i hope Shii-chan gets fucked by both Nagisa and Yuki at a later date. happy ending!

I have a question that's completely unrelated to the plot: On page 32 it says that both Momiji and Kouyo are written the same? How does that work, both in terms of how are the same characters making such different sounds and how would someone who's reading it know which set to use? Is there more to this that I'm missing or that isn't coming across?

I remember asking a Japanese tutor about something similar a, very long time ago, but I couldn't think of a good example at the time, so she wasn't able to give me an answer and I didn't stick with my studies well enough to figure it out myself. (I really do need to go back and work on that.)

When Japan adopted the Chinese writing system, they were faced with a problem: Japanese and Chinese are extremely different from each other. The solution they came to was, alongside adopting a number of Chinese words (whose pronunciations were suitably changed to match the Japanese syllable system), to also use the Chinese characters to represent completely different Japanese words with similar meanings.

As a result of this, most Japanese kanji have both a kun'yomi, a Japanese reading, and an on'yomi, a Chinese reading. Indeed, they frequently have even more than 2 such readings. 行, for example, has at least 7 different pronunciations, ranging from "i", "yu", "oko", and "okona" (kun'yomi) to "kou" ,"gyou", and "an" (on'yomi).

The case in question is actually even more complicated than this. "Kouyou" is the on'yomi reading of the kanji compound 紅葉, but the "momiji" reading actually derives not from the individual kanji in isolation but is a reading that only applies when they're both used together.

As for how to know which reading to use, unless the writer provides the correct reading in tiny characters above the kanji (called "furigana," which you may have heard of), you have to rely entirely on the context in which they're used.

This one is going to be controversial

That's an understatement lol.

Here's my view: this is fundamentally a silly romcom that's playing with some fairly explosive subject matter, which means it's hardly going to be a perfect exploration of gender and sexuality. However, there are a few elements that give me some optimism.

First, Konno never actually self-identifies as a lesbian, which lessens the potential lesbophobic vibes of the premise; at the same time, she shows literally zero interest in Kouyou as a guy while being super into "him" as a girl, which makes it less likely imo that the manga will end with Kouyou just being a totally manly cis man.

Second, even more importantly, Kouyou/Momiji is totally and completely upfront about what they're doing instead of lying to Konno and pretending to be a stranger (which is what I initially assumed was going to happen). This, along with them sincerely apologizing for everything bad they did in the past, makes the character come across as not a creep/predator, even as the concept of transfemininity is more or less just used comedically here.

Again I'm not expecting a deep and considered exploration of transfemininity in this manga, it's just a silly romcom at the end of the day, but I am legitimately curious to see where it goes from here. It reminds me a lot of this manga, and to avoid making this comments section a complete shitshow like what that thread became, I will avoid getting into prolonged arguments this time.

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I disagree with the comments that this was shallow because I was actually really struck by Rinon's character. Her hatred of her mother leading to intense self-loathing which itself is projected into a combination of love and disgust for Mai is quite complex and imo really well done, and I especially appreciate how complicated her expression is when she ends up deciding not to jump. Mai's speech and love may have convinced her not to die right then and there, but she's clearly not "better," is still suicidally depressed, and none of her core problems have really been solved. This renders quite a bitter and melancholic cast to the seemingly happy ending, which I think is very interesting and memorable.

I believe that Renako can be a top if she really tries

I really like how this doujin takes its dumb premise 100% seriously

I will never forgive Kadokawa!!!!

Responding to this in order:
1.) I can definitely see the bugs transforming but then it's like what the heck. Why does Mr. N even need to be a bug swarm in the first place? Seems a bit redundant, and too many powers.
2.) I just kind of don't like how there's NO indicator of this. While this can be conjectured, all we see in the actual manga is Panel 1 Mr. N here --> Panel 2 Mr. N there. No smoke trail or anything, until finally Ch. 27, when Mr. N dissipates to escape Itou's hold.
3.) Mr. N swaps between male teacher, gyaru, and classmate Ooki.

I'm not saying that Mr. N's true form wasn't sign-posted at all. Like you said, someone did predict it.
But I think it was signposted badly, and "bug swarm" is doing too much to explain too many different abilities, and Mr. N, imo, is a Swiss army knife with just too many functions. Which doesn't feel as cool. . .
If a villain can do everything, it no longer feels like anything.

1) The function of the bug swarm is to explain all their powers. It's not redundant because it's not a separate power, it's the one power that allows them to do all the others.

2) Again, I agree the manga could've foreshadowed it better. But there wouldn't be a smoke trail because "Mr. N" the human-shaped mass didn't move, it separated into all its constituent bug parts.

3) Ah, okay. But that's just a derivation of the bug swarm's ability to completely manipulate its own shape and texture. The bugs just arrange themselves in whatever shape they need to in order to become each person. I'm not going to claim it makes perfect sense but I think it's just plausible enough for suspension of disbelief.

