I didn't read the latest chapter yet, I found that for this series it works best if I look at comments first because they're always a better read anyway... but this time they seem very tame and for the most part not focused on what's happening in the chapter so I'm going to guess it's boring :P

The school festival arc is over, so of course the last two chapters have been more calm. The same level of melodrama is probably not coming back for a little while at least.

Her request is a threesome?

New anime trailer out, but it looks like it's been delayed to April which, judging from the ANN article, seems to be due to a change in director (health issues apparently).

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Well, that escalated quickly.

Also, good for Inu-Hima for getting everything cleared up!

But that bit Yori dropped...is veeerrry interesting.

Yessss this is the chapter that was sorely needed to complete Shiho's redemption arc: a good fucking apology!

Glad they talked stuff out and funny how Yori almost hit the mark on what was going on but still missed it by a mile xD. I can happily look forward to Shiho and Aki's date now.

"Have you lime'd her?" sounds a bit kinky. Just me? Okay then.

Yeah that was a simple conversation, as it should have been. Nothing wrong with Hime doing her own thing and having her own work. Figured they'd easily talk it out and they did. Now it's time for Aki to answer Shiho and for the two to finally make things official. Here's hoping for a smooth date, rather than any setbacks. I'm expecting a heartfelt chapter to cap things off between them, unless the date is delayed.

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Wow, people are so easy to forgive... Simple ''I'm sorry'' and suddenly everything's ok eh? Not for me. Give me back chapters she took and then maybe I could at least think of forgetting that this bitcho ever existed...

Oh boy, this chapter really segmented the warped morality this manga is operating under for me.

This is not redemption for Shiho, not for a long shot. She had to be forced to apologize by Hina, and more importantly she states herself that she is apologizing not for being in the wrong, but because there is no reason to hate Yori anymore (as if there was any reason to hate her in the first place). She has not changed, she simply got what she wanted.

Also, while the story at least acknowlegdes some of Shiho's wrongdoings, it continues the trend of other characters simply laughing it off or seeking fault with themselves where there is none. Yori accepting some fault here for simply existing, and the story itself labelling her the cause of the whole thing (when she was merely a catalyst, the cause was Shiho not getting what she wanted) leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

Thank god for the comment that labeled the discussion on plot or writing in this forum "a complete cesspool of negativity that could destroy any positive feelings someone has toward this series", that gave me a good laugh. If your love is so weak it can be destroyed by some criticism, it was shallow and surface-level in the first place.

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Wow, people are so easy to forgive... Simple ''I'm sorry'' and suddenly everything's ok eh? Not for me. Give me back chapters she took and then maybe I could at least think of forgetting that this bitcho ever existed...

I mean speaking in terms of the story and disregarding her affects on readers these past few years(?)...yes sometimes a sincere apology is all that is needed. Like if this was a situation in real life, there isn't really much of anything she can do "to make up for it" aside from acknowledging her wrongs and vowing to not do it again. It's up to the other characters whether or not they wanna remain friends/friendly with her and they are so there's not much left Shiho can actually do for now besides clear the air.

Heck her apology was sorely needed for us readers too because it was getting so bad there were people who actually believed Shiho did nothing wrong at all and was in the RIGHT for how she was acting! It was so nice to see the author properly acknowledge how petty she was being and not brush it aside. I think Shiho still needs to properly apologize to Aki and SSGirls for how she was acting, but for now I'm satisfied with where this is going.

Oh boy, this chapter really segmented the warped morality this manga is operating under for me.

Your comment was posted before I finished typing mine so I'm slightly editing.

You bring up a lot of good points that I missed about the apology. I'm still happy with what was shown in this chapter, but I agree it hasn't addressed everything and possibly never will. I think I also didn't blink about the flaws because I'm so used to this sort of brushing aside wrongs and characters saying stuff like "oh it's ok we should've known this so we were the ones that were wrong!" in Japanese media that I just sigh and move on because my expectations on how well they handle these types of issues are on the floor.

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Pfffft lol, people really mad about a character having development and idk who's grandma Shiho killed so her redemption needs a Zuko treatment.

Anyways they're 16 and in love

I’m open to vigorous discussion.

Too late for that, I think everyone is worn down by now, you have previous 90 pages to read through if you're up for that.

I didn't read the latest chapter yet, I found that for this series it works best if I look at comments first because they're always a better read anyway... but this time they seem very tame and for the most part not focused on what's happening in the chapter so I'm going to guess it's boring :P

ooo a follower of reading the comments because they are more interesting that the story! NICE !!!

Well we got an apology, except it was to Yori and not to Aki, who is absolutely the one most deserving of one. Honestly, the fact that up until now, not even in her inner thoughts have we seen shiho feel any remorse for what shes put aki through (nevermind a voiced apology) makes their romantic development pretty off-putting.

Pfffft lol, people really mad about a character having development and idk who's grandma Shiho killed so her redemption needs a Zuko treatment.

Anyways they're 16 and in love

such a week sauce excuse! lol please stop with the excuses!

