesbian self irl and assume i'm nonbinary or something, it makes me sad. i have no desire to be anything but a woman. so, all that said, you're probably less cis than you think lol.

won't be following this one because the humor isn't my taste, but i wish the scanlator the best.

This story is quite unambiguously positive about her appearance. People are so used to irony that they can’t accept that something might be exactly what it seems on the surface, and not part of some elaborate plan that actually the main character being presented as the bad guy.

Sigh. Would be a terrible shame if we started erasing trans-adjacent stories because they show the slightest hint of problematic elements. Can we not do that please?

idk, if it were "unambiguously" positive, there wouldn't be this much argument around it. i would say it's very much ambiguous and up to the reader's interpretation. i also have strong doubts that the author even intended to write a trans story so much as a "weird delusional old man" one. even taking the charitable angle of it being self-referential, it's clearly setting up the main character to be mocked (both within the story and by the reader).

i poked around the replies to the original work, and they were all along the lines of "ew creepy" or "that was hilarious". i think there's a tendency for eng speakers (including translators) to put japanese works on a kind of pedestal. like, they're inherently more meaningful or deep or whatever. but this is just garden variety transphobia. you can analyze it all day if you like, but the creator only intended it as an elaborate bigoted joke.

i'm a cis girl so i have no skin in this one. i also can competently understand japanese. this is plainly clear to me. i won't argue for or against removal, but i will say that if it stays, it should have some kind of warning tag for the transphobia. this is dynasty, we have warning tags for penises on specific page numbers. we can afford a bigotry content warning tag too

this is insanely romantic. i'm sold. like, i'm already a sucker for class S-inspired stories (marimite, anyone?)

I always thought Marimite is a weird one. Yes, it has all the surface elements of a Class S story (sisterly bonds, rosaries and the like), but almost none of the elements that make Class S so distinctive. Most classic Class S stories have a heart of love, longing and outright lust, and Marimite has almost none of that. It's mostly the antics of high school girls who like role-playing Class S tropes, but there's no there there, if you know what I mean.

The few times Marimite seems to be going into a more romantic direction it gets treated as if it's something to be avoided, such as Sei's backstory. It's also telling that by the end the only official couples are heterosexual ones.

Strawberry Panic, for all its silliness, seems to get al least the romantic and lustful part of Class S right.

fwiw this is only really true of the strawberry panic anime. i'm a fan of the light novels specifically. in there, yaya is described as "a bonafide lesbian" like it's a dirty, controversial word. that unlike the other girls, her love is explicitly sexual (and it ties this into her issues at home with her father etc). and that combined with her assaulting/raping hikari... it's definitely not positive about the lustful side.

(for anyone wondering why i prefer the LNs, they're much bigger on the inter-school politics and competitive drama, and shizuma/nagisa has much tastier chemistry.)

also idk if sei's backstory was framed as "bad"? granted i haven't read the marimite LNs, but in the anime, i thought the delicate treatment was because of how deeply personal and sensitive it was. sei (my favorite character, incidentally) was deliberately snuffing out her own vulnerability after everything that happened. considering how badly her heart was broken, i can't blame her.

regardless, i agree that this manga is very deliberate and faithful toward its class S inspiration. latest chapter surprised me, but kasumi's issues have been quietly building up to this for a while, so i think it only feels a little jarring because we're reading chapters as they come out vs binging. the seeds were definitely planted early on.

i really hope the son came over to apologize and not, like, act like even more of a douche about his mother having a life. also loving how natural and sweet the chemistry between the leads is. i really want them to get a happy ending

ritsumako <3 love

^^ those don't look like AI to me at all. they're a year apart with the latter showing technical improvement, so the wonky hands on the first honestly just look like a lack of skill to me (as an artist myself). i'm positive a human drew both of those. the strokes are too detailed and intentional, they don't have the AI gooeyness going on (which this pic we're commenting on does). hell, the second one even has a shadow cast from the confetti, which most humans would forget -- let alone an AI that has no context.

this pic is like a giant red flag though so i hope they consider removing it. reflects badly on this site to have AI shit, imo

yukimami wuv

why the hell is this here. i don't even look at this artist's shit on my own time, let alone on a primarily yuri site. if you're gonna post self insert stuff, at least make it one of the countless femT ones. wtf

god i love these two. kiss!!!!!!