As for Niehara being able to do everything, well, look forward to future chapters ;)

I do think the reveal was hastened due to the obvious axe, and that's a fair criticism, but there's a few points I'd like to clarify.

Like, just because something is made up of small things (and they're not THAT small, since they can be seen with the naked eye) doesn't mean it can turn into different colors/textures, move super fast, swap bodies instantly, or impersonate multiple humans perfectly. Is Mr. N even transforming? Or is it swapping skinsuits?

1. The idea is probably that the bugs can re-form themselves into whatever shape they wish, hence why Niehara can instantly transform.

2. Probably what happens is that the bugs all disperse so you can't see them, then re-gather at a different location, thus giving the illusion of teleportation.

3. Niehara does not swap bodies or impersonate multiple humans. It appears that Niehara basically created a brand-new monster to puppet Hiraizumi's corpse, but they are not the same being. Hence why Niehara calls the Hiraizumi monster "my subordinate," and why Itou was able to poison the latter to death (it's safe to say that the poison wouldn't have worked on a mass of bugs).

Mr. N can stop Takahashi from transforming into a worm.

Again, it's not fully explained, but it seems that by preventing Takahashi from moving by blanketing her with bugs, she can no longer transform.

Mr. N can gain/lose mass with zero visual indicators.

Again, presumably some percentage of the bugs just go away when this happens

The more I think about it, it feels like the author is deliberately setting up falsse flags, and that makes the "hive-mind bug swarm" reveal feel unfair. Like signaling left, but driving right, and going "voila".

Again, I agree the axe made the reveal overly hasty. But for what it's worth, someone here did guess it in advance. So it wasn't totally out of left field.

"Seeing the protagonist I've built up over 4 volumes suffering in anguish gets me super wet."

Uncritical support for sugar.!!!!

this doujin is extraordinarily in character lmao

I'm reminded of the ContraPoints video where she said the ideal relationship might be two masochists who switch off who has to play the sadist each time

one day Orihi Chihiro will write the greatest t4c yuri of all time and save the world

I'm surprised nobody is discussing the most shocking reveal of the chapter: that Fumi is into guys

Cute!!!

This is not at all how I expected this arc to go, but I've really enjoyed it. I agree with @C6H12O6; Katou-sensei is my favorite character now too, as an extremely flawed but nonetheless redeemable person, who just barely managed to avoid crossing the line in an irrevocable way. I found it very interesting how her relationship with Nakaoka, which began as a way for her to feel better about herself by wielding power over him, ended up encouraging her to genuinely start the road to self-improvement. I wonder if this'll be how the arc ends -- I think it's a fine ending if it is, though there are still obviously some loose ends to tie up.

that end page in chapter 1, when she is shaved bald, hits really hard. the manga present it comically which i think she does because it happen a long time ago, but it is a part of life i think we all relate to as one of the really shit part of adolescence.. never being allowed to have autonomy to shed even a tiny part of masculinity

This part stood out to me too; you could tell this was an intensely traumatic experience for her, and covering it with layers of comedy/irony is her way of coping with that trauma. For an overall lighthearted manga it was a pretty striking moment.

Anyway, Yoripi is adorable and I love her. Maybe one day she can meet Camilla again...

Most people will not see “dressing as a girl” and think of lesbians, that has never been the caricature for lesbians, most are cis, by default they dress as girls (and the predatory lesbian always use a cis woman sometimes masculine but this depend of the country) that has always be the caricature for trans women, the “dress as a girl to pick up girls” also fit the stereotype that trans women dress like that to deceive. If this fit a phobic, it is transphobic not lesbophobic. (This is not me saying the work is this or that btw)

You're not understanding my point. I'll try to be clearer. The character, Eru, is (or at least self-defines as) a boy who dresses as a girl to pick up girls. "Guy who pretends to be a woman to pick up women" is , indeed, a common transmisogynistic stereotype. However, Eru's crossdressing is not presented in a negative light; if anything, the manga is suggesting that Eru dressing up as a girl to pick up girls is basically fine, and the character is largely framed as sympathetic. Hence, it's not transphobic, precisely because Eru is portrayed positively.

Now, you could argue it's lesbophobic, because the manga is sort of tacitly endorsing a boy pretending to be a girl to pick up girls. However, I think that's pretty ambiguous. If I were to really offer an interpretation, it's notable that Eru has a lot more success getting girls' numbers as a girl than as a guy; normally it would be the reverse, since of course there's far more straight women than lesbians. It seems reasonable to conclude that the real reason is that Eru feels much more comfortable/self-confident as a girl, and it's that charisma that is endearing them to women. Honestly, I suspect the vast majority of girls who gave Eru their number aren't even looking for a date, just a friend, hence why Eru also states they have yet to actually go on a date.

In conclusion, Eru's character is pretty weird and ambiguous and it's unclear what, if any, larger upshot there is to all this. I think it's fair to criticize the manga for not having a clear vision as to what it's doing with its characters. I don't think it's fair to call the manga nothing but nonstop transphobia.