Well we got an apology, except it was to Yori and not to Aki, who is absolutely the one most deserving of one. Honestly, the fact that up until now, not even in her inner thoughts have we seen shiho feel any remorse for what shes put aki through (nevermind a voiced apology) makes their romantic development pretty off-putting.

the manga writing for this drama really starts to show the bad side, IF they get in an relationship right after she BEARLY apologises! ugh can’t wait to get over her pathetic drama T^T

Pfffft lol, people really mad about a character having development and idk who's grandma Shiho killed so her redemption needs a Zuko treatment.

Anyways they're 16 and in love

such a week sauce excuse! lol please stop with the excuses!

What excuses? Shiho is a fxcked up character n she knows it, author knows it, Shiho defenders knows it. But people are going to complain regardless even if she gets the besto of the bestos redemptions arcs ever.

She did bad things? Yeah. Wasn't that serious? Nope, a teenager cliché drama. Apologies were need it apologies are being given.
But here we are in another silly Shiho debate.

why is the author making her issue a fake apology this late in the story?

my happiness when a new chapter comes out⬆️⬆️⬆️

Go Aki gooooo

Oh boy, this chapter really segmented the warped morality this manga is operating under for me.

Your comment was posted before I finished typing mine so I'm slightly editing.

You bring up a lot of good points that I missed about the apology. I'm still happy with what was shown in this chapter, but I agree it hasn't addressed everything and possibly never will. I think I also didn't blink about the flaws because I'm so used to this sort of brushing aside wrongs and characters saying stuff like "oh it's ok we should've known this so we were the ones that were wrong!" in Japanese media that I just sigh and move on because my expectations on how well they handle these types of issues are on the floor.

Don't get me wrong, I see it as a positive that an apology happened at all, but it was so limp-wristed it barely counts as one. The fact that Hina was the one that had to use her favor to get Shiho to talk to Yori at all, is worse enough, but what I missed to comment the first time is that the motivation for Shiho is still self-serving: She wants Hina to keep being her manager. So this apology is not happening for Yori's sake, or god forbid a feeling of regret, but simply to get something out of it.

It is kinda amazing that Shiho is such a consistently written thoroughly selfish character without the story noticing it. Like, for Shiho to be written that way at every opportunity, the author has to know what she is doing, right? But then why is that never brought up within the story? That contrast is simply baffling. It has been stated here since the beginning of this arc that Shiho does not feel that she fits with the rest of the characters, and that feeling only got stronger over time. These interactions are like Heather Chandler getting isekaied into the Carebears universe.

So while I still enjoy this manga, albeit for other reasons than the author intended propably, I don't have high hopes for the quality ticking up again. For me, I would want to see real growth from Shiho after all this time we spent with her. That would mean Aki not being romatically interested in her, and Shiho accepting this and keep being friends with her. Given that Aki asked her out on a date, I highly doubt it is gonna go this route, unless Shiho's shittyness is contagious and Aki is deliberately messing with her. And as highly cathartic as that would be, it would ruin Aki's character even more.

Aki what youre doing
Dont mess with shiho heart again...

But that bit Yori dropped...is veeerrry interesting.

Yeah I'm thinking the girls will collaborate together musically, or she'll be called on to help with Aki. Really interested in seeing what new forms the groups take now. I feel like they'll mix in some unexpected ways (depending on how much more we have left).

Aki what you're doing. Dont mess with shiho heart again...

She didn't really mess with Shiho's heart before, at least not intentionally. Here though, Aki and Shiho just need to figure their feelings out. They haven't had an actual discussion since the event and her asking for a date is a good hint that she's taking both of their feelings seriously. Last chapter she wondered what "that was all about." Of course Aki's, blushing face implied that she knows the answer (and likes the answer) but is in a bit of denial or wants certain clarification before she's honest with her feelings. She just needs to talk with Shiho and I imagine that's what they'll do on their date. They both just seem to have the jitters and awkwardness that can come with the moving from friendship to romance. What does a romantic relationship between them look like? They're both asking that question.

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i can't believe shiho was introduced in volume 3 and we're only now, 6 volumes later, getting a really weak conclusion to her "arc" and nothing has significantly changed about her character. everything up through her apology has all been completely self-serving, which in and of itself can be interesting, but it was handled so poorly here that it ends up being frustrating. obviously she's a teenager and that's just how some kids are but the fact that everyone else puts up with her to the degree they do is not believable in the slightest. and it wouldn't be so bad if there was a healthy dose of other stuff going on and there was more of a balance of plot points and character arcs but everything has revolved around shiho for 6 volumes straight and she's just a black hole of misery the whole time. and yes i am a hater by nature and i will continue to criticize this series because i loved it so much in the beginning and it drives me crazy seeing its continued self-drestruction.

Ok but seriously though,

I didn't expect Shiho to bring such a large bento everyday what, that was a funny detail.

Most of you guys are arguing and here i am just enjoying the manga peacefully