<3 i'm healed

get her teeth!!!!!!

this is insanely romantic. i'm sold. like, i'm already a sucker for class S-inspired stories (marimite, anyone?) as well as the rose/candy yuri dynamic (rose being the older girl who's mature, reserved, probably has some kind of emotional baggage that closes her off, and candy being the younger girl who's naive and sincere). huge thank you to the scanlator, i'm bookmarking this one

licking it off tama's skin adds extra flavor!

when your rival-slash-roommate-slash-bff-slash-girlfriend is just a big silly dog who adores you

Given Remu is a teenager, I don't take her claim of "only dolls" any more seriously than the stereotypical yuri protagonist claiming they could never like a girl. Romance manga like to use ironic framing, like her saying this to her future love interest, early on in the story, while a teenager like Remu can be expected to still be figuring herself out.

the rest of your post aside, because it's all splitting hairs and i'll agree to disagree... being a teenager is not too early for that, at all. when you're talking about fetishes, they start uncomfortably early -- childhood, very often. i have an exclusive fetish like this and i've had it since i was probably 8 or 9. it shaped all my early development for several years to come and into adulthood, and my experience here isn't unique.

sure, her sexuality absolutely will develop and may broaden with time and experience. i hope it does, for her sake, and ultimately it's the author's call. but in my eyes, they're deliberately setting up her experience and feelings as "other", so narratively it would be pretty terrible to just drop that for a nice neat resolution ("actually, she's healthy and normal!").

the yuri example is also irrelevant. if a girl in a yuri claims she's straight, it's 99.9% of the time a form of comphet, or just ignorance. straight is default(tm) so she just never thought too hard about it, and it's intimidating to go against the societal grain. but remu is already aware she doesn't fit and she isn't default. that ship sailed! why would she be wrong?

You may be misunderstanding me. I am attempting to describe how the term fetish is used socially in the real world, not what its 'appropriate' use is or its DSM style clinical definition. It's not a term I would ever use on my own. My argument is that "Is the characters' fetish normal?" is not a good metric because, if it were normalized, the people in this thread would be coming into this discussion with the view that it is not a fetish.

i think it's safe to say that nothing on the level of a fetish is "normal". certainly none of the characters here are normal about their sexuality. but just as there's the couple having heterosexual missionary sex for procreation(tm) in one house, the people next door might be doing petplay or something. it's all part of the broad range of human experience, so "normal" itself is bullshit in practice anyway. it basically just defines what's socially acceptable to talk about, which varies a lot by culture.

my reason for bringing up the more DSM-ish definition of fetish is because i think it's a meaningful distinction to make in this context. i think certain dolls are hot, particularly mini dolfie dreams (idk if i'd lick them, but i definitely ogle). that qualifies as a kink maybe, but there's nothing forcing me to use dolls and dolls only to get off. but that IS remu's situation, psychologically. the brain is the most important sexual organ, and hers is very fixated

you guys might wanna take this to the forum or something, the topic has drifted really far away lol

tbh if i were to define the word fetish, it'd be more along the lines of "an unusual sexual fixation that is likely the exclusive (or nearly so) source of arousal". fetish is a strong word, which i think is why "kink" is more common in casual use. if someone had a fetish for breasts, that would be the only material that could get them off. most people have kinks, but most people don't have fetishes, in my experience. and that definition encompasses at least two of our main characters here, especially remu.

a fetish can be anything as long as it's fixated and exclusive. there are people who can only get aroused thinking about piss, or being suffocated by snakes, or quicksand, or etc etc. deviantart is full of it. humans are funny creatures! always reminds me that we really are just weird monkeys whose brains got a little too big

4 girls

relatively normal fetishist
needs therapy
needs more therapy
needs a restraining order

Which character has normal fetishes? Meguru?

imo the most well adjusted/stable girl is remu. her fetish is "weird" but she herself is the most normal of the bunch

^ it isn't, at least not in the traditional sense. you can play as a female trainer and still get all shippy scenes that exist (varies by girl), and there's at least one girl whose route becomes more intimate with a female trainer (entirely separate route, or exclusive writing...)

(and if that's still not your thing, yeah there's a ton of shippy stuff between the girls themselves that you can focus on. sometimes like in tama's case, that even overshadows the trainer stuff in quantity. i just specify the above because, as somebody who came from imas, it's crazy how lesbian friendly it is)

their hand size difference always kills me...

there they are, the soulmates!! <3 the ring is wonderful (married???) but i also love the blush radiating from tama's face. way too cute

I think it's a good tag so people who are uncomfortable with the ambiguity can filter it out or be mindful of it instead of complaining about being blindsided in the comments. It's kind of obnoxious to be into this kind of thing and then have all the comments be debating the morality of consent on a work that's obviously catering to a specific BDSM fantasy that they just don't understand.

100% agreed. this happens with somno kink really often and it drives me crazy

my take on dubcon is that it also applies to situations where consent can't be given, like if the recipient is drunk, unconscious, etc, as well as the whole ambiguous "does she really want it?" stuff. dubcon and noncon as terms exist to describe sexual fantasies, so there's no reason to weigh them against real life assault. it's more about what "flavor" a given person prefers in their erotica and to distinguish that. me personally, i like both!

man wtf i'm a dwarf in these forums (147cm, not asian (white), i'm just a freak of nature). anyway i love height gap. it's great food