What I mean with “most readers are not trans women and do not care about transmisogyny” is not that one needs to care about transphobic people to enjoy something, if it was for that no one would be able to like anything. The point is that for some this is a reminder on how most view trans fems (most will laugh and don’t see anything bad, even people who are not transphobic) that is why I think SillieHonka comment was like that (though as I said in my response to Zecs, I don’t see she calling anyone transphobic) she was hurt made a angry comment and that’s it. For very specific and personal reasons I hate generalization and “if the shoe fits” but I don’t see any other reason why everyone replied instead of ignoring her. I did that but now I am also here so I am not one to talk lol

Basically what I mean is, everyone will have very different opinions, having arguments is normal, but 4 or 5 posters keep responding to her saying the same thing and like, I think is better to not do that and keep talking about the manga

I'm not going to speculate as to SillieHonoka's motives. I don't think she's a bad person or anything. I just strongly disagree with both her position and the way she argued her position. I think it's fine to express strong disagreements and that is, in fact, what discussion forums are for. I posted because I hadn't seen anyone else make the points I wanted to make.

Kitano herself says that Eru is cheating on the girls, Eru accepts it with a “So what about it?” attitude but then Girly immediately tells Eru that he's awesome and Kitano it the one who is painted as closed-minded (and that's exactly why she panics and wants to use the makeup).

I agree but the upshot of this, if anything, is the manga is asserting that dressing as a girl to pick up girls is totally cool and fine. Which I guess you could argue is lesbophobic (though it's not clear the girls Eru is picking up are lesbians), but it's not transmisogynistic.

I don't even agree or share SillieHonka opinion but even if you analyze the scenes in their own context, there is a larger social context that informs how these jokes are taken (I assume this is what SillieHonka means) and we all know that trans women are not separated from these stereotypes in the minds of the majority (this apply to the balls joke and the dressing as a girl to pick up girls part) these things don't exist in a bubble, most readers are not trans women or people who care about transmisogyny, most probably don’t even know its a word

Like I said, the manga is far from perfect. That one panel SillieHonoka keeps pointing to is certainly in bad taste, if nothing else, and the manga does the typical cagey thing of not clarifying whether Kitano is actually transfem (even though she clearly is). And there are definitely aspects of Eru's character to criticize, as I indicated previously. But castigating the manga as a whole as being nothing but transphobic is unfair, and acting like everyone who enjoys the manga is transphobic is even more unfair. I don't care about some hypothetical transphobic audience member who reads the manga. Such hypothetical readers are totally irrelevant to me and my enjoyment of the manga.

All this appeal to nuance and people are still dodging the whole balls thing. Why am I seeing a panel of panties with balls stretched out over the sides like its the funniest thing ever. Just straight dysphoria bait. It'd be one thing if in context it was a doll being like fuck I popped my tuck (I have all the fire for cis queens that are too on their "dick and balls in dresses/skirts/panties or "meaty tuck" jokes, its pretty obvious it comes from a place of transphobia), but the context is transvestigation, the entitlement to knowing what is inside that article of clothing and the appeal to one bodily standard for what is worn.

SillieHonoka, I think the issue with your interpretations is that you remove individual scenes or aspects of the manga from their full context and present them as fully independent. The context of this (yes, pretty dumb) panel is that both Eru and Girly are flawed, imperfect characters. You can tell because immediately afterward Kitano thinks "now it feels like a boy's school." The absurdity of what Eru and Girly are doing is "the joke." (Edit: And I think it's likely the girl they're talking about isn't the cis girl anyway, which will further demonstrate how they're being dumbasses.)

Is it executed perfectly? Of course not, it's far from a perfect manga. But presenting it as if the joke is targeting trans women is unfair, just like it's unfair for you to argue Eru is a translesbophobic caricature when the character is clearly framed as flawed but sympathetic. And it's extra unfair for you to act like everyone who disagrees with you must not care about transmisogyny.

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The only really spicy stuff in months is 1x1/2 (mother/daughter) and Abnormally Cute Sister (full siscon), plus the Yuri Natsu extras for a series that mostly ended years ago.

I wouldn't even call Abnormally Cute Sister that spicy tbh, since it's played purely for comedy and the endgame ship is clearly the non-incest one.

I missed a lot of discourse here, but my position is: Eru isn't an example of a predatory transbian archetype because the character is clearly framed as sympathetic, even in the previous chapter and certainly in this one. Even if the sympathetic backstory itself is kinda nonsensical lol.

She's evil and that's why she's hot

So Takahashi, a vermian abomination capable of overpowering all but the most unnatural foes, is carrying around a comedically shaped wooden hammer in her schoolgirl uniform?

Sure, why not?

A girl's gotta be prepared!

Does nobody notice all the people going missing at this amusement park????

What a swerve

In an earlier chapter, Itou overhears two classmates talking about a rumor that people go missing inside Edenland.