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RadiosAreObsolete
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joined Mar 6, 2021

The school is not giving you the role you want, but the role you need. That's all.

That's an idea, but does Hanako (or anyone) "need" to be a seductress?

joined Jul 26, 2024

The school is not giving you the role you want, but the role you need. That's all.

That's an idea, but does Hanako (or anyone) "need" to be a seductress?

This is a series about an all girls school being uploaded to dynasty, so clearly.

Though more seriously, having people who can act outside established social dynamics and norms actually is helpful, as otherwise people can become shackled by them or fail to understand how they're limiting their conception of what's possible.

This doesn't mean being a seductress per se (and I think her role is more general than that), but some stereotypical traits of one could be positive in some situations with some people.

Clodsire
joined Jul 4, 2018

art style reminds me of murcielago

4fe5eecd-bb71-4108-8d32-020d4e723c02
joined Oct 3, 2018

The school is not giving you the role you want, but the role you need. That's all.

Even licensed psychotherapists generally require a patient's consent for outstanding treatment methodologies, and I doubt the school is staffed entirely by doctors (though maybe that's a reveal later who knows). They'll also periodically check in to ensure the treatment is actually providing benefit. There's no chance whoever is creating these assignments could know what every one of these students "needs" unless the author wants them to for plot's sake.

I mean, imagine Nanase after receiving this specifically adversarial assignment just doesn't complete it and is failed out. That's a huge new trauma tying right into old trauma for her to carry. It's an awful strategy as far as helping kids grow is concerned.

Clodsire
joined Jul 4, 2018

The school is not giving you the role you want, but the role you need. That's all.

Even licensed psychotherapists generally require a patient's consent for outstanding treatment methodologies, and I doubt the school is staffed entirely by doctors (though maybe that's a reveal later who knows). They'll also periodically check in to ensure the treatment is actually providing benefit. There's no chance whoever is creating these assignments could know what every one of these students "needs" unless the author wants them to for plot's sake.

I mean, imagine Nanase after receiving this specifically adversarial assignment just doesn't complete it and is failed out. That's a huge new trauma tying right into old trauma for her to carry. It's an awful strategy as far as helping kids grow is concerned.

this is all true, but this is why just sit back and enjoy fiction

Images
joined Aug 19, 2018

I don't know why my first thought after this chapter is if Bruce Wayne went to a school that had these roles, how would he handle his first assignment as an affectionist?

Sena
joined Jun 27, 2017

I hate these sorta nonsensical bets as setup for plot development. Even if the plot itself is already nonsensical.

joined Jul 26, 2024

In this case, I think the bet is just cover for the girl's pride. She doesn't want to accept help, so framing it as like a bet or competition means it bothers her less. If they're interacting, will be under the pretense of the bet. That will be less stressful for her than trying to interact as friends while not being sure how to act or what the other person's true intentions are.

The actual bet doesn't matter because either they both win or they both lose, so it's obviously not a real bet if examined for a few seconds. They both should be aware of this.

last edited at Jan 19, 2025 4:19PM

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

Well, now we know why she got that role. Not just as a challenge for herself to overcome, but also to be able to help Nanase with hers - and I don't just mean the challenge given to Nanase by the school, but the underlying reason she feels that her only option is to drop out.

ArtemisOnVtubers
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joined Dec 16, 2021

Fall in love is too hard
Turning on is far more likely

Mistress Trupin
joined Jul 24, 2018

When she made the seduction declaration I imagined her making a pose and being all, I'll show her the power of a gigolette!

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Just a daily reminder that "legal wife" counts as family one can eat with. :-)

When she made the seduction declaration I imagined her making a pose and being all, I'll show her the power of a gigolette!

Hey, I understood that reference!

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