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Yurinium_replenished
joined Jan 27, 2021

Yeah, probably this backstory should've been narrated earlier since pretty much all of us hate Hiroko and have made up our mind on the "she only rejected Ayaka to protect her public persona" plot line

I disagree. Partly, because it has left people wondering why Hiroko goes to such lengths to dismiss Ayaka's very open pursuit of her, and partly, well... the manga is called "Ayaka is in Love with Hiroko", i.e. Ayaka is the pov character for most of the series and it's mainly about her struggle to get Hiroko to like her back.

Though it would be a neat idea to see a romantic comedy play out from the perspective of the love interest and not the one who fell for them first.

EDIT: I also wonder how many people would see Ayaka as "pushy" and claim "she's not respecting boundaries", if the story was from Hiroko's pov and we were introduced to her emotional baggage first.

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EDIT: I also wonder how many people would see Ayaka as "pushy" and claim "she's not respecting boundaries", if the story was from Hiroko's pov and we were introduced to her emotional baggage first.

Oh really interesting thought experiment. A lot, most likely. It's always an interesting part of the story writing process: deciding where to start the story, who to follow and how that will affect the audience. That's a large part of the fun. With some slight alterations we could have a sizable section of the audience ship Hiroko with Risa too, if it started as you suggest. Ayaka is more fun though and I don't think Sal wanted the series' foundation to be too dour.

last edited at Jun 22, 2023 1:16PM

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joined Oct 20, 2017

Another banger chapter. Let Sal Jiang cook!

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

Though it would be a neat idea to see a romantic comedy play out from the perspective of the love interest and not the one who fell for them first.

That sounds like a rather normal idea.

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joined Oct 4, 2018

The power of badonkas powered by pudding physics is undoubtedly destructive

Daremo from Parts Unknown
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joined May 6, 2022

They didn't say "comment". They said "justify yourself or criticize others". Because there's nothing to justify or criticize in your fictional tastes. You need to work on those reading skills. Work on that pointless aggressivity, too.
I don't know what it is with this manga that makes some people lash madly in all directions.

No, but they did say commenters and "justify yourself or criticize others" is something that, i suspect, happens entirely in those "comments". So i think my reading skills are just fine actully lol.

Aaand it's confirmed: this guy doesn't understand English. Of all the pointless things mentioned, the most pointless one is talking to him.

We already had Alternative Math to teach us that 2 + 2 = 22 if you only believe it, now we have Alternative English to teach us that syntax doesn't matter, words mean what you want them to mean and nobody is ever wrong.

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Though it would be a neat idea to see a romantic comedy play out from the perspective of the love interest and not the one who fell for them first.

That sounds like a rather normal idea.

Perhaps this one as well. Hinoka fell first, indeed.

Model and Plain Manager is an example. That just ended here. That one doesn't shift perspectives at all.

last edited at Jun 22, 2023 6:35PM

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joined Nov 12, 2020

As the once wise words from "Strike Witches : The Witches Of Africa" have said :

Risa too now receives them,how long overdue for her.

joined Feb 22, 2023

girl...

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joined Apr 18, 2023

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joined Aug 14, 2020

Well. I guess there's no running from it now huh?

Also I've been in Hiroko's corner since chapter 1, y'all just coming around to her now are a buncha posers. Y'all attitudes about her switched up real quick when you learned about her emotional baggage.

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joined Oct 25, 2022

Ayaka really going for broke! This chapter and the next were the highlight of the series for me when I read the raws. I'm really curious to see what other people think.

Khancrop
joined Feb 18, 2013

Ayaka, you're not supposed to pick up the idiot ball of your own volition. щ(゚Д゚щ)

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joined Sep 10, 2022

Haha. Ayaka never gives up. And yeah, Risa, friendships can be powerful too. It's not girlfriend or nothing. I do feel bad for Hiroko here, though. She's about to have an absolute panic attack. Hopefully nothing bad comes from the outburst but stuff like this is exactly why she was worried about telling Ayaka in the first place. Ayaka now knows what the goal is and she's a pitbull. Hiroko doesn't stand a chance but she'll definitely resist.

last edited at Jun 23, 2023 12:28PM

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joined Mar 8, 2014

Wha... What's going on O_o this isn't... what's supposed to be happening lol

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joined Feb 11, 2018

Ayaka was even more sassy that I though. Shots fired across the office...

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joined Feb 16, 2018

Damn, I love this girl. She found her calling in life and she's going to achieve it or die trying. Absolute mad lass.

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joined Dec 1, 2022

Ayaka is being very inconsiderate and pushy. Public confessions are kind of awful because they put societal pressure onto the receiver and involve bystanders in drama.
She could come out by herself to prove her point but now rumours are going to affect Hiroko, so she went and landed her in the hot water.
Besides, does she think that Ayaka would immediately get together with her if her baggage was gotten rid of? We know that yes, that is probably the case, but for her it is not certain.

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joined Jun 27, 2017

I expected her to do a public coming out, to show it won't do anything bad; this was a weird development ...
... but I guess that's what the manga is all about ;)

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LMAO atta girl

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Ayaka is being very inconsiderate and pushy. Public confessions are kind of awful because they put societal pressure onto the receiver and involve bystanders in drama.
She could come out by herself to prove her point but now rumours are going to affect Hiroko, so she went and landed her in the hot water.
Besides, does she think that Ayaka would immediately get together with her if her baggage was gotten rid of? We know that yes, that is probably the case, but for her it is not certain.

yeah I agree to be honest... I'm not sure I like this development, it's so over the top... I hope it backfires lol...

joined Oct 1, 2022

haha I personally don't like public confessions. If it were me, I don't know how I would react, firstly because people at work don't have to know about my private life. But this is a manga xd

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Wow, I thought Ayaka would declare she was a lesbian, that I think would had been hmm more appropriate, but to involve Hiroko too, it feels like sort of a public outing other people..not cool. I'd never talk to her again

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Wow, I thought Ayaka would declare she was a lesbian, that I think would had been hmm more appropriate, but to involve Hiroko too, it feels like sort of a public outing other people..not cool. I'd never talk to her again

I could see that, yeah; though, she didn't really out Hiroko here. She only confessed her crush, and Hiroko still has an out of she wants it. People crush on their senpai's all the time. So this was basically that declaration of her being a lesbian that you mentioned, but with some added Ayaka flair.

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